Which mathematician / scientist do you admire the most?
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I must say, unfortunately, I have not researched many mathematicians/scientists enough to give an honest opinion of them. I think they are all great enough just for loving math and the logical world. Some tops though:
1) Calvin L
2) Peter T
3) The rest of the Brilliant team (which really encompasses and ties with #1 and #2, just that those two get mentioned a lot. Seriously, thank you unnamed people.)
4) The whole Brilliant community of users
5) Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, because I read a biography about him and he has a funny first name.
I assure you my contributions to science(geology) are nearly irrelevant and my contributions to mathematics non-existent. We are flattered nontheless :)
I would beg to differ. I don't know about your geographical intelligence, but as for mathematic contributions you are wrong.
You, through Brilliant, have inspired countless individuals, most notably youths, who are now ready to tackle the field of mathematics themselves. You have helped start a website that reaches not only thousands today but potentially thousands more in the future. You have the privilege of talking to the minds of tomorrow. You have the privilege of vicariously experiencing hundreds of discoveries that We will make. You are among the most admired people today for what you've done, no matter how indirectly you've done it.
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Oh, pshaw, it's not a compliment by me. It was merely a worded expression representing the summary of the sentiment of all Brilliant users.
After all, they did sign up for "A swashbuckling work environment and a chance to change the world."
consider me as well....i think it is not a coincidence that all Indian Mathematicians have Ramanujan as their favorite ....but I also like Shakuntala Devi and Aryabhatta....
Euler's Formula. From that formula we get what is hailed as the most beautiful equation in existence, Euler's Equation (or Identity, more accurate that way).
One of the most impactful and prolific geniuses of our time.
He made major contributions to a number of fields, including mathematics (foundations of mathematics, functional analysis, ergodic theory, geometry, topology, and numerical analysis), physics (quantum mechanics, hydrodynamics, and fluid dynamics), economics (game theory), computer science (Von Neumann architecture, linear programming, self-replicating machines, stochastic computing), and statistics.
Hmm I am fickle about favorites, but right now my polymath hero of the moment is probably Militun Milankovitch. Not someone you read about everyday, but I am fond of his work.
That's one part, yes. The other is that, imho, mathematical or scientific genius is a gift and outside anyone's control. How people use their gifts and live their life is what I feel is important. Hence Besso, who never got the credit he deserved, remained humble and not bitter towards his friend, Einstein, and stayed a "good man" with his wife and family. For those who don't know the story of Einstein and Besso, see here.
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Well sir you are a mathematician... And a very intelligent one... And you are so young still so gifted.. That's why "sir." My younger brother is 13 and hardly does simple mensuration calculations.... I wonder if I know half as much as you.. Keep it up!! I am sure brilliant is proud to have you sir..
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He won the Peter O'Halloran Certificate in the AMC this year in the Upper Primary category.(He is one of two winners in the primary category,the other is in Middle Primary)
Well two awesome people I know are #1 Piyushkumar Palan Sir and #2 My friend Darshak Mehta.. Both extremely fast in thinking and new Brilliant users...
thanks kshitij....i don't deserve mention on this page. Having said that i am the fan of my own abilities, grateful for that and also fortunate to know people with higher degree n variety of abilities in same realm and many other realms. Its humbling.
I like Kronecker, who saw equations as pieces of poetry or art, He also believed that "God made the integers, and everything else is man's attempt to improve on God." A somewhat controversial man - but I really admire his passion!
I request Brilliant to start survey about this. In a survey, there will be a list of scientists which people can add (names only.. no comments) and other people can either vote up existing or add new name to the list if their favorite is not in the list. This way we will see a clear picture. Can you do it Calvin sir?
I am very much inspired by Nikola Tesla whose many of the great discoveries most people don't know about. He invented the "Alternating Current". He was the one who invented Radar, Remote control, Neon lightning, modern electic motor, wireless communications and many many more things but never got the credit. He even built a tower which could provide free wireless energy to the whole Earth but it was demolished before its completion, due to lack of funding and no profit.
To know about more of his inventions and discoveries, you can go to this link - http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla
As brilliant an engineer as he was, I think he was a bit of a crackpot (http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/2322/teslas-theory-of-gravity) when it came to physics. I'm also not sure how much energy that scheme could really have supplied, although I'd love to read a more in depth analysis of the design.
Among mathematicians I like S.Ramanujan because of his exceptional contributions in almost every branch of mathematics even without any formal training. He had a great insight and made huge mental leaps in arriving at a result.
Among scientists as you see from my profile picture, I like Einstein.
My all time favourite mathematician is SRINIVASA RAMANUJAN. In the present mathematicians I like DR. ARTHUR BENJAMIN from Harvey Mudd college, California. I would like to see him in real at least once
Hi! I'm a new member of brilliant..about the question I would like to mention two of them,Mr.Ramanujan and Mr.Stephen Hawking...both give me inspiration...
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Those 2 are indeed gods in their fields. I would love to have a goddess visit me in my sleep and whisper amazing math equations to me :) Of course, those equations were related to ones that Ramanujan was already innately aware of, and his brain was making various connections while sleeping.
Lots of them... Definitely Euler, Wiles and Perelman on your list. The others I admire as well but these three more so. I would also include Feynman, Schrodinger and Dirac. Perelman is admirable for his modesty, Wiles for his willingness to work on one problem until solution and Euler for his amazing creativity with mathematics.
It's almost impossible to imagine a world without zero. It's even crazier to think that people could do math for centuries without that concept!
In a similar vein, it's almost impossible to imagine a world without irrational numbers. Yet, during the time of Pythagoras, believing in the existence of irrational numbers can get you killed.
yes irrational numbers are important but zero is more important we all know that computer language is in the form of zeros and ones . computer not works
but it was Brahmagupta who gave it a definite symbol. Aryabhata or Brahmagupta whoever it may be the contribution of indians in the field of mathematics is really outstanding
Evariste Galois. Galois was such a young mathematician yet he created a new field in mathematics, what would happen if he had lived longer, would the world be different today in aspects such as technology?
So many greats to choose from, but who could go past Euler. The beauty of some of his theorems and identities, the leaps of logic and intuition in number series, and the sheer amount of mathematics that was discovered by just one person is amazing.
It's amazing how much of the intellectual achievements of antiquity from India, Persia, Greece, and Rome were only accessible and preserved for European consumption due to the further scholarship and innovations of Islamic thinkers.
Hahaha.. why do you relate religion and science? All religions will doom to absurdities as science will progress more and more.. by the way.. Religions have already become absurdities for me!
Isaac Newton (for gravity and calculus(he called it fluxion)),Albert Einstein (general and special theory of relativity), Stephen Hawking (his fundamental work into black hole mechanics) and Peter Higgs (for the discovery of the God Particle, Higgs-Boson, the particle that gives mass.
I am truly surprised that no one has mentioned my favorite mathematicians: Alexander Grothendieck and Paul Erdos. They published some of the most beautiful and influential papers in recent times and were true badasses.
Richard Feynman - I believe he understood quantum mechanics better than anyone. (y)
Carl Friedrich Gauss - Divergence theorem in calc, also did a lot of work on other fields.
Gottfried Leibniz - I think he should as famous as Isaac Newton but meh... X'D
My top three. :'-D Could say more but, there are lot of 'em.
As for math, i'd say Ramanujam, he was a 'self-taught' mathematician with no formal coaching whatsoever. As for scientists, i'd say Richard Feynman. Some people say he probably had an IQ greater than that of Einstein's ! (plus he was not only a physicist but also a great author and philosopher; he was 'spiritual')
As for mathematicians who weren't yet mentioned, I'd like to mention Andrey Nickolaevich Kolmogorov, one of the greatest mathematicians of 20th century. He made a huge impact in various areas of mathematics, such as topology, math logic, mechanics, probability theory, etc.
mine is also Srinivasa Ramanujan. He lived till the age of 32 and if he had lived for more years then he could make more contribution to his fields even more what Guass, Newton, Einstien etc. made, Also he didnt have any formal training in mathematics.Also Aryabhatta who gave 0
Well, Mines is Leonada Da Vinci ...He is the awesomest guy....Made the sketches of Helicopters centuries ago it was made....No one has been able to compete him....Myths are that that he was in kind of alien stuff and met aliens...Which made him so darn intelligent...
i have many favorites but from the old days (1400-1850) i prefer Gauss,Euler,Lagrange,Fourier,Poincare,Weierstrass,Riemann and from the modern (1900-present) ones i like John Nash,John von Neumann,David Hilbert,Grigori Perelman and Terence Tao.
One of my favorite scientists at the moment is Rosalind Franklin. She found out that the DNA structure was actually a double helix. The structure of DNA is important because it affects in DNA copying, mitosis, etc. Here is the famous picture of what she found:
actually... this is my story...
I haven't loved any mathematician or scientist truly... instead, I loved their contributions... it may be a thankless act, but they are not alive now... But the best was of Georg cantor...
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I must say, unfortunately, I have not researched many mathematicians/scientists enough to give an honest opinion of them. I think they are all great enough just for loving math and the logical world. Some tops though:
1) Calvin L
2) Peter T
3) The rest of the Brilliant team (which really encompasses and ties with #1 and #2, just that those two get mentioned a lot. Seriously, thank you unnamed people.)
4) The whole Brilliant community of users
5) Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, because I read a biography about him and he has a funny first name.
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guess what? I'm named after that mathematician who has a funny first name ;)
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May Leibniz bless your Calculus!
I assure you my contributions to science(geology) are nearly irrelevant and my contributions to mathematics non-existent. We are flattered nontheless :)
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I would beg to differ. I don't know about your geographical intelligence, but as for mathematic contributions you are wrong.
You, through Brilliant, have inspired countless individuals, most notably youths, who are now ready to tackle the field of mathematics themselves. You have helped start a website that reaches not only thousands today but potentially thousands more in the future. You have the privilege of talking to the minds of tomorrow. You have the privilege of vicariously experiencing hundreds of discoveries that We will make. You are among the most admired people today for what you've done, no matter how indirectly you've done it.
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What a nice compliment by Justin. Way to go Brilliant team.
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After all, they did sign up for "A swashbuckling work environment and a chance to change the world."
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me too !!
me too!!!
He is mine also
consider me as well....i think it is not a coincidence that all Indian Mathematicians have Ramanujan as their favorite ....but I also like Shakuntala Devi and Aryabhatta....
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No offence but Sakuntala Devi as a calculation prodigy.....not a mathematician.....
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The genius who came from humble beginnings, gotta love him
Richard Feynman, who among other things liked physics, math and bongo drums!
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Same here. He was not just a scientist he was a pretty cool dude.
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Yeah, absolutely.
I also support that one
Euler. eix=cos(x)+isin(x)
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Can you please mind telling me what's that ?
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Euler's Formula. From that formula we get what is hailed as the most beautiful equation in existence, Euler's Equation (or Identity, more accurate that way).
God equation...if this does not blow your mind you have no emotions ;)
John von Neumann without a doubt for me.
One of the most impactful and prolific geniuses of our time.
He made major contributions to a number of fields, including mathematics (foundations of mathematics, functional analysis, ergodic theory, geometry, topology, and numerical analysis), physics (quantum mechanics, hydrodynamics, and fluid dynamics), economics (game theory), computer science (Von Neumann architecture, linear programming, self-replicating machines, stochastic computing), and statistics.
Hmm I am fickle about favorites, but right now my polymath hero of the moment is probably Militun Milankovitch. Not someone you read about everyday, but I am fond of his work.
Mr. Zuming Feng for Math, Prof. Walter Lewin for Physics.
I'll pick a scientist. Let's go with Michele Besso.
And all of you go "who?" The better question is "why?"
Schweitzer and Curie are nice too.
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Possibly because of how he influenced other scientists, rather than make direct contributions?
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That's one part, yes. The other is that, imho, mathematical or scientific genius is a gift and outside anyone's control. How people use their gifts and live their life is what I feel is important. Hence Besso, who never got the credit he deserved, remained humble and not bitter towards his friend, Einstein, and stayed a "good man" with his wife and family. For those who don't know the story of Einstein and Besso, see here.
Gauss without any doubt!!. And what's yours Calvin??
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Probably Zi Song mine too
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I'm not a mathematician.
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Why don't you go turn down a Fields medal and a million dollars
What is Zi Song's age??? Is he really 12??? :3
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Well two awesome people I know are #1 Piyushkumar Palan Sir and #2 My friend Darshak Mehta.. Both extremely fast in thinking and new Brilliant users...
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Isn't it exciting to have your friends on Brilliant, and you get to learn from how they think!
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Thanks Calvin L. sir for warm Welcome. Me and my More than 45 of young students and friends enjoy brilliant.org now...U rock !
True sir...
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thanks kshitij....i don't deserve mention on this page. Having said that i am the fan of my own abilities, grateful for that and also fortunate to know people with higher degree n variety of abilities in same realm and many other realms. Its humbling.
Hello Kshitij! :)
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hey Vikram!! How're you??
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mine is the one who I am named after, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz! :D
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Your parents are genius as well. :)
I like Kronecker, who saw equations as pieces of poetry or art, He also believed that "God made the integers, and everything else is man's attempt to improve on God." A somewhat controversial man - but I really admire his passion!
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This is a great addition. Thanks for pointing him out to me Eva.
S. Ramanujan, obviously.
I request Brilliant to start survey about this. In a survey, there will be a list of scientists which people can add (names only.. no comments) and other people can either vote up existing or add new name to the list if their favorite is not in the list. This way we will see a clear picture. Can you do it Calvin sir?
Michio Kaku
I am very much inspired by Nikola Tesla whose many of the great discoveries most people don't know about. He invented the "Alternating Current". He was the one who invented Radar, Remote control, Neon lightning, modern electic motor, wireless communications and many many more things but never got the credit. He even built a tower which could provide free wireless energy to the whole Earth but it was demolished before its completion, due to lack of funding and no profit.
To know about more of his inventions and discoveries, you can go to this link - http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla
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As brilliant an engineer as he was, I think he was a bit of a crackpot (http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/2322/teslas-theory-of-gravity) when it came to physics. I'm also not sure how much energy that scheme could really have supplied, although I'd love to read a more in depth analysis of the design.
Gauss is definitely amazing but my favourite is Ramanujan. I also like Peter Higgs.
Among mathematicians I like S.Ramanujan because of his exceptional contributions in almost every branch of mathematics even without any formal training. He had a great insight and made huge mental leaps in arriving at a result.
Among scientists as you see from my profile picture, I like Einstein.
Mine is Newton :)
Well mine is Ramanujan.... We must count each scientist name in comments
Einstein for sure! I especially like reading his article "On the electrodynamics of moving bodies" I think it's the best way to learn relativity.
Euler by far! Ramanujan is pretty cool too, though.
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I always thought very few people outside India knew about Ramanujan...hmm I guess I am a frog in the well...
Ramanujan, Andrew Wiles and Farmat
Grigori Perelman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman
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Hmm.. really.. we must'nt forget him..
Bernhard Riemann.. I wish he had got 40 more years like Guass in his life..
undoubtedly the king of mathematics is ramanujan
I admire Terence Tao (youngest to participate in the IMOs ever) and Ciprian Manolescu (submitted perfect paper at the IMOs "3 times" consecutively)
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and u too :P
I admire Albert Einstein the most.
My all time favourite mathematician is SRINIVASA RAMANUJAN. In the present mathematicians I like DR. ARTHUR BENJAMIN from Harvey Mudd college, California. I would like to see him in real at least once
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Well....I also like Arthur Benjamin....to be frank...I actually learnt a few tricks from his book...they were awesome....
Richard Feynman!!
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and Tesla
Ramanujan is most popular. Yaaay!
Stephen Hawking is to be admired, who has the capacity to discover the wonders of the universe from a wheelchair? Surely no one else!
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Well..I also do the same...but on the toilet seat( no offense ) :P
Hi! I'm a new member of brilliant..about the question I would like to mention two of them,Mr.Ramanujan and Mr.Stephen Hawking...both give me inspiration...
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Those 2 are indeed gods in their fields. I would love to have a goddess visit me in my sleep and whisper amazing math equations to me :) Of course, those equations were related to ones that Ramanujan was already innately aware of, and his brain was making various connections while sleeping.
Lots of them... Definitely Euler, Wiles and Perelman on your list. The others I admire as well but these three more so. I would also include Feynman, Schrodinger and Dirac. Perelman is admirable for his modesty, Wiles for his willingness to work on one problem until solution and Euler for his amazing creativity with mathematics.
There is no maths without zero we can see calculations based on zero in the book of aryabhatta Who invented zero?
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It's almost impossible to imagine a world without zero. It's even crazier to think that people could do math for centuries without that concept!
In a similar vein, it's almost impossible to imagine a world without irrational numbers. Yet, during the time of Pythagoras, believing in the existence of irrational numbers can get you killed.
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yes irrational numbers are important but zero is more important we all know that computer language is in the form of zeros and ones . computer not works
but it was Brahmagupta who gave it a definite symbol. Aryabhata or Brahmagupta whoever it may be the contribution of indians in the field of mathematics is really outstanding
Evariste Galois. Galois was such a young mathematician yet he created a new field in mathematics, what would happen if he had lived longer, would the world be different today in aspects such as technology?
My favourite right now is Mandelbrot. But it will probably change soon (I had a lot of favourites...........)
Euler with his enormous amount of papers and diverse fields of research! :)
i can't decide between newton and einstein.. they both made such incredible leaps of intuition
So many greats to choose from, but who could go past Euler. The beauty of some of his theorems and identities, the leaps of logic and intuition in number series, and the sheer amount of mathematics that was discovered by just one person is amazing.
Physicists and mathematicians sometimes jest that, in an effort to avoid naming everything after Euler, discoveries and theorems are named after the "first person after Euler to discover it"
Ramanujan is my favorite mathematician
Fakhruddin Razi ror Physic Al Khwarizmi for Mathematic and ISLAMIC Scientist are great!!
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The Islamic thinkers of the middle ages were great indeed! I am particularly fond of Al Khwarizmi. Many co-credit him with the invention of algebra.
It's amazing how much of the intellectual achievements of antiquity from India, Persia, Greece, and Rome were only accessible and preserved for European consumption due to the further scholarship and innovations of Islamic thinkers.
Hahaha.. why do you relate religion and science? All religions will doom to absurdities as science will progress more and more.. by the way.. Religions have already become absurdities for me!
Tesla
Gauss :) By the way how about the computer scientist?
Srinivasa Ramanujan! Stephen Hawking!
My favorite is Lokesh S.... always available no exception.
David Hilbert definitely.
well richard feynman is my favorite i aslo admire john nash and stephen hawking
probably the 7th century indian mathematician Brahmagupta who introduced '0'. I can't even imagine math without 0
as my dear friend kshitij said my sir piyush palan sir and my friend darshak mehta are really good mathematicians ......
Best Mathematicians for Me :
Leonhard Euler - Georg Cantor - Kurt Godel - Alan Turing - John Horton Conway .
Isaac Newton (for gravity and calculus(he called it fluxion)),Albert Einstein (general and special theory of relativity), Stephen Hawking (his fundamental work into black hole mechanics) and Peter Higgs (for the discovery of the God Particle, Higgs-Boson, the particle that gives mass.
Évariste Galois
Donald E. Knuth
favourite scientists- Nikola Tesla, Ludwig Boltzmann mathematician- Gauss, Ramanujan
Fermat :)
I am truly surprised that no one has mentioned my favorite mathematicians: Alexander Grothendieck and Paul Erdos. They published some of the most beautiful and influential papers in recent times and were true badasses.
those are all good mathematician...........but 1.einstein & 2. newton are most preferable to me...
Albert Einstein
Richard Feynman - I believe he understood quantum mechanics better than anyone. (y) Carl Friedrich Gauss - Divergence theorem in calc, also did a lot of work on other fields. Gottfried Leibniz - I think he should as famous as Isaac Newton but meh... X'D
My top three. :'-D Could say more but, there are lot of 'em.
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Can you add a solution to the flight of a housefly.
Einstein and Ramanujan are my favourites
It's Srinivasan Ramanujan
Pi, he is still working his math magic behind the scenes, it is so insperational... I don't think he will ever stop.
Fermat, Euler, Galois, and of course, Gauss..:)
Gauss, Euler !!!!!
James Clerk Maxwell
Ramanujan pascal
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right captain
As for math, i'd say Ramanujam, he was a 'self-taught' mathematician with no formal coaching whatsoever. As for scientists, i'd say Richard Feynman. Some people say he probably had an IQ greater than that of Einstein's ! (plus he was not only a physicist but also a great author and philosopher; he was 'spiritual')
Hey,did anybody start thinking on the millenium prize problems?
Ramanujan and Aryabhatt.
ramanujan
For me its Einstein and Ramanujan.
everiste galois
As for mathematicians who weren't yet mentioned, I'd like to mention Andrey Nickolaevich Kolmogorov, one of the greatest mathematicians of 20th century. He made a huge impact in various areas of mathematics, such as topology, math logic, mechanics, probability theory, etc.
Bill Gosper and John Horton Conway.
aryabhatta
the human
S. Ramanujan
mine is also Srinivasa Ramanujan. He lived till the age of 32 and if he had lived for more years then he could make more contribution to his fields even more what Guass, Newton, Einstien etc. made, Also he didnt have any formal training in mathematics.Also Aryabhatta who gave 0
Newton
MY FAVORITE MATHEMATICIAN IS CLAVIN L.
yeah Peter Higgs GO HIGGS BOSON!!!
Guess who?
But I also love Grigori Perelman!
Classic :Gauss Modern:John Tate
Well, Mines is Leonada Da Vinci ...He is the awesomest guy....Made the sketches of Helicopters centuries ago it was made....No one has been able to compete him....Myths are that that he was in kind of alien stuff and met aliens...Which made him so darn intelligent...
I don't have a favourite scientist, because everyone were equal. The reason for their greatness was "one made it, but others made it better"
Albert einstein..........because he was not good at studying,and become a scientist.:)
aryabhatta.....who else? he played the most important role of giving the concept of 0
Ive got dozens of favourites... Newton, Eistein, Ramanujam, Homi baba... but my current favoruite? my maths teacher.
The scientist that I admire is Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein they are really cool :D
Einstein
isaac Newton and wilhelm leibniz
Ramanujan
My fav scientist is Stephen Hawking
please search john Nash in your computer and then lets talk about that.
Scientist:Issac Newton,Albert Einstein,Nikola Tesla,Stephen Hawking Mathematician:Euclid,Carl Fredrich Gauss,Leonhard Euler,Alan Mathison Turing(also Computer Scientist),Terence Tao
einstein, newton,andrew wiles,peter higgs, grigori perelman,zhang yitang
i have many favorites but from the old days (1400-1850) i prefer Gauss,Euler,Lagrange,Fourier,Poincare,Weierstrass,Riemann and from the modern (1900-present) ones i like John Nash,John von Neumann,David Hilbert,Grigori Perelman and Terence Tao.
Newton, because he changes the view of the world about the most important thing, thinking. That was forgotten by the people of the world at that time.
Many people think that Einstein changes the world, but they did not know the history of the science.
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He did not change the world but changed the way we see it..
Enrico Fermi
ahmed zewil
One of my favorite scientists at the moment is Rosalind Franklin. She found out that the DNA structure was actually a double helix. The structure of DNA is important because it affects in DNA copying, mitosis, etc. Here is the famous picture of what she found:
http://kellytim.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/franklin-typebphoto.jpg
what about ramanujam and aryabhatta u can't miss them out
actually... this is my story... I haven't loved any mathematician or scientist truly... instead, I loved their contributions... it may be a thankless act, but they are not alive now... But the best was of Georg cantor...
ISAAC NEWTON
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*Issac Newton :P
Stephen Hawking
Euler,Gauss and Ramanujan
NEWTON
Andrew Wiles
myself :). jk, Einstein is my favorite
Myself... :D Seriously, don't any of you geniuses love yourselves? :P
RAMANUJAN
of course me!!
Myself XD
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G h hardy
i think its me ...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p