How about we think deep about the rationals and irrationals?

Suppose one chooses any of the following types of intervals

  • \([a,b]\),

  • [a,b)[a,b),

  • (a,b)(a,b)

  • (a,b](a,b]

  • (,)(-\infty,\infty)

in  R\ \mathbb{R} where aa and bb can be very arbitrarily close to each other but not equal to each other. Can one always find two irrationals pp and qq within any chosen domain such that p+qp+q or pqp-q is rational?


As an example, let us consider the interval (1,3)(-1,3), one can find the two irrationals 21\sqrt{2}-1 and 2+1\sqrt{2}+1 within this interval that give a difference of 22 which is rational. Also one can find the irrationals 121- \sqrt{2} and 2+1\sqrt{2}+1 whose sum gives 22, a rational again.

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Note by Tapas Mazumdar
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For any interval (a,b)(a,b) of length (ba)(b-a) matters where so it is convenient to take a,b>0a,b\gt 0 . Now choose a rational cc such that a<c<ba<c<b we want to find another d(a,b)d\in(a,b) such that both of c+dc+\sqrt{d} and cdc-\sqrt{d} belong to (a,b)(a,b). It's clear that by adding a d\sqrt{d} with cc won't make c+dbc+\sqrt{d}\not\gt b which happens only if d<bc\sqrt{d}\lt b-c ,similarly for cd>ac-\sqrt{d}\gt a we must have d<ca\sqrt{d}\lt c-a . It is sufficient to find an dd satisfying d<min{bc,ca}=bab+a2c2\sqrt{d}\lt {\rm min} \{b-c,c-a\}=\dfrac{|b-a|-|b+a-2c|}{2} so that there are two irrationals c±dc\pm\sqrt{d} which add upto a rational. SImilar reasoning for dd produces a lower bound for dd such that we can find a dd satisfying ab+a+b2c2<d<bab+a2c2\dfrac{|a-b|+|a+b-2c|}{2}\lt \sqrt{d}\lt \dfrac{|b-a|-|b+a-2c|}{2}. Even by choosing cc such that a2<c<b2\dfrac{a}{2}\lt c\lt \dfrac{b}{2} it can be achieved that the sum of the two irrationals also will lie in (a,b)(a,b) that is a<(c+d)+(cd)<ba\lt (c+\sqrt{d})+(c-\sqrt{d}) \lt b.

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 4 years, 1 month ago
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