Open Question About Minimizing Arc Length

Consider all continuous, (piecewise) differentiable functions f:[0,1]R+f: [0,1] \rightarrow \mathbb{R}^+ such that
1) f(x)0 f(x) \geq 0 ,
2) f(0)=0,f(1)=0 f(0) = 0, f(1) = 0 ,
3) The area bounded by ff and the x-axis, is 1.

What is the smallest possible arc-length LL of ff from 0 to 1?

I believe that this is an open question, and would be interested in hearing about any thoughts that you have. You might need to apply numerical integration techniques to calculate arc length using calculus


By the iso-perimetric theorem, we know that the curve with the smallest perimeter which has an area of 1, is the circle with radius 1π \frac{1}{\sqrt{\pi}}. This has a perimeter of 2π 2 \sqrt{\pi} , and hence the smallest possible arc-length is bounded below by 2π1=2.545 2 \sqrt{\pi}-1 = 2.545 . Of course, this doesn't yield a function, nor does it have a straight line segment, so it doesn't qualify. Can you improve this bound?

For an easy upper bound, we can take the 1×1 1 \times 1 square, which has a perimeter of 3. Of course, this strictly speaking isn't a function, but we could approximate it with piecewise linear functions. Can you improve this bound?

We have shown that 2.545L3 2.545 \leq L \leq 3 . Can you tighten this further? To within ±0.1?±0.01? \pm 0.1? \pm 0.01?

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No calculus of variations is necessary, once we recognize that any curved segment of this function has to be a segment of a circle. So, for symmetry reasons, we first presume that it could be an arc of a circle of some radius rr, spanning from x=0x = 0 to x=1x = 1, where f(0)=f(1)f(0) = f(1), so that the total length is f(0)+f(1)+f(0) + f(1) + the length of the arc of the circle. When worked out, given the parameter rr and that the area must be 11, the expression for LL is: 12(4+4r214r(r1)ArcCot(4r21))\frac { 1 }{ 2 } (4+\sqrt { 4{ r }^{ 2 }-1 } -4r(r-1)ArcCot(\sqrt { 4{ r }^{ 2 }-1 } )) Even calculus isn't needed, since for any r<1/2r < 1/2, it becomes imaginary, and that's the least real value this expression can have. The curve of least arc length is nothing more than a semicircle raised above y=0y = 0 such that the area under it is 1,1, and which the total arc length works out to 2+π4=2.7854...2+\frac { \pi }{ 4 } =2.7854...

Michael Mendrin - 7 years ago

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"once we recognize that any curved segment of this function has to be a segment of a circle". How do we know that ?

Abhishek Sinha - 7 years ago

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Check out "isoperimetric theorem", which says, among other things, "among all curves of fixed length with fixed endpoints, a circular arc encloses a maximum area between it and the line joining its endpoints". Draw a line from f(0)f(0) to f(1)f(1), and let's assume that the curve doesn't intersect that line. If the curve of minimum length given bounded area is something other than an arc of a circle, it's not hard to show that there could exist an oval other than a circle that has less length of perimeter than a circle, given an enclosed area.

Michael Mendrin - 7 years ago

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@Michael Mendrin Thanks! Didn't know that. Was thinking about cycloid.

Vijay Raghavan - 7 years ago

That's another way of defining curvature.

Milly Choochoo - 7 years ago

I believe that to be the optimum case; placing a semicircle on top of a rectangle of height 1π8 1 - \frac{\pi}{8} . Note that you still have to check out various other cases, like when we have other straight line segments.

Note that what you defined isn't a function, so we'd likely need limiting cases to it. I believe that we can get approximately close to, but not equal to, that value. That would also be interesting to study.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago

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It's also not hard to show that if the path starts out as a vertical line before going off in another direction, the point where it leaves the straight part is going to be a tangent, not a discontinuity. Right away, then you know the path has to be a semi-circle, spaced above y=0y=0.

As a matter of fact, I've just now posted a problem related to this: The Stingy Rancher...

Michael Mendrin - 7 years ago

What about the super-trivial stretching of the non-function circle segment (that we'd want) into a half ellipse that satisfies your conditions?

Here is the equation for an ellipse of major axis (aa) 12\frac{1}{2} and minor axis (bb) 2π\frac{2}{\pi}. Choosing those came from knowing that the area of an ellipse is πab\pi ab.

f(x)=2π14(x12)2f(x) = \frac{2}{\pi}\sqrt{1-4(x-\frac{1}{2})^2}

The area above the x-axis is the 11, and the perimeter of half of the ellipse plus the line from 00 to 11 is approximately 2.7918532.791853.

I've read the comments here, and this seems to be a much nicer function (in the reals) than the others.

Milly Choochoo - 7 years ago

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An elliptical arc won't yield the shortest arc length, given a fixed enclosed area.

Michael Mendrin - 7 years ago

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I'd most certainly say that also. The reason I put that was because on every other suggestion that I've seen here so far, I see that Calvin has said it isn't actually a function.

It seems to me that minimizing the average curvature is the key here. Also, nice 'Stingy Rancher' problem Michael.

Milly Choochoo - 7 years ago

How about a Calculus of Variation based approach ?

Abhishek Sinha - 7 years ago

Woah that is so cool I've never even though about that. :O

Finn Hulse - 7 years ago

It is also easy to reduce the upper bound to 2.683\approx 2.683. For this consider a segment of a circle passing through the two end points with its radius chosen such that the enclosed area is 11.

Abhishek Sinha - 7 years ago

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I believe that doesn't give us a function.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago
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