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Lets start off by finding the value of a2+b2+c2 in terms of another sum by doing the following: (a+b+c)2=a2+b2+c2+2(ab+ac+bc)=0⇒(a2+b2+c2)2=4(ab+ac+bc)2
Now expanding out the RHS: ...=4(a2b2+a2c2+b2c2+2abc(a+b+c))=4(a2b2+a2c2+b2c2)
Now if we expand out (a2+b2+c2)2 and cancel out terms we get: a4+b4+c4=2(a2b2+a2c2+b2c2)........(1)⇒2(a4+b4+c4)=a4+b4+c4+2(a2b2+a2c2+b2c2)
Approach: Factoring polynomials using the (slightly abused) remainder factor theorem for polynomials in several degrees.
Define f(a,b,c)=2(a4+b4+c4)−(a2+b2+c2)2.
We want to show that if a+b+c=0, then f(a,b,c)=0.
This strongly suggests to us that f(a,b,c)=(a+b+c)×g(a,b,c).
If a+b+c=0, then we have f(−b−c,b,c)=0. Notice that the powers of a only occur in even degree, hence f(a,b,c)=f(−a,b,c). This implies that f(b+c,b,c)=0, and thus that a−b−c∣f(a,b,c). Cyclically, we also get that b−c−a∣f(a,b,c) and c−a−b∣f(a,b,c).
Putting this all together, this strongly suggests that
(a+b+c)(a−b−c)(b−c−a)(c−a−b)∣f(a,b,c)
Since both sides have the same degree (4), we know that they differ by a constant. In fact, we can now verify that
The equation 2(a4+b4+c4)=(a2+b2+c2)2 is equivalent to
−a4−b4−c4+2a2b2+2a2c2+2b2c2=0.
This equation factors as
(a+b+c)(−a+b+c)(a−b+c)(a+b−c)=0,
and the result follows.
This factorization comes up in Heron's formula:
K2=s(s−a)(s−b)(s−c)=161(a+b+c)(−a+b+c)(a−b+c)(a+b−c)=161(−a4−b4−c4+2a2b2+2a2c2+2b2c2).
Great! That's the "Use Heron's Formula" that I alluded to. There are many ways to write the expression of K, and most people are only familiar with the factored form, instead of the expanded form.
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Lets start off by finding the value of a2+b2+c2 in terms of another sum by doing the following: (a+b+c)2=a2+b2+c2+2(ab+ac+bc)=0⇒ (a2+b2+c2)2=4(ab+ac+bc)2
Now expanding out the RHS: ...=4(a2b2+a2c2+b2c2+2abc(a+b+c))=4(a2b2+a2c2+b2c2)
Now if we expand out (a2+b2+c2)2 and cancel out terms we get: a4+b4+c4=2(a2b2+a2c2+b2c2) ........ (1) ⇒ 2(a4+b4+c4)=a4+b4+c4+2(a2b2+a2c2+b2c2)
∴ 2(a4+b4+c4)=(a2+b2+c2)2
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Yeah! Thanks , I got an easier way . Read below.
Approach: Factoring polynomials using the (slightly abused) remainder factor theorem for polynomials in several degrees.
Define f(a,b,c)=2(a4+b4+c4)−(a2+b2+c2)2.
We want to show that if a+b+c=0, then f(a,b,c)=0. This strongly suggests to us that f(a,b,c)=(a+b+c)×g(a,b,c).
If a+b+c=0, then we have f(−b−c,b,c)=0. Notice that the powers of a only occur in even degree, hence f(a,b,c)=f(−a,b,c). This implies that f(b+c,b,c)=0, and thus that a−b−c∣f(a,b,c). Cyclically, we also get that b−c−a∣f(a,b,c) and c−a−b∣f(a,b,c).
Putting this all together, this strongly suggests that
(a+b+c)(a−b−c)(b−c−a)(c−a−b)∣f(a,b,c)
Since both sides have the same degree (4), we know that they differ by a constant. In fact, we can now verify that
f(a,b,c)=−(a+b+c)(a−b−c)(b−c−a)(c−a−b)
The equation 2(a4+b4+c4)=(a2+b2+c2)2 is equivalent to −a4−b4−c4+2a2b2+2a2c2+2b2c2=0. This equation factors as (a+b+c)(−a+b+c)(a−b+c)(a+b−c)=0, and the result follows.
This factorization comes up in Heron's formula: K2=s(s−a)(s−b)(s−c)=161(a+b+c)(−a+b+c)(a−b+c)(a+b−c)=161(−a4−b4−c4+2a2b2+2a2c2+2b2c2).
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Great! That's the "Use Heron's Formula" that I alluded to. There are many ways to write the expression of K, and most people are only familiar with the factored form, instead of the expanded form.
Really great , I was curious of a heron's formula solution. Thanks!
Use the convention of S1=a+b+c, S2=ab+bc+ca and S3=abc, and Pn=an+bn+cn. Then by Newton's Sum method:
P2=S1P1−2S2=0−2S2=−2S2
S4=S1P3−S2P2+S3P1=0−S2(−2S2)+0=2S22
Now LHS=2P4=4S22 and RHS=P22=(−2S2)2=4S22=LHS
Plug In 1+1-2 xD xD Just kidding. I'm on it!
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That's the most special case. -_-