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Find the largest prime factor of 165+134172216^5 + 13^4 - 172^2 . Any ideas?

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I saw this same question on the AoPS forum (I believe it's from an ARML?), and realized no one has posted a solution, so if we're still interested,

165+1341722=220+1692172216^5 + 13^4 - 172^2 = 2^{20} + 169^2 - 172^2

S=220+3(341) S = 2^{20} + -3(341)

S=2201023=220210+1 S = 2^{20} - 1023 = 2^{20} - 2^{10} + 1

S=230+1210+1 S = \frac{2^{30} + 1}{2^{10} + 1}

S=1+4(27)41+210 S = \frac{1 + 4(2^7)^{4}}{1 + 2^{10}}

We use Sophie-Germaine's identity to factorize a4+4b4=(a2+2b2+2ab)(a2+2b22ab) a^4 + 4b^4 = (a^2 + 2b^2 + 2ab)(a^2 + 2b^2 - 2ab) and thus,

S=(21528+1)(215+28+1)210+1 S = \frac{ (2^{15} - 2^8 + 1)(2^{15} + 2^8 + 1)}{2^{10} + 1}

S=13611321 S = 13 \cdot 61 \cdot 1321 and 1321 1321 is prime.

Ameya Daigavane - 5 years ago

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At the end, how did you factorize S? I mean, for me it is not obvious that 1321 is a factor.

Mateo Matijasevick - 5 years ago

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You can get that 13 13 is a factor easily.
You can actually compute the terms in the numerator and note that 210+1=2541 2^{10} + 1 = 25 * 41 so you know what factors to look out for.

Ameya Daigavane - 5 years ago

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@Ameya Daigavane I point that out from the beginning. It is easier to compute the original expression... but that's not the case of the problem.

Mateo Matijasevick - 5 years ago

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@Mateo Matijasevick It may be easier to compute, but not easier to factorise. We already have split the numerator into two factors, and we also know 25,13 25, 13 and 4141 are factors of their product - certainly that's progress?

Just for the sake of completeness, 215+28+125=3302525=1321 \frac{2^{15} + 2^8 + 1}{25} = \frac{33025}{25} = 1321

Ameya Daigavane - 5 years ago

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@Ameya Daigavane Got it. Good solution!

Mateo Matijasevick - 5 years ago

Thanks for this great solution. Yes it was from the Arml in which I, for the first time, participated (I'm a sixth grader going into seventh.) I was trying to set up possible factors using Chinese remainder theorem systems. Are there any good approaches using this method? Either way, your solution is the most elegant.

Sal Gard - 4 years, 12 months ago

Clearly 13 is a prime factor... does it help anything?

Mateo Matijasevick - 5 years ago

What about the largest? I know there is a big one.

Sal Gard - 5 years ago
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