Tau (Pseudo-Wiki)

τ\large\tau is defined as 2π2\pi and if you don't know what π\pi is, its not the sweet treat, I can assure you.

π\pi is defined as the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. This means - π=circumferencediameter\pi = \dfrac{\text{circumference}}{\text{diameter}}

\(\pi\) Visualized :) π\pi Visualized :)

Now, back to τ\large\tau, it is 2π2\pi. This means - τ=2×circumferencediameter or circumferenceradius\tau = \dfrac{2 \times \text{circumference}}{\text{diameter}} \ \text{or} \ \dfrac{\text{circumference}}{\text{radius}}

The first 1010 digits of π\pi(sometimes written as 'pi' and pronounced 'pie') go like this - 3.1415926533.141592653 \ldots

And the first 1010 digits of τ\large\tau(sometimes written as 'tau' and pronounced 'tau') are twice that - 6.2831853076.283185307 \ldots

Since τ\large\tau is 2×2 \times an irrational number(π\pi), it is also irrational.

But here comes the big question, why waste another Greek Letter, to define it as 22 times an already existing number?


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More about τ\large\tau

τ\large\tau is the 1919th letter of the Greek Alphabeet and has a value of 300300 in Greek Numerals.

Hi, I'm Tau and this is Capital Tau. I am \(2\pi\) even though I look  like half of \(\pi\). Capital Tau looks like T, but don't tell him that, he has very sensitive feelings :) Hi, I'm Tau and this is Capital Tau. I am 2π2\pi even though I look like half of π\pi. Capital Tau looks like T, but don't tell him that, he has very sensitive feelings :)

The Greek Letter is used in many aspects of Math and Science, some of which are listed below -

  • Used to represent the Golden ratio (1.618...), although ϕ\phi(phi) is more common.

  • Represents Divisor function in number theory, also denoted d\text{d} or σ0\sigma_{0}.

  • Tau is an elementary particle in particle physics.

  • Tau in astronomy is a measure of optical depth, or how much sunlight cannot penetrate the atmosphere.

  • It is the symbol for tortuosity in hydro-geology.

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Advantages of τ\large\tau

π\pi is found in many of the famous formula's and identity. But sometimes, π\pi is preceded by a 22, and we all know by now, that 2π=τ2\pi = \large\tau.

Here are the well known formula's where 2π2\pi can be replaced with τ\large\tau, making the formula simpler and more elegant -

Integral over space in polar coordinates -

  • 2π00f(r,θ) r dr dθ\displaystyle\int_{\color{#D61F06}{2\pi}}^{0} \int_{\infty}^{0} f(r,θ) \ r \ dr \ dθ

Gaussian (normal) Distribution -

  • 12πσe(xμ)22σ2\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{\color{#D61F06}{2\pi}}\sigma} \text{e}^{\dfrac{(x-\mu)^{2}}{2 \sigma^{2}}}

NthN^{th} roots of unity -

A picture of Tau celebrating its many advantages A picture of Tau celebrating its many advantages

  • zn=1z=e2πinz^{n} = 1 ⇒ z = e^{\dfrac{\color{#D61F06}{2\pi} \color{#333333}i}{n}}

Cauchy's Integral Formula -

  • f(a)=12πiγf(z)zadzf(a) = \dfrac{1}{\color{#D61F06}{2\pi} \color{#333333} i} \displaystyle\oint_{\gamma} \dfrac{f(z)}{z-a} dz

Fourier Transform -

  • f(x)=F(k)e2πikxdkf(x) = \displaystyle\int_{- \infty}^{\infty} F(k) e^{\color{#D61F06}{2\pi} \color{#333333} i k x} dk

  • F(k)=f(x)e2πikxdxF(k) = \displaystyle\int_{- \infty}^{\infty} f(x) e^{- \color{#D61F06}{2\pi} \color{#333333} i k x} dx

Riemann Zeta Function -

  • ς(2n)=k=112kn          =B2n2(2n)!(2π)2n, n=1,2,3,......\varsigma (2n) = \displaystyle\sum_{k = 1}^{\infty} \dfrac{1}{2^{kn}} \\ \\ \ \text{ } \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ = \dfrac{|B_{2n}|}{2(2n)!} (\color{#D61F06}{2π} \color{#333333})^{2n}, \text{ } n = 1,2,3,......

The Kronecker limit formulas -

  • E(τ,s)=πs1+2π(γlog(2)log(yη(τ)2))+O(s1)E(\tau ,s)={\pi \over s-1}+\color{#D61F06} 2\pi \color{#333333} (\gamma -\log(2)-\log({\sqrt {y}}|\eta (\tau )|^{2}))+O(s-1)

  • Eu,v(τ,1)=2πlogf(uvτ;τ)qv2/2E_{{u,v}}(\tau ,1)=-\color{#D61F06} 2\pi \color{#333333} \log |f(u-v\tau ;\tau )q^{{v^{2}/2}}|

I have highlighted the 2π2\pi's in red. If replaced with τ\large\tau, these formula's could be simpler. This is only one of the advantages of τ\large\tau.

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Another advantage that is very useful is in Trigonometry.

When dealing with Unit Circles in Trigonometry, we usually use Radians as our angle measure. As already stated, π\pi radians is a 180180^{\circ} while τ\large\tau radians is a full turn or 360360^{\circ}. Due to this, using τ\large\tau is much easier.

When we use π\pi, 112\dfrac{1}{12} of the unit circle is actually π6\dfrac{\pi}{6} Radians, as shown in the picture below. This is cause for major confusion.

But if we use τ\large\tau all our problems vanish, and everything makes sense again. 112\dfrac{1}{12} of the unit circle is τ12\dfrac{\large\tau}{\normalsize 12} radians, as shown in the picture below.

This really shows that τ\large\tau might actually be better to use than π\pi. Yet, we all have our weaknesses, so let's look at the Disadvantages of τ\large\tau next.

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Representing τ\large\tau using Limits

  • τ=32limn(n+1)k=1nk2(2k+1)2\large\tau \normalsize = 32 \displaystyle\lim_{n\to\infty} (n+1) \prod_{k=1}^{n} \dfrac{k^{2}}{(2k + 1)^{2}}

Comment more representations that I can add here!\large \text{Comment more representations that I can add here!}

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τ\large\tau(Tau) vs π\pi(Pi) Conflict

The Pi vs Tau Conflict is a very long conflict between people who love π\pi and people who love τ\large\tau.

It is a battle to find which of the 22 irrational numbers is better and makes our calculations easier.

An illustration of the epic battle :) An illustration of the epic battle :)

The basic arguments given by both teams were as follows -

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Team Tau against π\large \underline{\text{Team Tau against }\pi}

π=CircumferenceDiameter\pi = \dfrac{\text{Circumference}}{\text{Diameter}} while τ=CircumferenceRadius\large\tau = \normalsize \dfrac{\text{Circumference}}{\text{Radius}}

A circle is usually defined by its radius and the radius is something that mathematicians are generally more interested in than the diameter.

The formula for a circle's circumference is also simplified with τ\large\tau

C=τrC = \large\tau\normalsize r

τ\large \tau Radians is equal to 360360^{\circ}, while π\pi Radians is equal to 180180^{\circ}. This value of Pi makes it a bit confusing in dealing with Trigonometry using Unit Circles, but Tau makes it look like easy as pie (pun intended)

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Team Pi against τ\large \underline{\text{Team Pi against }\large \tau}

Pi has been around since a long time. The number Tau also has its flaws. For example - The formula for the area of a circle is made even more complex by using τ\large\tau

A=πr2=τr22A = \pi r^{2} = \dfrac{\large\tau\normalsize r^{2}}{2}

Also, redefining the circle constant differently and replacing it will destroy the beautiful Euler Identity - eiπ+1=0e^{i\pi} + 1 = 0

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This conflict is as long as the amount of digits in Pi and Tau. I will not take sides and either number isn't necessarily better. This is only a fragment of the conflict. This conflict has been around for a few years and hasn't officially ended yet.

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External Links

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Related Wikis on Brilliant

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Try some problems related to π\pi and τ\large \tau

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More Digits

These are the first 100100 digits of Tau, but if you want more, go here -

6.28318530717958647692528676655900576839433879875021164194988918461563281257241799725606965068423413596.2831853071795864769252867665590057683943387987502116419498891846156328125724179972560696506842341359 \ldots

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Image Credits - Thanks to https://www.wikipedia.org/, for the 'Visualising Pi' image, the 'capital and small tau' image and the 'Pi vs Tau' image and to https://tauday.com/tau-manifesto for the Unit Circle images in 'Advantages of Tau'.

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so tau is double the value of pi even though the symbol is half of pi interesting

NSCS 747 - 10 months, 1 week ago

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Yes, a fun fact @Nathan Soliman :)

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what do we use tau to calculate

NSCS 747 - 10 months, 1 week ago

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@Nscs 747 Trigonometry graphs and functions that require unit circle method, because tau radians is 360 degrees :)

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How? Please comment this in Latex Club @Páll Márton

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 1 week ago

Can you please update?

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I've completed Advantages of Tau. Only Disadvantages left. It'll be done by next week :)

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No offence, but when I first read your reply, it said you replied 3 weeks, 3 days ago.>:)

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@Lâm Lê Yes, I am not the most punctual of people, coz i'm super busy. I know it sounds like a lame excuse, but I am focusing a bit more on my programming, so I am really busy. I'm not sure when this will be complete, mostly because I keep adding new things and get new ideas. Hopefully by october end, but I will make no promises.

A Former Brilliant Member - 8 months, 1 week ago

Also, redefining the circle constant differently and replacing it will destroy the beautiful Euler Identity e^(pi * i) +1 = 0

Actually, with tau, it becomes even better, but yea

Nikolas Кraj - 5 months, 1 week ago

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its the argument the pi-ers make. they're stupid lol

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Agreed 🥂

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@Nikolas Кraj You mean

'Agreed 🥂'

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@A Former Brilliant Member Ah Italic, I forgot my commenting standards. Agreed 🥂

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@Nikolas Кraj lol i meant the spelling :P

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@Nikolas Кraj I'm starting to think you're making errors on purpose lol

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@A Former Brilliant Member Heh probably; mostly it is that I type fast.

What conclusion does that idea lead you to though?

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@Nikolas Кraj It sounds funny when it's miss speweld

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@Frisk Dreemurr lmao yez itzz doezz

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@Nikolas Кraj You're saving time by typing fast coz you have something to do? Or someone...🤣

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@A Former Brilliant Member Someone? to do? I wouldn't be here at all 😂 What did you think I would do first? To log in in her computer? 😂😂

Damn where does your mind go?

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@Nikolas Кraj haha a lot of places lol

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@Frisk Dreemurr - I'm making a wiki for fun :)

How is it?

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Nice @Percy Jackson, I never noticed any note on the debate of Tau and Pi until today :)

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@Frisk Dreemurr Thanks, the debate is actually a pretty big thing :)

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@A Former Brilliant Member @Frisk Dreemurr - I added a rating system LOL :)

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@A Former Brilliant Member does it have a number count

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@Nscs 747 What? @Nathan Soliman

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@A Former Brilliant Member the rating system

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@Nscs 747 No, its just for fun :)

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@A Former Brilliant Member do you want to hear something stanley hudson said?

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wow, you put a lot of work into that.
and i love the comments in the "rating" section

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Thanks! I really need to take some time to complete this, but life isn't kind to you after 9th grade lol

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@A Former Brilliant Member Wait, you are in the ninth grade? You said me you were sixteen lol

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@Frisk Dreemurr Plus, I read your "discussion" in the answer to life, the universe, and everything

And to sum it all up

eww

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@Frisk Dreemurr when you are married long enough, it would be more like 96 ;-)

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@A Former Brilliant Member the idea is just lying back to back ;)

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@Num Ic As in during labour? Why am I so oblivious to why you guys are laughing?

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@Num Ic No, sorry, I had to laugh

It isn't good, but I am still laughing

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@Frisk Dreemurr ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
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I feel bad for anyone who experienced a divorce, even though I'm still laughing.

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@Nikolas Кraj I still don't get what he means...

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As once a (smartest mthfker in the universe) man said: " Love is just chemistry that couples animals into breeding, it reaches a peak then fades away ..."

I heard he beated Zeus singlehandedly. The man's a certified god.

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@Nikolas Кraj 😂😂😂 (What did he beat Zeus at? Impregnating women? lmao)

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@A Former Brilliant Member its from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rolfwv1djjI

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@Nscs 747 ya I've watched that one. nigahiga is one of the best yt comedy channels lol

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@Nscs 747 ...that is funny, but i don't get the first part...

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@Nscs 747 girlfriend go:

oof

Frisk Dreemurr - 5 months, 1 week ago

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@Frisk Dreemurr yea well Ryan Higa has a peculiar 'talent' in making girls go oof lol

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lmao

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@A Former Brilliant Member Cue the music

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@Nscs 747 lol and the smiling ryan moving backwards on the treadmill lol

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@Nscs 747 lol the face he makes at the end of each joke is hilarious lmao

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@Nikolas Кraj Love all the jokes here 😂

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@Nikolas Кraj lol you should watch nigahiga, its amazing!

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 months, 1 week ago

@Frisk Dreemurr Girls are so easily 'ewwed' by things...

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 months, 1 week ago

@Frisk Dreemurr I am sixteen. Life just gets harder from ninth is what I am saying.

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@A Former Brilliant Member Oh, okay

What grade are you in now?

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@Frisk Dreemurr Figure it out yourself, I told you my age :P

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@A Former Brilliant Member when they told us in school that we should enjoy our time bcs life will never again be that easy, i didn't believe it. but they were completely right :(

num IC - 5 months, 1 week ago

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@Num Ic true that :(

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@A Former Brilliant Member on one hand childhood sucks cus i wanna be free and do whatever i want adulthood sucks because i am free but i have to start paying for stuff because my 18 year free trial of life has expired

NSCS 747 - 5 months, 1 week ago

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@Nscs 747 lmao

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 months, 1 week ago

@Num Ic Though you are limited by your parents to do what you want to do. Everything has its ups and downs :|

Nikolas Кraj - 5 months, 1 week ago

@A Former Brilliant Member tau and pi is just a matter of definition, but the values are the same in every country.
what troubles me more is that a billion has different meanings in different countries.

num IC - 5 months, 1 week ago

@Páll Márton - I was looking at your formatting guide while making this, its really useful, thanks :)

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BTW go to my feed to see my latest note on buttons. You can add that to your guide @Páll Márton

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 1 week ago

@Yajat Shamji - Look at this :)

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 1 week ago

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I really like it. However, I am impartial to both π\pi and τ\tau so I am neutral in this war/conflict.

Yajat Shamji - 10 months, 1 week ago

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I wrote that I'm neutral but I'm actually a Tauist LOL. Glad you like it :)

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@A Former Brilliant Member Tau-ist here too 8-)

Nikolas Кraj - 5 months, 1 week ago

@Yajat Shamji - There is an astronomy point in 'More About Tau' :)

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 1 week ago

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Thanks.

P.S. 55 stars!

P.S.S. I challenge you to find geometric sums and limits involving π\pi that result in τ\tau and geometric sums and limits involving τ\tau that result in π\pi.

Yajat Shamji - 10 months, 1 week ago

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@Yajat Shamji I'll try :) @Yajat Shamji

P.S Thanks you for 5 stars!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 1 week ago

@Yajat Shamji Done @Yajat Shamji, I added a few integral formula's that I could think of. I still don't have a limit though, I'll work on that :)

A Former Brilliant Member - 9 months, 1 week ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member You know I'll make one...

Yajat Shamji - 9 months, 1 week ago

@A Former Brilliant Member I found some (but the result's π\pi so you'll need to multiply the entire limit by 22):

Yajat Shamji - 9 months, 1 week ago

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@Yajat Shamji I need something where I don't need to multiply actually. There are many Pi limits - Pi limits

A Former Brilliant Member - 9 months, 1 week ago

@Yajat Shamji @Yajat Shamji - I added a limit formula that doesn't need me to multiply the limit by 2 and do some crazy math, but I don't know its name.

A Former Brilliant Member - 9 months, 1 week ago

no, the beautiful Euler identity would not disappear, since e^i tau - 1 = 0 (but I am a pie fan)

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Its what they argue, its the truth. It may not be correct, but its an arguement

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