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Find all real solutions to the equation, 4x240x+51=04x^2-40\lfloor x \rfloor+51=0

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(2x)240x+51=0(2x)^2- 40 \lfloor x \rfloor +51=0

Two things to be noticed here:

  • 2x2x must be an integer
  • It must be odd.

Therefore, the fractional part of xx would be 0.5. Now we can write x=N+0.5x=N+0.5 and solve it quite easily.

Edit: @Dev Sharma @Aareyan Manzoor @Adarsh Kumar @Akshat Sharda This solution is wrong. Because 2x2x need not be an integer. (2x)2Z⇏2xZ(2x)^2\in Z\not \Rightarrow 2x\in Z. I'll have to think again about an alternative method.

Pranjal Jain - 5 years, 6 months ago

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One can easily draw the grpah of x210+5140\frac{x^2}{10} + \frac{51}{40} and x\left \lfloor x \right \rfloor and find the intersection.

Kartik Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

Ooops!I didn't see that !Thanx a lot!

Adarsh Kumar - 5 years, 6 months ago

why 2x must be integer?

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

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for ease write the equation as(2x)2=40[x]51(2x)^2=40[x]-51 by definition the floor function is an integer, implying 40[x]-51 is also an integer which also implies (2x)2(2x)^2 is an integer

Aareyan Manzoor - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Aareyan Manzoor thanks

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

A simple standard approach will crush it:

All the real roots of the given equation will lie in (1,9). This can be easily figured out once you draw the graphs: y=4x2+51y=4x^2+51 and y=40xy=40\lfloor x \rfloor [because the points at which these two graphs will intersect will be the solutions of the given equation] and observe that the later one will never be able to catch the former one.

So now let us look at our equation, which can be rewritten as 4x2+51=40x4x^2+51=40 \lfloor x \rfloor. Looking at the RHS we conclude that it is always an integer. Therefore for the equation to be correct LHS must be an integer too.

Now put x=i\lfloor x \rfloor = i in the RHS, where ii is an integer lying in (1,9)(1,9) and find the value of xx. To be more explicit, only those values of xx will be considered as the roots of the given equation which will satisfy x=i\lfloor x \rfloor = i simultaneously.

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 5 years, 6 months ago

Actually, the solution is simpler than you might think.

Rearranging the equation: 40x=4x2+5140\lfloor x\rfloor=4x^2+51
40(x1)<4x2+5140x40(x-1)<4x^2+51\leq40x

  • From the lower limit, 4x2+51>40(x1)4x^2+51>40(x-1) (x72)(x132)>0(x-\frac{7}{2})(x-\frac{13}{2})>0

    (x<72x<\frac{7}{2} and x<132x< \frac{13}{2} ) OR (x>72 x>\frac{7}{2} and x>132 x>\frac{13}{2} ) which imply x<72 x<\frac{7}{2} OR x>132 x>\frac{13}{2}

  • Similarly, from upper limit, 4x2+5140x4x^2+51\leq 40x (x172)(x32)0(x-\frac{17}{2})(x-\frac{3}{2})\leq 0

    (x172x\geq \frac{17}{2} and x32x \leq \frac{3}{2} ) OR (x172 x\leq \frac{17}{2} and x32 x\geq \frac{3}{2} ) which imply (an impossible case) OR 32x172 \frac{3}{2} \leq x \leq \frac{17}{2}

  • Hence, solutions are in the region (1.5x<3.5)U(6.5<x8.5)(1.5\leq x<3.5)U( 6.5<x\leq8.5)

  • Rearranging the given equation, we get x=40x512x=\frac{\sqrt{40\lfloor x \rfloor-51}}{2}

  • Solving in each region,

@1.5x<2,x=1@ 1.5\leq x<2, \lfloor x \rfloor=1 x has no real solutions

@2x<3,x=2@ 2\leq x<3, \lfloor x \rfloor=2 x=292x=\frac{\sqrt{29}}{2}

@3x<3.5,x=3@ 3\leq x<3.5, \lfloor x \rfloor=3 x=692x=\frac{\sqrt{69}}{2} Which is a contradiction (as it is not in the region)

(Note: I may even have done some stupid mistake, please verify)

@6.5<x<7,x=6@ 6.5<x<7, \lfloor x \rfloor=6 x=3221x=\frac{3}{2}\sqrt{21}

@7x<8,x=7@ 7\leq x<8, \lfloor x \rfloor=7 x=2292x=\frac{\sqrt{229}}{2}

@8x<8.5,x=8@ 8\leq x<8.5, \lfloor x \rfloor=8 x=2692x=\frac{\sqrt{269}}{2}

  • the solutions are x=292,3221,2292,2692x=\frac{\sqrt{29}}{2},\frac{3}{2}\sqrt{21},\frac{\sqrt{229}}{2},\frac{\sqrt{269}}{2}

[Please comment, if you find any of the assumptions to be wrong or questionable. ]

Harish Sasikumar - 5 years, 6 months ago

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8.20060973342836

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Yes, you are correct. I changed it.

Harish Sasikumar - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Harish Sasikumar Agree!

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 6 months ago

Can someone explain, why there are 2 'rejectable' solutions coming up as we are solving it ?

Harish Sasikumar - 5 years, 6 months ago

I found 17/2 to be an answer too.

Silver Vice - 5 years, 6 months ago

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How did you get that solution? It doesn't seem correct. 17/2=8.5 17/2=8.5

LHS=4(8.5)2408.5+51=289320+51=200 LHS = 4(8.5)^2 -40\lfloor 8.5 \rfloor +51 =289-320+51=20\neq 0 It doesn't satisfy the equation

Harish Sasikumar - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Harish Sasikumar I used the Shreedhacharya rule. it gave me two roots, one is 3/2 as mentioned in your answer. the other was 17/2. I am an amateur at math and might have made some mistake. Joined brilliant.org recently to improve my problem solving skill.

Silver Vice - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Silver Vice OK. Understood the mistake. You took it as a quadratic equation and solved. That's how you got those solutions (3/2 and 17/2).

However it is NOT a quadratic equation. There is a 'floor' function in between which is represented as x\lfloor x \rfloor and is defined as the the integral part of a real number. For example 3.4=3\lfloor 3.4 \rfloor =3

Keep doing problems Brilliant. It's an awesome source of problems. Best of luck :).

Harish Sasikumar - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Harish Sasikumar Floor function? ill research about it. Ill surely try to encounter more such questions. Thanks ! :)

Silver Vice - 5 years, 6 months ago

How about 4 yy - 40 y\lfloor \sqrt{y}\rfloor + 51 = 0 for all rational y?

y = {7.25, 47.25, 57.25, 67.25}

zz - 40 z4\lfloor \sqrt{\frac{z}{4}}\rfloor + 51 = 0 for all positive integer z!

z = {29, 189, 229, 269}

I guess this is the solution of the equation 4 x2x^2 - 40 x\lfloor x \rfloor + 51 = 0.

x = {294,1894,2294,2694\sqrt{\frac{29}{4}}, \sqrt{\frac{189}{4}}, \sqrt{\frac{229}{4}}, \sqrt{\frac{269}{4}}} = {292,3212,2292,2692\frac{\sqrt{29}}{2}, \frac{3 \sqrt{21}}{2}, \frac{\sqrt{229}}{2}, \frac{\sqrt{269}}{2}}

This means it doesn't follow only 2 but duplicated into 4. Changed from {172,32\frac{17}{2}, \frac32}.

zz - 40 z4\lfloor -\sqrt{\frac{z}{4}}\rfloor + 51 = 0 for all positive integer z could be some more but not found with any.

x = {292,3212,2292,2692\frac{\sqrt{29}}{2}, \frac{3 \sqrt{21}}{2}, \frac{\sqrt{229}}{2}, \frac{\sqrt{269}}{2}}

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 6 months ago

obviously [x]≥2 as 2x=40[x]512x=\sqrt{40[x]-51} and x real. put x =[x]+y where y is frac part ≥0 and <1.so 4([x]+y)240[x]+51=4y2+8[x]y+(4[x]240[x]+51)=04([x]+y)^2-40[x]+51=4y^2+8[x]y+(4[x]^2-40[x]+51)=0 due to y range:(the other one will always <0 on the restrictions) 02[x]+40[x]512<10≤\dfrac{-2[x]+\sqrt{40[x]-51}}{2}<1 02[x]+40[x]51<20≤-2[x]+\sqrt{40[x]-51}<2 2[x]40[x]51<2+2[x]2[x]≤\sqrt{40[x]-51}<2+2[x] 4[x]240[x]51<4[x]2+8[x]+44[x]^2≤40[x]-51<4[x]^2+8[x]+4 4[x]240[x]+510<4[x]232[x]+554[x]^2-40[x]+51≤0<4[x]^2-32[x]+55 different cases we get(since all int≥2): 2[x]8[x]2(squeezes with [x]≥2 to get [x]=2)or[x]62≤[x]≤8 \cap [x]≤2(\text{squeezes with [x]≥2 to get [x]=2}) \quad or \quad [x]≥6 so {[x]=26[x]8\begin{cases} [x]=2\\ 6≤[x]≤8\end{cases} just check all 4 cases to get respective y and x.

Aareyan Manzoor - 5 years, 6 months ago
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