RMO Inequality Practice

If a,b,cR+a,b,c \in \mathbb{R}^{+} , such that abc=1abc=1 , then prove that cycabcyca\displaystyle\sum_{cyc} \dfrac{a}{b} \geq \sum_{cyc} a

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5 years, 8 months ago

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Multiplying by abcabc and making the right side homogenous, it suffices to prove: a2c+b2a+c2b(abc)23(a+b+c)=a53b23c23+a23b53c23+a23b23c53a^2c + b^2a + c^2b \geq (abc)^{\frac{2}{3}}(a+b+c) = a^{\frac{5}{3}}b^{\frac{2}{3}}c^{\frac{2}{3}} + a^{\frac{2}{3}}b^{\frac{5}{3}}c^{\frac{2}{3}} + a^{\frac{2}{3}}b^{\frac{2}{3}}c^{\frac{5}{3}} By AM-GM you know: a2c+a2c+ab23a53b23c23a^2c + a^2c + ab^2 \geq 3a^{\frac{5}{3}}b^{\frac{2}{3}}c^{\frac{2}{3}} b2a+b2a+bc23a23b53c23b^2a + b^2a + bc^2 \geq 3a^{\frac{2}{3}}b^{\frac{5}{3}}c^{\frac{2}{3}} c2b+c2b+ca23a23b23c53c^2b + c^2b + ca^2 \geq 3a^{\frac{2}{3}}b^{\frac{2}{3}}c^{\frac{5}{3}} Add them and you are done.

Alan Yan - 5 years, 8 months ago

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How and why did you develop such approach....It's not obvious at all.....Plz. provide some better suggestions...

Anubhav Mahapatra - 3 years, 8 months ago

i think we can make subsitutions... a = x/y, b = y/z and c = z/x

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 8 months ago

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I recommend you to solve it completely and then post it.If you have some thoughts/ideas , you can post them after a complete solution is posted.

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 8 months ago

Also , if in your method , you are stuck some where , you are welcome to show your working.

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 8 months ago

I don't think such a substitution is not allowed. Take the example of 1/2 , 3/4 , 8/3. This is not an example like a=x/y,b=y/z,c=z/x.

Shrihari B - 5 years, 6 months ago

Can I post my solutions now? I used MG-MA (reversed).

Johanz Piedad - 5 years, 8 months ago

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Post it after one or two days.

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 8 months ago

You can post it now :)

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 8 months ago

what about the inequality posted by me ? it's hard try to solve it.

Shivam Jadhav - 5 years, 8 months ago

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I tried it but I didn't get it. I think its too tough for RMO level. You can post a solution there (if you have).

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 8 months ago

Apply AM GM(twice)

Gagan Reddy - 2 years, 9 months ago

Does cycab\displaystyle\sum_{cyc} \dfrac{a}{b} mean ab+bc+ca\dfrac{a}{b} +\dfrac{b}{c} + \dfrac{c}{a} or ab+bc+ca+ba+cb+ac\dfrac{a}{b} +\dfrac{b}{c} + \dfrac{c}{a} +\dfrac{b}{a} +\dfrac{c}{b} + \dfrac{a}{c} ??

Yash Mehan - 4 years, 10 months ago

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The first one is only cyclic . The second is symmetric.

Shyaam Ganesh - 1 year ago

This can be proved using AM-GM only

ab+bc+ca3ab×bc×caab+bc+ca3a+b+c3abca+b+c3\large{\frac { a }{ b } +\frac { b }{ c } +\frac { c }{ a } \ge 3\sqrt { \frac { a }{ b } \times \frac { b }{ c } \times \frac { c }{ a } } \\ \frac { a }{ b } +\frac { b }{ c } +\frac { c }{ a } \ge 3\\ \\ a+b+c\ge 3\sqrt { abc } \\ a+b+c\ge 3}

Dividing the new equation you will get the inequality mentioned in the question or reverse. But reverse is not acceptable because any great variation in a,b,ca,b,c will not satisfy it. Sorry Nihar for posting the full solution.

Department 8 - 5 years, 8 months ago

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I don't think you can divide the inequalities. For example (exaggerated), 21 2 \geq 1 2000000000000001 200000000000000 \geq 1 Dividing the first inequality by the second yields an incorrect inequality :\ Check out my solution.

Alan Yan - 5 years, 8 months ago
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