Let x,y,zx, y, zx,y,z be positive real numbers . Prove that:
xy+z(y+z)2+yz+x(z+x)2+zx+y(x+y)2≥34 \displaystyle \frac{x^{y+z}}{(y+z)^2}+\frac{y^{z+x}}{(z+x)^2}+\frac{z^{x+y}}{(x+y)^2}\geq \frac{3}{4} (y+z)2xy+z+(z+x)2yz+x+(x+y)2zx+y≥43
I always confused how can I solve inequality with variable-power on it. Appreciate your help to solve this problem for sure :)
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I thought of this on my own but I saw that Cody Johnson has already shared it.
So, showing that fff is convex for the interval [0,S] ( Take second-order derivative or the 'definition' method)
Applying Jensen's inequality for f(a)=aS−aS−a2f(a) = \frac{{a}^{S-a}}{{S-a}^{2}}f(a)=S−a2aS−a,
f(x)+f(y)+f(z)≥3x+y+z3f(x) + f(y) + f(z) \geq 3\frac{x+y+z}{3}f(x)+f(y)+f(z)≥33x+y+z
≥3S3\geq 3\frac{S}{3}≥33S
≥3(S3)2S32S32\geq 3\frac{{(\frac{S}{3})}^{\frac{2S}{3}}}{{\frac{2S}{3}}^{2}}≥332S2(3S)32S
≥3(S3)2S−634\geq 3\frac{{(\frac{S}{3})}^{\frac{2S-6}{3}}}{4}≥34(3S)32S−6 --------- 1
Now, we need to find the minimum value of (S3)2S−63{(\frac{S}{3})}^{\frac{2S-6}{3}}(3S)32S−6. Taking derivative of it w.r.t. S and equating to 0,
(S3)2S−63(2S−63S+23ln(S3))=0{(\frac{S}{3})}^{\frac{2S-6}{3}}(\frac{2S-6}{3S} + \frac{2}{3}ln(\frac{S}{3})) = 0(3S)32S−6(3S2S−6+32ln(3S))=0 [ln(b) is the logarithm base e of b]
So, either (S3)2S−63=0{(\frac{S}{3})}^{\frac{2S-6}{3}} = 0(3S)32S−6=0, which is not possible as S>0S > 0S>0
or 2S−63S+23ln(S3)=0\frac{2S-6}{3S} + \frac{2}{3}ln(\frac{S}{3}) = 03S2S−6+32ln(3S)=0
After some bashing, this can be written as,
S(ln(S3))=3−S⇒ec=ecS(ln(\frac{S}{3})) = 3 - S \Rightarrow {e}^{c} = \frac{e}{c}S(ln(3S))=3−S⇒ec=ce [for c = 3S\frac{3}{S}S3], which is only possible for c = 1.
Hence, S=3S = 3S=3.
Substituting in 1,
f(x)+f(y)+f(z)≥3(33)2∗3−634f(x) + f(y) + f(z) \geq 3\frac{{(\frac{3}{3})}^{\frac{2*3-6}{3}}}{4}f(x)+f(y)+f(z)≥34(33)32∗3−6
which is just
f(x)+f(y)+f(z)≥34f(x) + f(y) + f(z) \geq \frac{3}{4}f(x)+f(y)+f(z)≥43
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@Cody Johnson I hope I didn't copy and if I did, then I really didn't mean it!
Wow, this is so obvious now that I read your solution... :(
nice solution @Kartik Sharma
We know that AM≥GMAM \ge GMAM≥GM and they are equal when x=y=z=1x=y=z=1x=y=z=1. Therefore,
xy+z(y+z)2+yz+x(z+x)2+zx+y(x+y)23≥(xy+z(y+z)2)(yz+x(z+x)2)(zx+y(x+y)2)3\dfrac {\dfrac {x^{y+z}}{(y+z)^2} + \dfrac {y^{z+x}}{(z+x)^2} + \dfrac {z^{x+y}}{(x+y)^2} } {3} \ge \sqrt [3] {\left( \dfrac {x^{y+z}} {(y+z)^2} \right) \left( \dfrac {y^{z+x}}{(z+x)^2} \right) \left( \dfrac {z^{x+y}}{(x+y)^2} \right) }3(y+z)2xy+z+(z+x)2yz+x+(x+y)2zx+y≥3((y+z)2xy+z)((z+x)2yz+x)((x+y)2zx+y)
xy+z(y+z)2+yz+x(z+x)2+zx+y(x+y)2≥3xy+zyz+xzx+y(x+y)2(y+z)2(z+x)23\dfrac {x^{y+z}}{(y+z)^2} + \dfrac {y^{z+x}}{(z+x)^2} + \dfrac {z^{x+y}}{(x+y)^2} \ge 3 \sqrt [3] {\dfrac {x^{y+z}y^{z+x} z^{x+y}} {(x+y)^2(y+z)^2(z+x)^2} }(y+z)2xy+z+(z+x)2yz+x+(x+y)2zx+y≥33(x+y)2(y+z)2(z+x)2xy+zyz+xzx+y
xy+z(y+z)2+yz+x(z+x)2+zx+y(x+y)2≥3x13(y+z)y13(z+x)z13(x+y)[(x+y)(y+z)(z+x)]23\dfrac {x^{y+z}}{(y+z)^2} + \dfrac {y^{z+x}}{(z+x)^2} + \dfrac {z^{x+y}}{(x+y)^2} \ge \dfrac {3x^{\frac {1}{3} (y+z)}y^{\frac {1}{3} (z+x)} z^{\frac {1}{3} (x+y)}} {[(x+y)(y+z)(z+x)]^\frac{2}{3}} (y+z)2xy+z+(z+x)2yz+x+(x+y)2zx+y≥[(x+y)(y+z)(z+x)]323x31(y+z)y31(z+x)z31(x+y)
Equality occurs when x=y=z=1x=y=z=1x=y=z=1:
⇒xy+z(y+z)2+yz+x(z+x)2+zx+y(x+y)2≥3˙1˙1˙1[2˙2˙2]23=34\Rightarrow \dfrac {x^{y+z}}{(y+z)^2} + \dfrac {y^{z+x}}{(z+x)^2} + \dfrac {z^{x+y}}{(x+y)^2} \ge \dfrac {3\dot{} 1\dot{}1\dot{}1} {[2\dot{}2\dot{}2]^\frac{2}{3}} = \dfrac {3}{4}⇒(y+z)2xy+z+(z+x)2yz+x+(x+y)2zx+y≥[2˙2˙2]323˙1˙1˙1=43
I don't see how you proved the inequality... You just manipulated it a bit and then claimed that equality happens at x=y=z=1x=y=z=1x=y=z=1.
@Mardokay Mosazghi I'll try to solve it. I don't usually tackle problems with variable exponents like this one though.
EDIT: I honestly have no idea how to prove this. Even when assuming x=y=zx=y=zx=y=z, it's pretty non-trivial to prove that the minimum is when x=y=z=1x=y=z=1x=y=z=1. I'm guessing that this inequality cannot be proved using elementary techniques.
Uhm Let a = x + z, b = y + z, and c = x + y?
@Rindell Mabunga – That's a good idea, to substitute something in. However your substitution (called Ravi's substitution) is only applicable if x, y, and z are the sides of a triangle.
Daniel, you are right. I thought I was using the theorem. Can anyone help?
Let s=x+y+zs=x+y+zs=x+y+z and f(x)=xs−x(s−x)2f(x)=\frac{x^{s-x}}{(s-x)^2}f(x)=(s−x)2xs−x. Confirm that fff is convex on 0<x<s0<x<s0<x<s. Apply Jensen's inequality.
I'm not sure if this is correct, but I'm pretty darn sure… can't confirm because I'm on my phone
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@Daniel Liu Can you help us with this problem?
Put x =1 and then 0 it means limit are satisfying. Rest I don't know
why do you do this for x only, please elaborate.
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Yes its easy u put all x.y.z 1 to prove equality and gv counter example by taking all zero which is not a poitive integer. Hence inequality is not proved on other then positive.. And as it is a polynomial it will form a ring hence close under both operation so inequality is proved..
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I thought of this on my own but I saw that Cody Johnson has already shared it.
So, showing that f is convex for the interval [0,S] ( Take second-order derivative or the 'definition' method)
Applying Jensen's inequality for f(a)=S−a2aS−a,
f(x)+f(y)+f(z)≥33x+y+z
≥33S
≥332S2(3S)32S
≥34(3S)32S−6 --------- 1
Now, we need to find the minimum value of (3S)32S−6. Taking derivative of it w.r.t. S and equating to 0,
(3S)32S−6(3S2S−6+32ln(3S))=0 [ln(b) is the logarithm base e of b]
So, either (3S)32S−6=0, which is not possible as S>0
or 3S2S−6+32ln(3S)=0
After some bashing, this can be written as,
S(ln(3S))=3−S⇒ec=ce [for c = S3], which is only possible for c = 1.
Hence, S=3.
Substituting in 1,
f(x)+f(y)+f(z)≥34(33)32∗3−6
which is just
f(x)+f(y)+f(z)≥43
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@Cody Johnson I hope I didn't copy and if I did, then I really didn't mean it!
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Wow, this is so obvious now that I read your solution... :(
nice solution @Kartik Sharma
We know that AM≥GM and they are equal when x=y=z=1. Therefore,
3(y+z)2xy+z+(z+x)2yz+x+(x+y)2zx+y≥3((y+z)2xy+z)((z+x)2yz+x)((x+y)2zx+y)
(y+z)2xy+z+(z+x)2yz+x+(x+y)2zx+y≥33(x+y)2(y+z)2(z+x)2xy+zyz+xzx+y
(y+z)2xy+z+(z+x)2yz+x+(x+y)2zx+y≥[(x+y)(y+z)(z+x)]323x31(y+z)y31(z+x)z31(x+y)
Equality occurs when x=y=z=1:
⇒(y+z)2xy+z+(z+x)2yz+x+(x+y)2zx+y≥[2˙2˙2]323˙1˙1˙1=43
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I don't see how you proved the inequality... You just manipulated it a bit and then claimed that equality happens at x=y=z=1.
@Mardokay Mosazghi I'll try to solve it. I don't usually tackle problems with variable exponents like this one though.
EDIT: I honestly have no idea how to prove this. Even when assuming x=y=z, it's pretty non-trivial to prove that the minimum is when x=y=z=1. I'm guessing that this inequality cannot be proved using elementary techniques.
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Uhm Let a = x + z, b = y + z, and c = x + y?
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Daniel, you are right. I thought I was using the theorem. Can anyone help?
Let s=x+y+z and f(x)=(s−x)2xs−x. Confirm that f is convex on 0<x<s. Apply Jensen's inequality.
I'm not sure if this is correct, but I'm pretty darn sure… can't confirm because I'm on my phone
@Deepanshu Gupta @Sandeep Bhardwaj @Sanjeet Raria @Pranjal Jain @abdulrahman khaled
@Daniel Liu Can you help us with this problem?
Put x =1 and then 0 it means limit are satisfying. Rest I don't know
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why do you do this for x only, please elaborate.
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Yes its easy u put all x.y.z 1 to prove equality and gv counter example by taking all zero which is not a poitive integer. Hence inequality is not proved on other then positive.. And as it is a polynomial it will form a ring hence close under both operation so inequality is proved..