Preparation Help ( NSEJS and Mathematics Olympiads)

Respected Sirs and Dear Brilliantians,

I do write this note on behalf of my friend Rajdeep Dhingra, and this note is an extension to one of his notes where he asked to provide some advice about NSEJS and other Science Olympiads.

Firstly, Please suggest some resources and Worksheets on Brilliant which would improve our Problem solving Strategies and olympiad skills in Physics, also please mention the Prerequisite knowledge.

Please do the same for Chemistry and Biology, by providing some questions and worksheets on Brilliant.

Mathematics:

Please suggest some prerequisite knowledge and kindly create some Worksheets(according to levels, so that we can progress gradually) which would increase our Problem solving strategies and Help us learn more.

We would be extremely indebted if some kind help is provided.

Thanks,

Swapnil Das

Rajdeep Dhingra

#OlympaidPreparation

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Physics is often confused with difficult mathematics, (you may also check mostly level 5 problems on brilliant.org) but according to me physics is a different branch of science which is needed to be understood in its purest form (The concept). Problem solving may involve mathematics. For understanding physics and concepts you need to be a great thinker and have strong imagination. Physicists and in fact scientist are often referred as philosophers as well.

I am creating conceptual problems on physics and posting slowly and steadily as and when possible (So keep following me :P ), Meanwhile you may refer to many books available in the market on these exams and start learning and preparing.!! Previous years exam papers will also help you understand the level and course coverage as well!!

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

Please see the QP and make a set or it. Also there are no books in the market or this. Please suggest some(for problem Solving). I would be thankful if U could make a set ASAP.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

As i have searched on net
$\text{Recommended Books for NSEJS:}$

NCERT books of Phy, Chemistry, Maths and Biology (IX and X and selective topics of class XI)
Concept of Physics - HC Verma
Higher Algebra - Hall and Knight
Elementary Mathematics - Dorofeev , Potapov and Rozov

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – Thank U sir Very much.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

NSEJS is not that difficult, i cleared it last year mainly because of math, you will definitely get full or close to full marks in Math. So the topics of concern are PCB , I used mainly my coaching sheets for that , but if your coaching doesnt provide that you should do 11th and 12th class ncert for these subjects that will be more than enough. Also try solving previous year questions. I believe you can clear nsejs very easily, the problem is 2nd stage i.e. INJSO. It involves subjective questions which are of high difficulty level. Just for information , if u clear nsejs you will be eligible for INAO(Junior Astronomy Olympiad), you can clear that too if you are good at physics and Math. Just do 11-12NCERT. I Hope you will qualify the first stage easily. PS - I couldn't clear INJSO. And last year's cutoff was a little above 100out of 240marks in NSEJS.Math is only asked in first stage and not in other stages.

Aditya Chauhan - 6 years ago

The JSO is the most broad spectrum olympiad as you have to be good at all 4 :PCMB You just cant do 11th and 12th syllabus fully, its very difficult , I couldnt and I didnt. One may say, Kushagra Juneja (Gold medalist ) did it and thus its advisable, but what I'll tell you is first make your basics of 9th and 10th grounded very well. Do AS MUCH of advanced chem as possible. Rest , the path will be clear!

Krishna Ar - 6 years ago

for biology try books from 'cengage learning' i find them informative

Ritwik Jain - 6 years ago

Could be more specific ? Which book ?

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

Science and Technology Foundation Series Biology - Class IX&X Paperback – 2012 by Cengage Learning India (Author)........cant be more specific ;)

Ritwik Jain - 6 years ago

@Ritwik Jain – Thanks.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

Hey, red come to my mboard pls

Swapnil Das - 6 years ago

I am too a 9th grader. Which books should I use for Physics ,Chemistry ?and if possible then please tell about biology also.

dacky maurya - 4 years, 1 month ago

I will hardly recommend u hc Verma physics. Prepare from it. It is really a good book.

Ayush Kumar - 3 years, 3 months ago

For Physics You could refer to University Physics by freedman for theory( It's a calculus based book so having some knowledge of it might be beneficial for you) Then For problems You could move towards HC Verma Concepts Of Physics Volume 01 and 02. Then for chemistry start with ncert 11th and 12th and study it thoroughly then Raymond Chang chemistry might turn as a bane for you ( For some chapters this book is just fantabulous) For physical chemistry RC mukherjee certain topics will be enough for you, Then For Bio Ncert 9,10,11,12 And Then move towards Campbell biology for some hot topics such as genetics,cell biology,Physiology etc. For Maths Solve Your coaching sheets and that would be enough. For Syllabus Try to analyse past year papers Of NSEJS and Injso Like For Physics Mechanics( Except Rotational motion and Some mechanical properties all) , Then Study Waves and Electro dynamics as well as Optics( Ray optics only) For chemistry Focus on physical mainly and From Inorganic Chemical bonding, periodic table and s,p block( Just theory). Apart from all these solve your ncert 9th as well as 10th. Best of luck For IOQJS

majoj pradhani - 4 months ago

Sorry @Rajdeep Dhingra and @Swapnil Das for late response. I am not a biology master and I don't know who tell you such peculiar things.

I would try to help you. For Biology first you must clear the basics. For that learn from NCERT class 9/10/11.Most important chapters are Cell , Diversity , Tissues , Life processes.

There are many books that are especially for NSEJS (I don't know which is the best so I won't recommend ) Solve them.And remember to solve as many previous year paper you can.

You will be able to manage physics , Maths and chemistry quite well.

And try to help me in Mathematics Olympiads. @Krishna Ar , @Ritwik Jain Help us (especially in bio)

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years ago

You've already given NSEJS right? So , what's this @mention for ??

Krishna Ar - 6 years ago

Its not for me but for others.

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years ago

@A Former Brilliant Member – Okk :) Even you can advise Rajdeep btw.

Krishna Ar - 6 years ago

@Krishna Ar – Nah!!!!! Your advise will be much better.

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years ago

Please help. I need a lot help in Biology.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – Well, For Bio, you have to slog it out (I didnt because I didnt clear INJSO) Read basics of 11th after you finish 9th -10th And also read about genomics without fail.

Krishna Ar - 6 years ago

@Krishna Ar – @Rajdeep Dhingra can you share link of other countries national ijso selection papers? or link to study material for ijso (any stage)?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

Please tell some of those "Many books" for NSEJS.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra please send link to other countries ijso selection test papers and material from which you prepared...

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – there aren't any other countries paper available.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – @Rajdeep Dhingra ok....material from which you prepared...or you think that should be done for injso. Can you tell me...if nsejs is cleared....can i appear for inao also?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – yes to 2nd question. For 1st question here.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – inao or injao? @Rajdeep Dhingra

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – INJAO but paper is same as INAO

Rajdeep Dhingra - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – @Rajdeep Dhingra thanks. How many did you score in injso and inao? what marks can ensure selection for camp? also, can you list most important chapters from which questions often come (for each subject)?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – @Kushal Thaman have you tried previous year papers? If yes how much did you score in them ? I too am going to give nsejs this year.

Anurag Bisht - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Anurag Bisht – @Anurag Bisht yes i tried all of them...on an average i am scoring 195-215 marks in each...you? Which state are you giving from?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – @Kushal Thaman I am from Chattisgarh and am getting only 145 on an average as I haven't started bio yet and electricity ....so I didn't attempt their questions

Anurag Bisht - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Anurag Bisht – How many are you scoring?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Anurag Bisht – Especially the 2016 paper. It was so easy, I almost laughed. I scored 221 on it. Please share your marks @Rajdeep Dhingra @Anurag Bisht

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – You are surely to get selected bro

Anurag Bisht - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Anurag Bisht – No. The problem is that there is only 1 seat in Chandigarh but many skilled competitors...Is there any way by which two or more people can qualify from Chandigarh? What is mi? If 2 people clear MI but there is only 1 seat will 2 people be allowed to sit for INJSO? Please explain asap fast, very very urgent... @Rajdeep Dhingra @Anurag Bisht @Swapnil Das @Kalash Verma @Krishna Ar @abhishek alva @Rohit Gupta

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – Everyone above MI qualifies irrespective of the state quota.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – I know that last year's MI was 151. What was it during your time and other years? When was it highest?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – 175 during my year , I think that was the highest till now. But the highest possible MI according to rules possible is 192.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – @Rajdeep Dhingra what is the highest mi till present day?

Anurag Bisht - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Anurag Bisht – yes i want to know that too @Anurag Bisht

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – Means even two people can qualify for chandigarh if 2 clear MI? note that there is only 1 seat

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – Even i want to know this regarding my state chhattisgarh. Please advise.

Anurag Bisht - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Anurag Bisht – thank you. That we will see on seeing the actual paper. If you are already scoring soo much with even studying biology, you are definitely selected.

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – Thanks. But I am totally confused the books and all which have been told to me like Raymond Chang for chemistry are high level. But the past papers aren't that high......

Anurag Bisht - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Anurag Bisht – Yes that is true. I think you should solve allen modules for first stage, they are just like first stage questions

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Anurag Bisht – Have you tried solving those modules? Are you enrolled in allen or attended some workshops?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – I attended a workshop and no I haven't done them😅. I will be starting now

Anurag Bisht - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Anurag Bisht – Yes do them they're good in theory and questions. You can score very much marks if you solve them.

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Anurag Bisht – I attempted 79 questions and got 75 right.

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – Could you please find out the highest MI and MAS that has gone for my state(chhattisgarh)? And what marks usually should be obtained for guaranteeing atleast qualification?

Anurag Bisht - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – what would be the title of the paper? INJAO or INAO? are both the papers same?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – @Rajdeep Dhingra Don't other countries put papers on internet like india does?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra for which ijso stage is Raymond Chang Chemistry required?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – Right from the start.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – It is a really good book, I solved two chapters. It starts off from the basics and progresses towards quality questions.

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

Hi guys i just joined brilliant.org and i am a student of fiitjee would anyone share their coaching institute's study material please?

Ayush Anand - 4 years, 8 months ago

Thanks Swapnil.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra tell me the topics you want to practice in physics and the level you desire to start with, let me see if i can collect some questions for you..!!

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

Sir,first we want to learn from you what topics should we know as prerequisite knowledge. And level 1-4 questions will be fine!

Thank you again!

Swapnil Das - 6 years ago

Sure sir here are the Topics :-

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Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – U go to resonance?

Aditya Chauhan - 6 years ago

@Aditya Chauhan – No, Why ?

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – This book is 9 expert. isn't it? Thats why I thought that

Aditya Chauhan - 6 years ago

@Aditya Chauhan – I don't know. I just got it off a blog.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – It looks like complete course of XI, Now tell me In which topics you are most comfortable with??

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – Sir are you asking to me? ( I hope yes so that I could tell)

Swapnil Das - 6 years ago

@Swapnil Das – yups

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – I am comfortable with all non calculus and trigonometry parts!

Swapnil Das - 6 years ago

@Swapnil Das – That means you are not comfortable with calculus and trigonometry both..!! Do you know the basics of differentiation and trigonometry?? If not then you should learn these first..!!and vectors as well!!

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – Sir I have done full calculus(Single variable only , Doing multi variable) and most of maths Topics. I also have finished 11th Physics CBSE , but not the whole 12th. I just want practice worksheets and questions and more of them(NSEJS Level not CBSE).I know Vectors very well. @Rohit Gupta

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – Have you tried solving HC Verma of XI class ? If yes how comfortable were you?

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – I have finished the mechanics part with ease. I have even done some Irodov questions (Mechanics only).

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – You can start with trying my notes and problems ..

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – I wanted problems of NSEJS , INJSO , IJSO Level. If U could plz make a set and please also mention the total time that should be taken to complete the set.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – Sir is irodov of any help, as I solve from it.

Swapnil Das - 6 years ago

@Swapnil Das – Its difficult to digest that you are able to solve Irodov at this tender age... If you are then kudos to you.. You are extra brilliant..!!
Between I dont think the level of exam will be that difficult that you will need to solve Irodov. Try to cover maximum course rather then covering one portion from many books.

I believe at your level HC Verma should suffice any competition, If you are thorough with it..!!

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – Thank you sir for your appreciation. I have a sad story behind my not learning trigonometry and calculus, it is just bcoz of the influence of other subjects! I will learn them soon! Well I have posted a problem a irodov problem on brilliant too!

Swapnil Das - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – Yes sir I do solve it(But only mechanics).

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – please come to my note-NSEJS help https://brilliant.org/discussions/thread/nsejs-help/

Anurag Bisht - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rohit Gupta – Hello sir! Today I completed trigonometry today, so I am comfortable with it now !

Swapnil Das - 6 years ago

@Rohit Gupta – Sir, is calculus and trignometry usefull for NSEJS?

Anurag Bisht - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – @Rajdeep Dhingra is this resonance material?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – I had answered it before also , that I don't know and I got it off a blog.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – ok...can you send any link for preparation material for ijso or any other stages ?

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Kushal Thaman – HKIJSO_TrainingManual , but I think this is too easy.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – thanks

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – yes these are easy...

Kushal Thaman - 3 years, 9 months ago

@Rohit Gupta (Please help Physics) @Ronak Agarwal (Please help Chemistry) @Sandeep Bhardwaj (Please help Maths) @Kalash Verma (Please help Biology) @Pi Han Goh (Please help Mathematics)

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

Sirs here is the paper

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

hello i have less than a month for writing nsejs. i dont know how to start where to start kindly help

abhishek alva - 4 years, 8 months ago

@Abhishek Alva – Sorry for late reply. Do ncert 9 and 10 and starting of 11 properly.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 4 years, 8 months ago

l have books for you, but they are in spanish :(

Oscar Rojas - 6 years ago

No problem ! BTW Could U post some problems from that ? (Phys,Chem,Bio,Maths)

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years ago

hi,I am from Bangladesh ; also preparing for IJSO ; are there discussion group for IJSO in FB or Forum?

Promise Cadet - 5 years, 3 months ago

We Indians have 3 stages to clear. Our 2nd stage result id due on 14th march the paper is over. Our 2nd stage is known as INJSO. Can you send me the Bangladesh national papers they would of great help to me if I clear the 2nd stage. Please link them in a reply. Have you been for the IJSO-2015 ?

Rajdeep Dhingra - 5 years, 3 months ago

sure,when it'd be uploaded :)

Promise Cadet - 5 years, 3 months ago

@Promise Cadet – Have you been to the IJSO-2015 ?

Rajdeep Dhingra - 5 years, 3 months ago

I have completed almost all syllabus of NSEJS but I am facing lot problem in Biology please help! . My exam is on 20 nov!

Atharva Attarde - 4 years, 7 months ago

Hey guys! Anyone attempted NSEJS exam today?

krishanlal panwar - 4 years, 6 months ago

Which state and how many do you expect ? Was hard or easy ?

P.S - I didn't give , I gave last year but just wanna know how was it this year

Rajdeep Dhingra - 4 years, 6 months ago

I am expected to get 148. How many you got last year?

krishanlal panwar - 4 years, 6 months ago

@Krishanlal Panwar – 173

Rajdeep Dhingra - 4 years, 6 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – How's NSEP Prepping going?

Swapnil Das - 4 years, 6 months ago

@Swapnil Das – Left it for now. Doing Bio nowdays

Rajdeep Dhingra - 4 years, 6 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – What might be the cutoff for NSEJS

Arun Krishna AMS - The Joker - 4 years, 6 months ago

@Rajdeep Dhingra – Do you got selected?

krishanlal panwar - 4 years, 6 months ago

@Krishanlal Panwar – Yes

Rajdeep Dhingra - 4 years, 6 months ago

I got 152 this year guys.Will I be qualified ?

Sai Ram - 4 years, 6 months ago

100%

Sushanth Alla - 3 years, 4 months ago

Hi! This year I gave NSEJS and am expecting close to 190 marks in it. I am from MP and my coaching teachers have assured me that I will get selected for INJSO. But the problem is, I have exceeded the age limit. I spoke to my teachers regarding this and they told me that I will be allowed to write INJSO but will not be allowed to attend the OCSC. They told me that I will be taken up for Astronomy olympiad. Does this really happen? If yes, then how to prepare for astronomy?

Naman Upadhyay - 4 years, 6 months ago

You will give INAO jr , but even if you clear it you won't be allowed to attend 3rd stage for it so no use of giving.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 4 years, 6 months ago

how i prepare math for nsejs?

Gaurav Pranu Shukla - 4 years, 6 months ago

Hello,I am in class 9 and have about 1 year for NSEJS AND INJSO how should i start my preparation for stage 1 and stage 2.

Gaurav Pranu Shukla - 4 years, 6 months ago

Please tell me how to do maths in nsejs ?

Atharva Attarde - 4 years, 5 months ago

I have just came in class 9 . Which books should I do to clear nsejs .Will only 9 and 10 Rd Sharma suffice . Pls tell chapter names .

Anil Singh - 4 years, 2 months ago

For Maths Class 9th and 10th RD Sharma will Suffice , but remeber Physics , Chemistry , Biology will also be asked.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 4 years, 2 months ago

Hi Swapnil, Can you please guide me for NSEJS, hope now you have enough knowledge about it. I am 7th grader. Pls. guide me for topics in Physics, Chemistry and Maths.

Upma Gandhi - 3 years, 4 months ago

Math	Appears as
Remember to wrap math in `\(` ... `\)` or `\[` ... `\]` to ensure proper formatting.
`2 \times 3`	$2 \times 3$
`2^{34}`	$2^{34}$
`a_{i-1}`	$a_{i-1}$
`\frac{2}{3}`	$\frac{2}{3}$
`\sqrt{2}`	$\sqrt{2}$
`\sum_{i=1}^3`	$\sum_{i=1}^3$
`\sin \theta`	$\sin \theta$
`\boxed{123}`	$\boxed{123}$