Probability Misconception

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Recently people had discussion in Brilliant-Lounge on a probability problem which is:

In a family of 3 children, what is the probability that at least one will be a boy?

Some of them believe that 34\frac 34 is the correct answer while the others believe that the correct answer is 78\frac 78.

Everyone is invited to come up with their response along with the explanation. It will be fun and help us a lot to upgrade our knowledge engine further.

Thanks!

#Combinatorics

Note by Sandeep Bhardwaj
5 years, 3 months ago

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Let BB represent a boy and GG represent a girl.Then,

Sample Space , S={BBB,BBG,BGB,GBB,BGG,GBG,GGB,GGG}S =\{BBB,BBG,BGB,GBB,BGG,GBG,GGB,GGG\}

(Probability of having at least 11 boy) =1= 1 - (Probability of having only girls (no boys))=1181-\frac{1}{8}(only 11 case out of 88 cases)=78\frac{7}{8}

So According to me, correct answer is 78\boxed {\frac{7}{8}}.

Note:-

BBG,BGB,GBBBBG,BGB,GBB are different cases because their relative ages (order of birth) are different in each case.

(Same for BGG,GBG,GGBBGG,GBG,GGB)

Alternate Thinking Process:-

P(B)=P(G)=12P(B)=P(G)=\frac{1}{2}

(Probability of having at least 11 boy) =1= 1 - (Probability of having only girls (no boys))=112×12×12=78=1-\frac{1}{2}\times \frac{1}{2}\times \frac{1}{2}=\boxed{\frac{7}{8}}

Yash Dev Lamba - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Yes you are right. This is the same approach what I had.

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 3 months ago

Nice approach @Yash Dev Lamba

Atanu Ghosh - 5 years, 2 months ago

it's an easy one :P let the birth of boy be success and girl be failure ( i'm not being an anti-feminist :P) the answer would be 3c1+3c2+3c3/(2^3)=7/8 ! easy enough :P

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 3 months ago

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lol.

Swapnil Das - 2 years, 8 months ago

I agree with @Yash Dev Lamba

Probability can lead to amazing paradoxes. Here is a very well known probability question often misunderstood:

A family has two children. What is the probability that they are both sons, given that a) At least one of them is a son? b) the elder child is a son?

Agnishom Chattopadhyay - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Ya , parodoxes created by probability are probably the best.

(a)1/3 (b)1/2

Harsh Shrivastava - 5 years, 3 months ago

Simple conceptual learning condtitonal probability Probability Rocks By- YDL

Yash Dev Lamba - 5 years, 3 months ago

@Nihar Mahajan @Sharky Kesa

What do you guys think? I would be great if you participate in this discussion as you were playing a major role in the slack discussion. Thanks!

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 5 years, 2 months ago

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The Family cares about getting Boy, not about getting a young boy or an old boy. So, how does having two younger daughters and an elder son different from having a younger son and two elder daughters ?

Vishal Yadav - 5 years, 2 months ago

How 3/4 will come?

Shyambhu Mukherjee - 5 years, 2 months ago

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if blindly consider BBG,BGB,GBB same and BGG,GBG,GGB also same then prob. is 3/4 which is incorrect.

Yash Dev Lamba - 5 years, 2 months ago

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Thanks for explaining. A wrong answer is more important than a right.

Shyambhu Mukherjee - 5 years, 2 months ago

Take the complementary probability, the chance that no boys are picked. For this to happen, all girls must be picked, so the probability is (1/2)^3 = 1/8. Every other case has at least one boy, so the probability that at least one boy is chosen is 1 - 1/8 = 7/8.

Alexander Koran - 5 years, 2 months ago

Ans should be 7/8 as if we remove the case of no boys then the remaining will be atleast 1 boy i.e 1-(1/2)^3= 7/8 ☺

Rajat Jain - 5 years, 2 months ago

But there is a large assumption that boys and girls are given birth to with 0.5 probability each! That's quite huge an assumption, and it would allow any answer to be correct...

Aloysius Ng - 5 years, 2 months ago

The Family cares about getting Boy, not about getting a young boy or an old boy. So, how does having two younger daughters and an elder son different from having a younger son and two elder daughters ?

Vishal Yadav - 5 years, 2 months ago

I feel like the answer is 1/5

Department 8 - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Can you please give some explanation supporting your answer?

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Duh!! It is 4/5 because in a family of 5 (3 children 2 parents) then there is at least 1 women so at least 1 boy is 4/5

PS: I am weak in probability

Department 8 - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Department 8 It's only about the children, not the parents. So consider a family of 3 children (assuming total members as 3) and then find out the probability that at least one of them is a boy. Thanks!

Don't worry. Keep practicing. You will soon be a master in combinatorics. ¨\ddot \smile

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Sandeep Bhardwaj The answer is 3/4

Pawan pal - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Pawan Pal There are 4 possibilities - 1 boy , 2 boys , 3 boys and no boy . so at least 1 boy so the answer is 3/4 Am I correct ? Sandeep sir

Pawan pal - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Pawan Pal What I think is that BGG , GBG, GGB would be same so I count them as 1. Are we considering order of birth as well ?

Pawan pal - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Pawan Pal If we replace chilren with coins, the answer remains the same but that maybe a better way to tell you why order is necessary.

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 2 months ago

@Pawan Pal yes, we are considering although it is not mentioned in question but it is understood (I think) to consider order of birth.

Yash Dev Lamba - 5 years, 3 months ago

@Pawan Pal No. The correct answer is 7/8.

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Sandeep Bhardwaj Ohkk sir I thought order won't matter .

Pawan pal - 5 years, 2 months ago
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