NMTC 2K14 Is over...How well did you fare?

Hi Everyone! The 2014 NMTC (prelim) just concluded about an hour back in most indian cities. This competition known for its wacky and non-routine problems is quite akin to the Putnam Lowell competition as the median scores in this competition too are almost zero. (Because of the heavy negative marking). 2014 paper was a mix of happiness, sadness, shock and surprise to me. Actually it was a happy/joyous paper because it was quite an easy one ...(not too easy though)...sorrowful because I DIDN'T do my BEST.- I could have easily scored 20+ :(. Shocking because it contained some totally easy problems and surpising because despite it being easier than prev.papers, it was totally not-solvable in 2 hrs. ( unless you are truly a genius). Owing to my illness, My speed was badly reduced. I was able to attempt only 19 questions, though I could have easily notched up 3-4 more ones . Final score-19 (20 if +1 marks is given for Bonus) :'(

How well did you all fare? Please do post your scores! Do like and reshare so that it reaches a larger audience and we get to know their scores also!

PLS NOTE THAT I AM IN JUNIOR LEVEL AND SATVIK'S ANSWER KEY TOO IS APPLICABLE FOR THE SAME.

#Algebra #NumberTheory #Math #2014 #NMTC

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I got 20. This is the answer key.

  1. C

  2. D

  3. B

  4. A

  5. BONUS

  6. B

  7. D

  8. B

  9. C

  10. D

  11. C

  12. C

  13. C

  14. C

  15. B

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  1. 142857

  2. 0

  3. 20808

  4. 625

  5. 2

  6. 30

  7. 2

  8. 3

  9. 757

  10. 31:74

  11. 1

  12. 726

  13. 0.66666 or 2/3

  14. 4

  15. 400

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Wait....You got only 19! Bonus marks are not counted. Instead the paper will be evaluated out of 29.

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Krishna Ar are you competing in JUNIOR LEVEL...? :?

Siva Prasad - 6 years, 9 months ago

Ans of question 15 is 395

Divyansh Singhal - 6 years, 9 months ago

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No..no...no!

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Krishna Ar Resonance answer key is showing 395.

Divyansh Singhal - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Divyansh Singhal How much are you scoring??????

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

@Krishna Ar Please tell the solution of Q16. whose answer is 142857

Divyansh Singhal - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Divyansh Singhal Well, cyclic property of 7...or u can do it by writing an equation

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

Why is the fifth question bonus.

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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The answer wasn't matching with the options, though all the options were approximately correct..

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Satvik Golechha No i got option d exact and I will post my solution to my posted problem(NMTC 2014-2(Junior level)). But my friend also got a correct answer 520/7 but not matching the options. I am not sure why multiple answers are found. I will think about it.

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Mietantei Conan I also got 520/7. And all answer keys are saying this question is bonus...

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Satvik Golechha Did you check my solution?

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Mietantei Conan Where? Will you give me the link?

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Satvik Golechha See i have deleted the question because the problem is incorrect because AEE=0.5\frac{AE}{E}=0.5 not 23\frac{2}{3} if you fix the rest things.

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Mietantei Conan It is AE/ECAE/EC. Sorry for the typo.

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Mietantei Conan I am again very sorry for miscalculation it is not 0.50.5 but 1291236\frac{129^\frac{1}{2}-3}{6}

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

@Satvik Golechha Please look into my solution.

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

Which class are you in? How can you give Junior exam if you are 17?

Jayakumar Krishnan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Jayakumar Krishnan See i am not 17 but i am 14 and this account used to be of my brother and now he dosen't use it any longer so i am using it.

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

Why downvotes?

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Notice that almost all comments have been downvoted. Some pervert is doing this for cynical pleasure.

Jayakumar Krishnan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Jayakumar Krishnan Yeah! Maybe you're right... :D

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago

I am JUNIOR LEVEL.

Siva Prasad - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Yes.....how much are you getting..? I too am in Junior level

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

Uhh... looks like 2nd level is not near reach. Shouldn't the 15th one be 399.375?

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Nope its 400 exactly. ANyway @Siddharth G - how much are you getting? What is the expected cut-off at your center? Where did you write it? What are your friends getting?

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Krishna Ar Looks like 16.5. I gave it at my local FIITJEE centre(southdelhi). Don't know about their marks yet, probably tomorrow, due to my miserable paper, I came home without much discussion. Is the cutoff centre-wise?

For the 15th Q, the area of the larger triangle is 405 and the smaller one is 5.625. Subtracting, I got 399.375

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Siddharth G Well it's quite fine for qualifying.. Yes, its center-wise. Its a huge plus for those who gave it from their school like me, I just had to you know get above 10 and I got 10 marks more than needed. You must also keep in mind that only 10% would move on to the next round. So Cutoff would be decided by only how the people who wrote in the same center as you did. Well , for 15...you dont need to find areas of small/large and all that...only thin' you need to do is- Find ar(pllgm)=720. Then you get ar(tri.gdc)=640*0.5=320. Thus it is 720-320=400. I hope it was clear

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Krishna Ar However, the competition in an institution like FIITJEE, is higher than a one in an average school. I think about 200 students would have given the test. Acc. to me, ar(gdc) = 6300.5630*0.5 =315315

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Siddharth G Sid, if you use similarities, you will get it only as 640. Not 630. Donno how you got this..can you explain?

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Krishna Ar Sorry, took the wrong ratio. Same reason why I got 399.375

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Siddharth G Ah...It's fine. Well , I think AMTI will accept this perhaps.

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

@Siddharth G One of my friends also got 399.375, but I got 400. Also, Brilliant will accept both, and so should the AMTI.

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago

With this answer key I got 25

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Congon! 25 is a really cool score in NMTC prelims.

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago

what is nmtc?

Pranav Kirsur - 6 years, 9 months ago

@Anik Mandal @Rishabh Jain @HARSH SHrivastava -I've sent NMTC paper check it out

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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sir can you please send me the paper of nmtc 2014 on deepanshjindal2001@ gmail.com

Deepansh Jindal - 5 years ago

Thanks,Krishna!!

Anik Mandal - 6 years, 9 months ago

Thank you @Krishna Ar

Harsh Shrivastava - 6 years, 8 months ago

Yes the 5 th question is incorrect as we are getting three answers by three different methods and all are the in the options provided.

VIDIT LOHIA - 6 years, 9 months ago

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No......Vidit.........three answers are coming......But only 230/3 is in the options........

Prasad Nikam - 6 years, 9 months ago

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All the other are approximately equal

VIDIT LOHIA - 6 years, 9 months ago

OH No! when did this happen..I fORGOT!!..from the past 3 years I'd been writing..alwayz got to 2nd2^{nd} level ,,wrote RMO..then came back..but this time shifting school and being busy in hosting cultural comp...I totally fORGOT! hope they have it once again...its really nice platform for me to make a lot of friends..for the questions they are easy in 1st1^{st} level but quite difficult nxt step...As for the past 5 years I've been shifting every year I get to see some of my old friends...and even some new ones ..whom I've not yet seen like @Krishna Ar well I wish myself better luck nxt time... Krishna Can you mail me the Q.paper ..even though I'd have been writing the Inter Level..

Arya Samanta - 6 years, 9 months ago

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:D. Shit does happen! Its ok! I will be scanning it coz sooo many people have asked for it...and I shall send it to you also @Anik Mandal

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

Can anyone tell me when is the result going to be declared????

Kushagra Sahni - 6 years, 9 months ago

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31-09-14 most probably

Divyansh Singhal - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Nope- 31-08-14

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

I have attempted 26 questions which I think are correct.

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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You're in 12th? Which state?

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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testi

Kabane Wasabi - 6 years, 9 months ago

No no i am not in 12th but 9th. This account is of my brother and he dosen't use it any longer so i am using it.

mietantei conan - 6 years, 9 months ago

Can anyone please tell me about what are the 3 values of 'm' in question no.8 in Part B.......

Prasad Nikam - 6 years, 9 months ago

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You're talking about question 7, not 8. And the 2 values are 12 and 6.

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Oh! ..Yeah.That only .I was thinking from long time that how 3 values of m are possible ?.. ....Sorry for that......btw thankx.....

Prasad Nikam - 6 years, 9 months ago

@Aditya Raut @Dinesh Chavan - How much are you guys scoring in INTER level ?

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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I made some silly mistakes, otherwise I expected my score to be 29/3029/30 ,but now it's gonna be less than that .....too less....


For example, I factorized 2700000127000001 in half minute, using

3003+13=(300+1)((300+1)23×300×1)=301×(3012302)=(301)(301+30)(30130)=7×43×271×331300^3+1^3=(300+1)((300+1)^2-3\times 300 \times 1)\\=301\times (301^2-30^2 )= (301)(301+30)(301-30)=7\times 43\times 271\times 331

And after this, i wrote their sum as 642642 in stead of 652652


At one place, I introduced 12\dfrac{1}{2} in heron's formula which is not there!!!


At one place, they asked double of that angle (ans being 225225^\circ), and I wrote the angle( 112.5112.5^\circ )


Once in my rough work, i saw my own 66 as 99, and wrote an answer that was greater than right one by 3.


One of them I left unattempted ,but later got it, just after giving the answer sheet back !


so sad right? LOL ! Few more mistakes like that, for which someone should slap me .... But nvm, that's a part and parcel of life :P

Aditya Raut - 6 years, 9 months ago

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What say @Satvik Golechha or @Krishna Ar ? Do you feel like giving me a strong slap for the above noted silly mistakes ?

Aditya Raut - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Aditya Raut Nope...In your case it was silly mistakes, in my case- I could have easily scored 5/6 marks more than what I'm getting (20)...so for me both are the same...everyone makes silly mistakes, I'm sure that you are selceted

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Krishna Ar And if I don't I will find your house whether it maybe in any part of the world, I'll come to give you a party :P

Aditya Raut - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Aditya Raut :D :P The results are out...aren't they?

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Krishna Ar They are?

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Siddharth G Yes (Unofficially). Contact the FIITJEE person who's incharge of this.

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Krishna Ar ty

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

@Aditya Raut could you please upload q paper for inter level?

Dhruva Kothari - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Dhruva Kothari Some person has already done that, just search in brilliant search , he posted each of the questions separately. I don't remember name. @Dhruva Kothari

Aditya Raut - 6 years, 9 months ago

Hmm... Seems like a tie! here are mine-
-- I found the answer for 16, went wrong with verification, and skipped the question.
-- In the AP formula, I divided by 2 twice!
-- Wrongly added four two digit numbers.
-- Took the wrong ratio in similarities.
-- 372=3937*2=39!
-- Multiplied both side by 00

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

Can you send me the inter level paper at [email protected]

rajat gupta - 5 years, 11 months ago

What was the cutoff for junior level (1st and 2nd both levels) ?

Rayyan Shahid - 6 years, 3 months ago

Can you please send the question paper at the email id given [email protected]

Lakshika Rathi - 5 years, 10 months ago

can anyone upload nmtc paper of 2014 of class 9 and 10

Deepansh Jindal - 5 years, 2 months ago

hey krishna give me some more detail about the competition and pleade some questions also coz it looks very interesting from maths point of view

Rishabh Jain - 6 years, 9 months ago

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www.amtionline.com

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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is it popular in southern india ??

Rishabh Jain - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Rishabh Jain Yes...but its conducted in 70+ cities and this year over 1.5 lac people are participating

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

Too many silly mistakes.Fluked the 23rd, erred 25th, blundered the 29th and am still doubtful about 30th.
Attempted- 24
Correct(probably)- 20
Score(approx.)- 18
BTW what was the timing at your centre?

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Timing 2-4. I attempted 19 and got all of them right! :D

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Could you post these answers?(In the form of q.no-answer)

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Siddharth G OK.

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

@Siddharth G Tell me which batch are you in and which class?

Kushagra Sahni - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Kushagra Sahni SANKALP47R(class X)

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

Yeah. Me too at junior level. I am getting 20.

Kushagra Sahni - 6 years, 9 months ago

I participated in the Inter Level, and I am expecting about 18-20. Could anyone post solutions, or help me with some problems?

Nanayaranaraknas Vahdam - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Nanayaranaraknas Vahdam Why don't you post the problems here? Then anyone can have a go at them.

Siddharth G - 6 years, 9 months ago

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hey can u mail the scanned copy of paper to me at [email protected]

Rishabh Jain - 6 years, 9 months ago

What does NMTC stand for?

Mervin Bueno - 6 years, 9 months ago

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National Mathematics Talent Contest

milind prabhu - 6 years, 9 months ago

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www.amtionline.com

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

are you given paper for your home if yes then please email me the pdf file of it at - [email protected] please email me it would be helpful for me

Rishabh Jain - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Ok...I shall try to!

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Can you send it too me also?@Krishna Ar

Anik Mandal - 6 years, 9 months ago

Hey @Krishna Ar please email to me also,([email protected])Thnx in advance☺☺

Harsh Shrivastava - 6 years, 9 months ago

hey you haven't mailed it !!

Rishabh Jain - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Rishabh Jain Yes, @Rishabh Jain - My scanner was (And is) down...Thus I was unable to scan it...Apologies to all

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

I am too at the junior level and I am faring about some 16 marks.

VIDIT LOHIA - 6 years, 9 months ago

In Part A , ques.9 ........It is not clearly seen as EF = FC...........It should also be bonus........It is seen as EF-FC....

Prasad Nikam - 6 years, 9 months ago

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How much are you scoring?...No it is a very clear question

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Not vry much sure , ........But something around 18 or 19 mks........

Prasad Nikam - 6 years, 9 months ago

@Siddharth G @Satvik Golechha and others- Post your scores! Post it preferably in the form of - (No. attempted, No. correct, Score)

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago
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