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@Mahdi Raza
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I was about to comment the proof-related to combinations after I saw Percy's proof, but then I saw you writing this (sad noises) LOL. I will write the proof-related to permutations then.
I assume the reader knows, about permutations and a little about factorials.
The formula for no. of permutations is nPk=P(n,k)=(n−k)!n! or basically if we take any k objects from n objects at a time, then how many ways can the k objects be arranged is the number of permutations.
So, if we take n objects from n objects and ask for the number of ways we can arrange them, basically we are asking how many ways can all the n objects be arranged which by a primary definition of factorials is n! So using permutations we can write as,
A common-sensical(Yeah, I just invented that word, deal with it) approach would be that 0! is 0 multiplied 0 times because 1 is greater than 0. 0 multiplied 0 times is 00, aka 1 :) @SRIJAN Singh@Siddharth Chakravarty
What do you even mean? I would suggest the common-sensical way, Lol that 0! Means how many ways can we arrange 0 objects which should be 1 i.e there is no way or to do nothing.
n!=n(n−1)(n−2)…1 or n! is product of all numbers less than n and greater than 1. There are 0 ways to reach 1 from 0 like that 0!=00=1. THis is in a vague sense @Siddharth Chakravarty
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Did you just defy yourself because you said product of all number less than n and greater than 1, and 0 has no number less than it which is greater than 1? Basically the factorial notation was brought into due to permutations and combinations as I said in the comment.
What's with the notifications? I got like 10 of them in this note, leading nowhere, are you guys sending and deleting comments @Siddharth Chakravarty and @SRIJAN Singh ????
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yah i also if i hover to notification button and then click ,if i get bore scrolling comments than CLICK DISMISS ALL LOL USED IF many times
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Note: n!=Γ(n+1)=∫0∞tne−tdt
0!=Γ(1)=∫0∞t0e−tdt=∫0∞e−tdt=−e−t∣∣∣∣0∞=−e−∞−(−e0)=0+1=1
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Thanks for explanation.
@Mahdi Raza
0! = 1 :
1! = 1
2! = 1!*2
2! = 2
3! = 2!*3
3! = 6
4! = 3!*4
4! = 24
turn this around:
4! = 24
3! = 4!/4
3! = 6
2! = 3!/3
2! = 2
1! = 2!/2
1! = 1
0! = 1!/1
0! = 1
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Yeah, same reason!
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Its the only proof I know for 0! @Mahdi Raza, do you know any others?
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(0n). The ways of choosing 0 objects from a group of n objects is 1. Hence:
There was one related to(0n)10!0!=(n−0)!0!n!=n!0!n!=n!n!=1
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@Mahdi Raza, Thanks :)
Cool@Percy Jackson nice
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Thanks :)
I assume the reader knows, about permutations and a little about factorials.
The formula for no. of permutations is nPk=P(n,k)=(n−k)!n! or basically if we take any k objects from n objects at a time, then how many ways can the k objects be arranged is the number of permutations.
So, if we take n objects from n objects and ask for the number of ways we can arrange them, basically we are asking how many ways can all the n objects be arranged which by a primary definition of factorials is n! So using permutations we can write as,
n!=(n−n)!n!
Thus, n!=0!n!
By simplifying, we get 0!=1.
A common-sensical(Yeah, I just invented that word, deal with it) approach would be that 0! is 0 multiplied 0 times because 1 is greater than 0. 0 multiplied 0 times is 00, aka 1 :) @SRIJAN Singh @Siddharth Chakravarty
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What do you even mean? I would suggest the common-sensical way, Lol that 0! Means how many ways can we arrange 0 objects which should be 1 i.e there is no way or to do nothing.
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n!=n(n−1)(n−2)…1 or n! is product of all numbers less than n and greater than 1. There are 0 ways to reach 1 from 0 like that 0!=00=1. THis is in a vague sense @Siddharth Chakravarty
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For a (possibly) more intuitive explanation, recall that n! may be interpreted as the number of ways to arrange n distinct objects in a line.
For example, 2!=2 and we can arrange □ and ■ in 2 ways: □■ and ■□.
1!=1, and there is one way to arrange the single item ■, like this: ■.
So 0! is the number of ways to arrange nothing. There is one way to arrange nothing in a line, like this:
So 0!=1, though I admit that the interpretation of arranging "nothing" is a little philosophical.
What's with the notifications? I got like 10 of them in this note, leading nowhere, are you guys sending and deleting comments @Siddharth Chakravarty and @SRIJAN Singh ????
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i got 34 comments a day
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did it ever go to 100+? I left brilliant for one day, I had 100+ notifications :)
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@Yajat Shamji.do this
@Mahdi Raza. do this
@Siddharth Chakravarty @SRIJAN Singh -
-_- Why are you making so many notifications and deleting your comments?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
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To trouble you. LOL :) Actually, I am not deleting @SRIJAN Singh did, he had the main comment.
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Unsubscribe :)
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I think to do the same, but I am not doing, incase somebody comments something useful, notifications don’t worry much
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Why am I still getting notifications?
I already Unsubbed this note.........
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@Percy Jackson why are you making drawings of fullstop lol
@Siddharth Chakravarty,@Percy Jackson because siddharth had given the answers that was asked by me
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Why delete comments then????????????????????????????????????????????
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i asked some of the questions like how was your naest exam and ask him to do my latest problems
@Percy Jackson,@Siddharth Chakravarty.do this
n! is the number of ways you can order a set with n elements, and the only way to order an empty set (with 0 elements) is the empty set {} itself.
...hi @SRIJAN Singh, you actually look pissed
What is going on with you both (referring to NEED TO NOTIFY THE STAFF? COMMENT BELOW)
If you feel this comment is offensive, I will delete this comment, k?
I just wanna know what's happening between you and Andrew (yes, that is his name...)
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nothin much he's tryin to become big daddy and treats me like i m his target idk why?