Math is getting broken.

the is some problem in log identities. please take a look : f(x)=logxix+if(x) = log \frac{x-i}{x+i} g(x)=logx+ixi g(x) = log \frac{x+i}{x-i} just by inspection we can conclude very easily that f(x)=g(x)f(x) = - g(x) but computing f(0) and g(0), we get f(0)=log0i0+i=log(1)f(0) = log \frac{0-i}{0+i} = log(-1) g(0)=log0+i0i=log(1)g(0) = log \frac{0+i}{0-i} = log(-1) for log(-1) we can use euler's identity that: eiθ=cosθ+isinθ e^{i\theta} = cos\theta + isin\theta forθ=πfor \theta = \pi eiπ=1e^{i\pi} = -1 taking log ln(1)=iπ ln(-1) = i\pi hence we got then : f(0)=g(0)=iπ f(0) = g(0) = i\pi this is contradicting f(x) = - g(x). i tried finding some limitations for loga - logb = log(a/b) identity on internet, but there are not.

so please tell me if there is some wrong in my computation or else.

i like complex numbers, and i think they are more than just imaginary.

by the way i got this problem while trying to compute the integral by partial fractions: 1x2+1dx=12i1xi1x+idx \int \frac{1}{x^{2}+1}dx = \frac{1}{2i} \int \frac{1}{x-i} - \frac{1}{x+i}dx

#Algebra #ComplexNumbers #Logarithms #Integration #Euler'sFormula(ComplexNumbers)

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Log doesn't apply to negative number.

What is log 0 ? ( let base be 10)

Log 0 = x => 0 = 10^x

X has to be -infinity for this to hold true.

So 0 is limit. You can't go below 0. Technically speaking log 0 is also undefined. And so is log (-1)

So our general rule won't hold true.

Limitation : log applies only to positive real numbers

Sanath Kumar B P - 6 years, 11 months ago

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hi,

yes in real calculus, log of negative number is not defined, but this doesn't stops us from seeking further,

you can have a read on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_logarithm

in fact when a number is not a positive real number, its logarithm is a complex number. eg : z=reiθz=r e^{i\theta} then if we could take natural log (base e) on both side, lnz=lnr+iθ ln z = ln r + i\theta where r is the modulus of z and theta is principal argument.

Soham Zemse - 6 years, 11 months ago

\sqrt { a*b } =\sqrt { a } *\sqrt { b } holds if and only if any one of a and b is non negative.... thus your second step where you cancel -i/i to get -1 is wrong because both numerator and denominator have negative real numbers hence the rule stated earlier cannot be used...... hence value of f(0)= log(1) and not log(-1).

Abhinav Raichur - 6 years, 11 months ago

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i just multiplied and divided by i in (-i/i) to get (1/-1) = -1. anyways thanks for that rule, it was troubling me.

Soham Zemse - 6 years, 11 months ago

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try this now! {its an interesting paradox like the one you shared above}.. here's the link:

{ https://brilliant.org/discussions/thread/beware-of-blind-algebra/} .......... i would also request you to reshare this as i have a poor following :p........... thanks!!

Abhinav Raichur - 6 years, 11 months ago
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