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I think everyone is born with the capacity to be genius. On the other hand, I assure we can say that "practice" takes to the perfection, because many geniuses developted their gift in childhood ( baroque musicians, Kasparov, etc). But even though geniuses spent many hours praticing, almost always there is a factor that is decisive for the development of their talent. A good example is Amadeus Mozart, one of the most famous musicians of all time, who got important factors which made him a incredible musician:
he started at the age of 4
his father was a music professor
he had a really harsh musical training
However, be a genius, in my opinion, is almost a choice of the destiny. There cases where genius rise in difficult situations:
Beethoven's mother had STD and she had a risky pregnancy
Einstein was awful in math and did nothing prominent until his first scientific work
Hawking got really involved with science after a life reflection at college
Indeed we have infinite variables that can influentiate us, we also have cases that geniality simple comes to mind:
Gauss discovered a fast solution for the problem: 1+2+3...+100. At the age of 9 !
Newton had a glimpse and wrote the Universal Gravitation law
McCartney dreamt the melody of Yesterday ( I don't know if he's really considered a real genius at all, but he's quite talented)
Conclusion: Practice can lead you to "perfection", but there is much more things that make a genius a real genius, despite the technical hability. So you can be trained to be skilled and very inteligent, but if you don't develop that special "gift" by yourself, it's impossible to be a genius. Therefore: you don't choose geniality, it chooses you.
Sorry dude. I've heard the two parts of the mith (he's flawless and he's awful) but I actually did not know what was true. Whereas he have mastered calculus in a young age, he often asked his 1st wife for help in his calculations, when he worked on his theories.
The phrase "born genius" is deceptive. Although genes definitely play a role in intelligence, genius is also the result of a tremendous amount of work.
One of the most stubborn brain myths is that we're all stuck at the intelligence level we were born with, when actually IQ can change and be improved with effort. Many of our greatest artists and scientists demonstrated brilliance only after honing their craft through thousands of hours of practice and study.
Scott Barry Kaufman writes on The Creativity Post:
Genius involves figuring out who you are, and owning yourself. It's about amplifying your best traits and compensating for the rest. Geniuses grab life by the horns, and persevere amidst setbacks. They take control of their lives, instead of waiting for others to open up doors. In this very important sense, greatness is completely, utterly, made.
It's a great reminder that what matters most is the deliberate practice we put into our work.
Actually Hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard.....for developing atalent u fiorst need to develop a interest.Actaully genius is nothing. for example i can give u a mathematical equation invlving this.....
GENIUS=INTEREST+ HARD WORK .In STEM subjects hard work is thinking and imagination .In maths its involves practice and imagination and in sports it involve spractice.So i think my equation is correct
This is such a good topic for discussion! Three things:
1. I personally think it's dependent on what you're a genius at. An idea brought up in Paul Hoffman's biography of Paul Erdos, "The Man Who Loved Only Numbers", is that it's a bit easier to be a math or music genius than a science or writing genius. Math is simple for young children to understand, because its big ideas (where research is being done) don't require the level of background knowledge that science does. Anyone can hum a unique, beautiful melody, but it takes a lot of work for a child to learn to read and write.
2. "practice makes man perfect" GENIUSES AREN'T PERFECT!!!!! We just see them that way because their mistakes are not as public as their brilliant ideas. They learn from their mistakes, just like the rest of us do.
3. as a girl on this website, I am quite sure women can be smart, present company included :)
No one is born a genius. Everyone has the potential to excel, but only those who put in an extreme amount of practice and dedication can become close to what we perceive as a "genius." Does anyone honestly believe that any of the Member of The U.S.A or the Republic of China's IMO Teams became good overnight? Definitely not. We are all born the same, with the same amount of capacity to learn and excel. But as I stated earlier, it is only those who truly take the time and effort to dedicate themselves that become even close to what we consider a "genius."
Then my question is , we have seen many cases like that of mozart, Gauss who started contributing at their small age, then I dont think that at that age they would have worked so hard, or practice whole day, bcoz a small boy dont have capacity to work many hours.Then how they did big inventions....
Through math competitions and practices in the US, I have met a few very young and extraordinary people. What they all had in common was an intensity and concentration that is rare at any age. They did indeed think about math and numbers all day. One little boy who was acing upper division college math courses at the age of 8 dreamt up problems even while he slept and would work them out in the morning when he awoke. You should google the idea "rage to master" that seems characteristic of these little ones who achieve so much so quickly.
I would say yes. Some people are born as genius's (geni? geniuss?). However, if they do not exercise their brain, they will lose that edge. Simply put, if you are a prodigy at birth, but do not train, you will 'lose' your intelligence. Five years on, you'd be a genius, ten years on, talented, and by the age of fifteen or twenty, you'd be about normal. In my case, I was born with a brain in the top few percentile, but I noticed that if I do not read often, or truly think hard about subjects, I would literally feel my brain go duller. Because I repeat multiplication exercises in my head, I am very strong at that. My division is not on the same level, because I don't practice. Ultimately, a genius can be born into this world, but to stay as they are they must train.
well, first of all, I don't think anyone can possibly be perfect. As for whether anyone by born genius or through practice, it really depends on how you define the word genius. For some it means higher IQ (I remember there is a organization open to geniuses, and their standard is 140 in IQ, or something else), or it can be unusual gifts in certain areas (most commonly music, numbers or painting or drawing). There have been debates as whether people who are most talented in one area but lack considerable skills in others should be considered geniuses. It all depends on what you think genius really means. If you agree that someone who have accomplished great things should be considered a genius (and as a matter of fact there are a number of those people), sure, go ahead. But DO remember that different people think differently, and that while others will probably not agree with the idea, it's okay to listen to different opinions and have an open mind.
By the way, I have to admit that I consider genius to be those born with special talents, whether or not they are especially weak in other areas. Sorry if it isn't what you believe.
I surely can say that Practice makes a man perfect....
we can be genius by practicing....the intensity of that practice is based on the family's brain power of thinking..
one can easily gain intelligence who have a good family background..
one may take some more time with respect to another..
the family heritage for brain is helpful....we measure intelligency by his or her ability to think faster than others..
i think everyone have their own intelligence which they should reveal by hard work .
every one has their own pace of reading and understanding we cant underestimate anyone just looking at them.
Genius means a person who has much idea or 'intelligence' for a particular subject that he can solve any "problems" or I shall say questions on that subject and is expert in it.It may be maths,music,dance or even sports! But that capability for the subject may be had by the person by birth. Other people who have an interest in the subject but are not born genius can also become master in it by practice as practice opens the mind of the person in that subject .In other words by practising his proportion of brain used for that activity will increase than a normal person and thus he will excel in that activity or subject even if he is not born for that and does not have an extraordinary mind for that activity or subject by birth.So, interest as I belief acts as a torch in a dark hotel whose light's went off and practice and hard work are the keys for our room.
Katie O., I don't think that this was intended to be sexist. Anyway.
I think some people are prodigies, which means that they have genetics that allow them to easily become "genius" at a young age. If these people are in an at least decent environment, they will probably study enough to become geniuses without pressure from parents, and seem to be naturals at around four.
Now this doesn't mean not everyone can be a genius- though I'm not a prodigy, and would like to be a genius, so I might be biased- but it just means it would probably be very, very hard to be a genius if you didn't start from a young age with favorable genes. But possible.
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I think everyone is born with the capacity to be genius. On the other hand, I assure we can say that "practice" takes to the perfection, because many geniuses developted their gift in childhood ( baroque musicians, Kasparov, etc). But even though geniuses spent many hours praticing, almost always there is a factor that is decisive for the development of their talent. A good example is Amadeus Mozart, one of the most famous musicians of all time, who got important factors which made him a incredible musician:
However, be a genius, in my opinion, is almost a choice of the destiny. There cases where genius rise in difficult situations:
Indeed we have infinite variables that can influentiate us, we also have cases that geniality simple comes to mind:
Conclusion: Practice can lead you to "perfection", but there is much more things that make a genius a real genius, despite the technical hability. So you can be trained to be skilled and very inteligent, but if you don't develop that special "gift" by yourself, it's impossible to be a genius. Therefore: you don't choose geniality, it chooses you.
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Einstein wasn't awful at math. See: http://goo.gl/2dHfcz
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Sorry dude. I've heard the two parts of the mith (he's flawless and he's awful) but I actually did not know what was true. Whereas he have mastered calculus in a young age, he often asked his 1st wife for help in his calculations, when he worked on his theories.
The fact about Hawking and Einstein is completely wrong.
Practice makes perfect!
The phrase "born genius" is deceptive. Although genes definitely play a role in intelligence, genius is also the result of a tremendous amount of work. One of the most stubborn brain myths is that we're all stuck at the intelligence level we were born with, when actually IQ can change and be improved with effort. Many of our greatest artists and scientists demonstrated brilliance only after honing their craft through thousands of hours of practice and study.
Scott Barry Kaufman writes on The Creativity Post:
Genius involves figuring out who you are, and owning yourself. It's about amplifying your best traits and compensating for the rest. Geniuses grab life by the horns, and persevere amidst setbacks. They take control of their lives, instead of waiting for others to open up doors. In this very important sense, greatness is completely, utterly, made.
It's a great reminder that what matters most is the deliberate practice we put into our work.
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Great words Akshat!
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Thanks, Aditya!
Actually Hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard.....for developing atalent u fiorst need to develop a interest.Actaully genius is nothing. for example i can give u a mathematical equation invlving this..... GENIUS=INTEREST+ HARD WORK .In STEM subjects hard work is thinking and imagination .In maths its involves practice and imagination and in sports it involve spractice.So i think my equation is correct
This is such a good topic for discussion! Three things: 1. I personally think it's dependent on what you're a genius at. An idea brought up in Paul Hoffman's biography of Paul Erdos, "The Man Who Loved Only Numbers", is that it's a bit easier to be a math or music genius than a science or writing genius. Math is simple for young children to understand, because its big ideas (where research is being done) don't require the level of background knowledge that science does. Anyone can hum a unique, beautiful melody, but it takes a lot of work for a child to learn to read and write. 2. "practice makes man perfect" GENIUSES AREN'T PERFECT!!!!! We just see them that way because their mistakes are not as public as their brilliant ideas. They learn from their mistakes, just like the rest of us do. 3. as a girl on this website, I am quite sure women can be smart, present company included :)
No one is born a genius. Everyone has the potential to excel, but only those who put in an extreme amount of practice and dedication can become close to what we perceive as a "genius." Does anyone honestly believe that any of the Member of The U.S.A or the Republic of China's IMO Teams became good overnight? Definitely not. We are all born the same, with the same amount of capacity to learn and excel. But as I stated earlier, it is only those who truly take the time and effort to dedicate themselves that become even close to what we consider a "genius."
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Who said that? "That's racist statement" It makes women perfect too!! :D
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Then my question is , we have seen many cases like that of mozart, Gauss who started contributing at their small age, then I dont think that at that age they would have worked so hard, or practice whole day, bcoz a small boy dont have capacity to work many hours.Then how they did big inventions....
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Through math competitions and practices in the US, I have met a few very young and extraordinary people. What they all had in common was an intensity and concentration that is rare at any age. They did indeed think about math and numbers all day. One little boy who was acing upper division college math courses at the age of 8 dreamt up problems even while he slept and would work them out in the morning when he awoke. You should google the idea "rage to master" that seems characteristic of these little ones who achieve so much so quickly.
I would say yes. Some people are born as genius's (geni? geniuss?). However, if they do not exercise their brain, they will lose that edge. Simply put, if you are a prodigy at birth, but do not train, you will 'lose' your intelligence. Five years on, you'd be a genius, ten years on, talented, and by the age of fifteen or twenty, you'd be about normal. In my case, I was born with a brain in the top few percentile, but I noticed that if I do not read often, or truly think hard about subjects, I would literally feel my brain go duller. Because I repeat multiplication exercises in my head, I am very strong at that. My division is not on the same level, because I don't practice. Ultimately, a genius can be born into this world, but to stay as they are they must train.
well, first of all, I don't think anyone can possibly be perfect. As for whether anyone by born genius or through practice, it really depends on how you define the word genius. For some it means higher IQ (I remember there is a organization open to geniuses, and their standard is 140 in IQ, or something else), or it can be unusual gifts in certain areas (most commonly music, numbers or painting or drawing). There have been debates as whether people who are most talented in one area but lack considerable skills in others should be considered geniuses. It all depends on what you think genius really means. If you agree that someone who have accomplished great things should be considered a genius (and as a matter of fact there are a number of those people), sure, go ahead. But DO remember that different people think differently, and that while others will probably not agree with the idea, it's okay to listen to different opinions and have an open mind. By the way, I have to admit that I consider genius to be those born with special talents, whether or not they are especially weak in other areas. Sorry if it isn't what you believe.
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no one born genius.Every man become perfect with practice.
I surely can say that Practice makes a man perfect.... we can be genius by practicing....the intensity of that practice is based on the family's brain power of thinking.. one can easily gain intelligence who have a good family background.. one may take some more time with respect to another.. the family heritage for brain is helpful....we measure intelligency by his or her ability to think faster than others..
i think everyone have their own intelligence which they should reveal by hard work . every one has their own pace of reading and understanding we cant underestimate anyone just looking at them.
Genius means a person who has much idea or 'intelligence' for a particular subject that he can solve any "problems" or I shall say questions on that subject and is expert in it.It may be maths,music,dance or even sports! But that capability for the subject may be had by the person by birth. Other people who have an interest in the subject but are not born genius can also become master in it by practice as practice opens the mind of the person in that subject .In other words by practising his proportion of brain used for that activity will increase than a normal person and thus he will excel in that activity or subject even if he is not born for that and does not have an extraordinary mind for that activity or subject by birth.So, interest as I belief acts as a torch in a dark hotel whose light's went off and practice and hard work are the keys for our room.
Katie O., I don't think that this was intended to be sexist. Anyway.
I think some people are prodigies, which means that they have genetics that allow them to easily become "genius" at a young age. If these people are in an at least decent environment, they will probably study enough to become geniuses without pressure from parents, and seem to be naturals at around four.
Now this doesn't mean not everyone can be a genius- though I'm not a prodigy, and would like to be a genius, so I might be biased- but it just means it would probably be very, very hard to be a genius if you didn't start from a young age with favorable genes. But possible.