"which came first: the chicken or the egg?"

Now think about it, if the egg came first who will warm the egg? So naturally a chicken has to come first. In a religious point of view, the well-known question seemed to have been regarded as settled in the Christian world, based on the origin story of the Bible. In describing the creation of animals, it allows for a first chicken that did not come from an egg.

In a scientific point of view you would you would say the BIG BANG created everything. Now if the BING BANG created everything which came first? Should be the egg right? Or was it chicken AND egg?

In a normal person's point of view, logically the chicken should come first because if no one warms the egg how can it hatch?

So everybody, I want to see your opinion on this classic problem!!!!

Cheers,

Bithiah

#Logic

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ASAP Science (YT) suggest that an early 'proto-chicken' that was basically where the chicken evolved from created an egg that was technically a chicken egg due to zygote mutation. Then a chicken was born from the egg. Thus, the egg came first. Then they go on to prove that the 'proto-chicken' and chicken, must be the same species, effectively disproving the first theory. I'd go with egg due to multiple reasons I will not state here (so as to not upset vegetarians lol). According to the factor you mentioned, the egg would win, as warmth can come not only from a mama chicken's butt, but (haha!) also from other places @Bithiah Koshy. Unending conflict, I side with egg, then sleep peacefully without breaking my head over it :P

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 months, 1 week ago

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Lmao! "Then sleep peacefully without breaking my head over it " is a wonderful phrase you got there! I bet philosophers' always have a crack on the head.

Bithiah Koshy - 5 months, 1 week ago

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lol yeah! imagine thinking about life all the time...how depressing it would be...that's why not-thinking is better lol

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 months, 1 week ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Mmmmm...well if you think...at least you aren't dumb! Haha!

Bithiah Koshy - 5 months, 1 week ago

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@Bithiah Koshy lol that is cruel logic lmao

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 months, 1 week ago

I side with the chicken coming first.

Sir Livingwood - 5 months ago

I say that the chicken came first because it lays the egg !! The chicken lays the egg and warms it to hatch into a chick which will grow into another chicken. And according to the Biblical theory of creation God created the animals and then gave them the blessing to reproduce meaning that the chicken was created and then laid the egg.

Sir Livingwood - 5 months ago

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That is true to me too. But other people will say that if there is no God, then how do you know which egg is fertilized and will develop into a chicken?? For example the eggs we eat are only from a female hen.

Bithiah Koshy - 5 months ago

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The egg can't exist without the hen laying it but yes, in order to develop into a chicken, it must be fertilized by the cock so for the egg to hatch into a chick which will grow into a chicken, it needs both chicken meaning the chicken came first. Also when a hen is incubating the eggs it simply incubates all the eggs, which ever is fertilized will hatch which ever isn't fertilized won't.

Sir Livingwood - 5 months ago

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@Sir Livingwood Yes so you are saying to chickens (male and female) came first.

Bithiah Koshy - 5 months ago

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@Bithiah Koshy Yes

Sir Livingwood - 5 months ago

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@Sir Livingwood Mhmm k! :)

Bithiah Koshy - 5 months ago

I have a question which came first, human or monkey

Most of us know the answer to this and so I side with egg too with the same philosophy

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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They say that birds came from the dinosaurs which could fly, ( idk any of their names) I am pretty sure if we had to make a sharp distinction on when a dinosaur transformed into a bird, it is very likely that it happened when the chicken was still in the egg and not a full grown dinosaur suddenly transforming into a bird

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

By The Way didn't Charles Darwin denounce or dismiss his own theory of evolution sometime before his death ?

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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And I personally believe that animals and other living things can evolve But! not into different species !

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

I believe that God created different species and some evolved, but NOT!! into different species

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Nathan Bolt Khiisa I agree with him. They didn't evolve into different species!! But it's okay my opinion! :P

Bithiah Koshy - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Do you know something, the crows u see in the city and the crows u see in the jungle are completely different species, so different they can’t mate to produce any offspring, not even an infertile one

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Jason Gomez Can’t be a co-incidence they look alike, and also the human DNA and a chimpanzees DNA match up to 90% surely that isn’t some co-incidence

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Jason Gomez Hmmm, maybe it's because there in the same family like wolfs and dogs Also humans and chimpanzees are both primates we eat almost the same food Different species with similarities.

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Sir Livingwood But wolves and dogs can mate and produce fertile offspring

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 1 week ago

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@Sir Livingwood Yea that was told in the movie and book, "The Call of the Wild". Check it out.

Bithiah Koshy - 4 months, 1 week ago

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@Bithiah Koshy The dog Buck and a wolf at the end have dog and wolf pups.

Bithiah Koshy - 4 months, 1 week ago

@Sir Livingwood This is new to me, I thought that only infertile offspring were produced in the breeding of two different species and it was possible to produce fertile offspring just that they were still to be found out

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 1 week ago

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@Jason Gomez Well dogs to me are basically domesticated wolves

Sir Livingwood - 4 months ago

@Jason Gomez So you believe in revolution. Makes sense then with that philosophy.

Bithiah Koshy - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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Yes, without the r though, pretty sure everyone here believes that the earth revolves around the sun

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

So @Percy Jackson and @Jason Gomez, are you saying that the creature that laid the chicken egg wasn't fully a chicken but a creature with almost all the adaptations of a chicken and a few even weaker ? So is the egg considered as a chicken egg because a chicken (or chick) it is going to hatch from it. But I think a chicken egg is called so because a chicken laid it and a chick is going to hatch from it.

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I call an egg, chicken egg if a chick hatches out of it, no matter what laid it

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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Ok so what you say laid it was NOT a true chicken but a primitive version of a chicken right ?

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Sir Livingwood Yes :)

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Jason Gomez But aren't they basically the same creature ?

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Sir Livingwood Nope :) if there was a nuclear accident, the offspring produced by creatures affected by it will mostly be very different from the parent, normal genetic mutation can also do the same just that it takes time for such a big change to happen, but it will surely happen and if the offspring is superior to the parent it will be the reason of the downfall of the parent species

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 1 week ago

@Sir Livingwood But it could be more different than that also, have you heard of ligers

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Jason Gomez No, I have not heard of ligers

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Sir Livingwood They are a mix of tiger and lion, infertile tho

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Jason Gomez I thought it was IMPOSSIBLE !! for animals of different species to mate.

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Sir Livingwood Well it is possible some times, but the offspring is almost sure to be infertile

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

@Sir Livingwood So according to the evolution theory the egg came first but according to the Biblical theory the chicken came first

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Sir Livingwood U don’t know god might have made the chicken come out of the egg

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Jason Gomez When you read Genesis 1:20–25 you will see that God first created the creatures THEN! gave them the blessing of reproduction. Meaning that the chicken came first.

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Sir Livingwood Are you sure the chicken was there since the beginning of time

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Jason Gomez I believe that the chicken was created along with all other birds.

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Sir Livingwood yea same cuz you know, I am a God-believer (Christian).

Bithiah Koshy - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

@Jason Gomez I only believe what’s written in the Bible and it hasn’t ever been mentioned that a chicken came out of egg nor did that god make a chicken with the other birds,

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Jason Gomez Well a chicken is a bird so it was created along with all the other birds. Because it is a bird.

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Sir Livingwood The jungle crow and the house/city crow have for sure come from the same ancestor, now they are birds does that mean they were also created from the beginning, they have evolved from a common ancestor into two different species

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

@Jason Gomez But it does say in the Bible that on the fifth day - creatures that live in the sea and creatures that fly were created. the sixth day - animals that live on the land and finally humans, made in the image of God were created. So I think there were many chickens along with many other birds.

Bithiah Koshy - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Bithiah Koshy Do you believe god made the dinosaurs? Bcz I do and I believe Adam and Eve came to earth a longggg time after it was created, chickens honestly would have been an easy snack for the dinosaurs, I don’t see any way how they could have survived unless they were many other creatures easier to catch than it

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Jason Gomez No i believe the dinosaurs were here first. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. Then God wiped out dinosaurs and created human life. God did let us know everything so somethings shouldn't be dug up.

Bithiah Koshy - 4 months, 1 week ago

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@Bithiah Koshy Dinosaurs are animals also...

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 1 week ago

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@Jason Gomez Maybe they were also there and got exctinct like some other species

Sir Livingwood - 4 months, 1 week ago

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@Sir Livingwood So the theory you are putting down is that all animals were present since the beginning and some died off, none of them evolving into a different species

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 1 week ago

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@Jason Gomez My theory is that it took millions of earth years for Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit and get thrown down to earth ( Earth years have been clearly mentioned as time might run very differently in heaven, Adam and Eve might have been immortal in the garden) and that the dinosaurs evolved into different creatures, I think this very well accepts with the carbon dating of dinosaur fossils which say they are millions of years old, and one more thing I also believe Adam and Eve had come to earth when the monkeys had started evolving into a human like creature

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 1 week ago

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@Jason Gomez I believe Adam and Eve were created on the earth and were to live forever but they ate the forbidden fruit, so they were to die but they still lived looong. But the creatures were created days before them and also eventually died but all that must have happened lots of years ago

Sir Livingwood - 4 months ago

@Jason Gomez I don't think monkeys ever evolved into humans. And doesn't the theory say that the animals that didn't adapt or evolves died out.

Sir Livingwood - 3 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Sir Livingwood Same, I don't think so.

Bithiah Koshy - 3 months, 3 weeks ago

@Jason Gomez I have never seen a theory till date which says the animal which evolved in a favourable manner died out(human destruction neglected)

Jason Gomez - 3 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Jason Gomez Oh sorry I meant "the animals that didn't adapt or evolve died out"

Sir Livingwood - 3 months, 3 weeks ago

@Sir Livingwood It could have very well come much later

Jason Gomez - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

@ eggs, in terms of eggs of the earliest creatures on earth (The question didn't say chicken egg so). as the creatures involve, they turn into what we say "chicken", but how about a really long time ago when chicken's ancestors were not counted as "chicken"? The fact is, they still lay eggs.

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