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@Mahdi Raza- I have proved the equation (in rough not on brilliant) : (∑i=0jai)p=∑b0=0j∑b1=0j∑b2=0j...∑bp−1=0jab0ab1ab2...abp−1 where p∈Z
Here's a visual that might help you see how the property works:
The grid shows the multiplication of (a+b+c+d) with (a+b+c+d), and each term is put as a row or column header. Each cell in the grid is then the product of its row and column header.
There is reflective symmetry along the diagonal of the grid, so each term along the diagonal (a2, b2, c2, and d2) appears once, and each of the other terms (ab, ac, ad, bc, bd, and cd) appears twice because they have a reflection.
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Yes, I saw that, and it is very good, but I was answering @Mahdi Raza's question if a similar method (of using the grid) can be created for (a+b+c+d+...)3.
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Actually, the preface of that daily challenge has the answer. Can you access the archive? If not I'll help you with a screenshot for that
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@David Vreken, Superb!! Yeah you're right, we would need 3D visualization which is indeed cumbersome (and messy as well to show so many terms). Thanks for proving these!! Can I use this idea to make a video for (∑a)2 and (∑a)3, in case i make one.
@Mahdi Raza
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I assume you mean the YouTube Channel with some of my math lectures? I made that for my students when we had to switch to online learning for the quarantine. There's nothing dazzling (like animations) on it, but just some good basic high school math lessons. :-)
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I hope you are enjoying the puns, too!
Yes, you can use that idea to make a video. It's not original to me, anyway, and at least the two-dimensional grid is a method I found in some textbook (I can't remember which one, though).
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By the way, I sometimes get a notification when you comment on an old daily challenge problem, but since I don't have a Premium account I can't read them if the daily challenge problem is expired (they usually expire after about a week). So I'm sorry that I'm not responding to those comments!
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Ohh, totally forgot about that. No problem at all, I was just commenting on how great (actually BRILLIANT) your solutions were. Especially those with the animations. I was not on brilliant for a year so i was exploring the archives section. Pretty great work done only on M.S. paint by you. Thanks for making those!
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This isn't true. Set a=b=1. You get (1+1)2=(12+12)+(1×1), which is obviously false.
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What about n>1?
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What about it? I've shown a counterexample. What else is there?
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a=b>1.
My question wasWhat's your answer to that?
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a=b=2. What do you get?
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16=12
I have now understood. I'll tell @Mahdi Raza
No no no.. I've added a clarification of what i meant @Pi Han Goh
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Yup, that's what I assumed. My answer still holds.
Whoops.. Sorry @Pi Han Goh and @Yajat Shamji.. Forgot a 2 in there
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multinomial theorem.
Read up@Zakir Husain, @Mahdi Raza needs your help...
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@Yajat Shamji, @Mahdi Raza - It is easy to prove, I'll write a note on it's proof. Just wait for sometime!
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I said I'm out!
@Mahdi Raza- I have proved the equation (in rough not on brilliant) : (∑i=0jai)p=∑b0=0j∑b1=0j∑b2=0j...∑bp−1=0jab0ab1ab2...abp−1 where p∈Z
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If you put p=2 you get
∑b0=0j∑b1jab0ab1=a02+a0a1+a0a2...+a0aj+a1a0+a12+a1a2+a1a3...+a1aj+a2a0+a2a1+a22+a2a3...=(a02+a12+a22...aj2)+(a0a1+a0a2...+a0aj+a1a0+a1a2+a1a3...+a1aj...)=∑i=0jai2+∑k=0j∑l=0jakal
@Mahdi Raza see here
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Hmm.. it seems very elaborative but it's hard to see/understand.
Here's a visual that might help you see how the property works:
The grid shows the multiplication of (a+b+c+d) with (a+b+c+d), and each term is put as a row or column header. Each cell in the grid is then the product of its row and column header.
There is reflective symmetry along the diagonal of the grid, so each term along the diagonal (a2, b2, c2, and d2) appears once, and each of the other terms (ab, ac, ad, bc, bd, and cd) appears twice because they have a reflection.
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Lovely proof!! Thanks for sharing. This is by far the most easiest I’ve seen.
@David Vreken, i was thinking whether something similar can be created for:
(a+b+c+d+…)3
(∑a)3
∑a means cyclic
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@Mahdi Raza see my comments, there i proved an equation for any power p
You can show that using a cube, but it starts to get large and cumbersome. Here are the 4 different layers of the 4×4×4 cube showing (a+b+c+d)3:
which shows that:
(a+b+c+d+...)3=(a3+b3+c3+d3+...)+3(a2b+a2c+a2d+ab2+b2c+b2d+...)+6(abc+abd+acd+bcd+...)
(∑a)3=∑a3+3∑a2b+6∑abc
Unfortunately, trying to show a fourth power or higher using this method is extremely complicated because it needs more than three dimensions.
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@Mahdi Raza's question if a similar method (of using the grid) can be created for (a+b+c+d+...)3.
Yes, I saw that, and it is very good, but I was answering@Zakir Husain, can you provide a proof for your general-power solution?
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this question
Yes I'll but before that I'm more interested in areas of different regions rememberedLog in to reply
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here also try the Bonus given in the last.
See my new note(∑a)2 and (∑a)3, in case i make one.
@David Vreken, Superb!! Yeah you're right, we would need 3D visualization which is indeed cumbersome (and messy as well to show so many terms). Thanks for proving these!! Can I use this idea to make a video forP.S. I found your YouTube Channel as well, nice!
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this one. It's good, i watched one or two.
YeahAnd, Can I use this idea to make a video for (∑a)2 and (∑a)3, in case i make one.
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Yes, you can use that idea to make a video. It's not original to me, anyway, and at least the two-dimensional grid is a method I found in some textbook (I can't remember which one, though).
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"Do you think this is right?"
"I don't know, is it 90 degrees" lol
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