Something that I see a lot at math competitions or on Brilliant is a problem asking to find the value of x+x+x+… for x= some value. I'm going to talk about how to solve that "nested radical" as well as "nested" fractions.
First I'm going to talk about how to solve a problem such as finding the value of 6+6+6+…. Let k=6+6+6+…. You may notice that you are adding k to 6 and taking the square root of this. I'll demonstrate this with some parentheses.
6+6+6+…=6+(6+6+…)=6+(6+6+…)=…
For simplicity, we're just going to use 6+6+6+…=6+(6+6+…). You may notice that this is the same thing as saying that k=6+k. Let's try solving that.
kk2k2−k−6(k−3)(k+2)k=3 or k=−2=6+k=6+k=0=0
We can eliminate the k=−2 solution because the nested radical obviously is non-negative. Thus, we can say that 6+6+6+…=3.
Now we can use a similar line of logic to find a general form for x+x+x+…. Let that equal y. We will make use of the same procedure, but using the quadratic formula to solve for y.yyy2y2−y−xy=x+x+x+…=x+y=x+y=0=21±1+4x
Since we are dealing with real numbers, the value under the radical cannot be negative (except for x=0.) Thus, we can say that x+x+x+…=21+1+4x.
Now let's use the same logic to derive a formula for nested fractions of the form a+a+⋱11 as well as continued fractions where the numerator is not necessarily 1.
First, the obligatory demonstration of such a fraction.
2+2+⋱11kk2+2kk2+2k−1kk=2+(2+⋱1)1=2+k1=1=0=2−2±4+4=−1±2
Again, we can throw out the negative solution and say that 2+2+⋱11=−1+2.
Moving on, we can derive a general formula for finding x+x+⋱cc, allowing this expression to be equal to y.
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3.Let n+n+⋯=x.Then we can write it as n+x=x as you have just shown.Now solving:
n+x=x2x2−x−n=0x=2(1)−1±(−1)2−4(1)(−n)x=2−1±4n+1
As the nested radical is positive,so we discard the negative square root.And we are left with:
x=2−1+4n+1
By observation we conclude that 4n+1 must be a perfect square odd number.That's as far as I got.Perhaps someone could complete this.
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Some more nested radicals
x+x−x+…=21+4x−3
x−x+x−…=2−1+4x−3
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How does one obtain these formulaes ?
If you want to practice some problems on Nested Radicals ,
you may refer to my set Nested Radicals
Thanks dude, I'll keep your tips it in mind while solving such questions ⌣¨
This is excellent. Thanks Trevor.
3.Let n+n+⋯=x.Then we can write it as n+x=x as you have just shown.Now solving: n+x=x2x2−x−n=0x=2(1)−1±(−1)2−4(1)(−n)x=2−1±4n+1 As the nested radical is positive,so we discard the negative square root.And we are left with: x=2−1+4n+1 By observation we conclude that 4n+1 must be a perfect square odd number.That's as far as I got.Perhaps someone could complete this.
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My workings are similar to yours. I think your application of the quadratic equation is wrong though. If I am mistaken please correct me!
x = [1 +sqrt(1+4n)] / 2
x is an integer when 1 + 4n is a perfect square (and positive). 1 + 4n is an odd perfect square, therefore its square root is an odd integer.
Let (y + 1)^2 = 1 + 4n y^2 + 2y + 1 = 1+ 4n 4n = y^2 + 2y n = [y^2 + 2y] / 4 = y^2/4 + y/2 y is an even integer.
Thus n is an integer, whereby for all even integers y: n = (y^2)/4 + y/2
Thank you :)