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Algebra Level 5

1 x y + 1 y z + 1 x z \large \dfrac{1}{x-y}+\dfrac{1}{y-z}+\dfrac{1}{x-z}

Let m m be the minimum value of the above expression for reals x > y > z x > y > z given ( x y ) ( y z ) ( x z ) = 300 (x - y)(y - z)(x - z) = 300 .

Given that m m can be expressed as 1 A B C 3 \dfrac{1}{A}\sqrt[3]{\dfrac{B}{C}} where A , B , C A, B, C are positive integers and gcd ( B , C ) = 1 \gcd(B,C)=1 , with B + C B+C minimized.

Find A + B + C A+B+C .


The answer is 13.

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Tanishq Varshney
Jan 9, 2016

Quite frankly, I saw that and solved , @Khang Nguyen Thanh I have a doubt that why on earth is 4 4 multiplied in the second step of the solution not 2 or 3 and why AM-GM is not applicable directly instead of multiplying with 4. Please reply soon.

@Tanishq Varshney : The equality holds iff a = b a=b or a + b 4 a b = 1 a + b \dfrac{a+b}{4ab}=\dfrac{1}{a+b} .

So AM-GM is not applicable directly instead of multiplying with 4 4 .

Khang Nguyen Thanh - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Oh sorry for troubling you, I got it, thanx!!

Tanishq Varshney - 5 years, 5 months ago

I solved it using AM GM but my ans is 110

Akarsh Kumar Srit - 5 years, 4 months ago

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I took x-y = m , and y-z=n. Therefore rearranging the given expression we have ([a+b)^2 + 150/(a+b) + 150/(a+b)]/300. Now by applying Am>=Gm in numerator I got minimum value as 1/10 * (45/2)^1/3. Hence answer 57. Where am I wrong??:(

Aakash Khandelwal - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Aakash Khandelwal I have rechecked my calculations, and the correct answer still be 13 \boxed{13} .

Let x y = a x-y=a and y z = b y-z=b . Thererefore, x z = a + b x-z=a+b .

Note that P = 1 a + 1 b + 1 a + b = 4. a + b 4 a b + 1 a + b P=\dfrac{1}{a}+\dfrac{1}{b}+\dfrac{1}{a+b}=4.\dfrac{a+b}{4ab}+\dfrac{1}{a+b} .

Applying AM-GM here on these five fractions, we get P 5 ( a + b ) 3 256 a 4 b 4 5 P\ge5\sqrt[5]{\dfrac{(a+b)^3}{256a^4b^4}} .

Note that because a b ( a + b ) = 17 ab(a+b)=17 , this is equivalent to P 5 ( a + b ) 7 256 × 30 0 4 5 P\ge5\sqrt[5]{\dfrac{(a+b)^7}{256\times 300^4}} .

On the other hand, 300 = a b ( a + b ) ( a + b ) 3 4 300=ab(a+b)\le\dfrac{(a+b)^3}{4} or a + b 1200 3 a+b\ge\sqrt[3]{1200} .

This implies that P 5 120 0 7 3 256 × 30 0 4 5 = 1 2 5 6 3 P\ge5\sqrt[5]{\dfrac{\sqrt[3]{1200^7}}{256\times 300^4}}=\dfrac{1}{2}\sqrt[3]{\dfrac{5}{6}}

So A = 2 ; B = 5 ; C = 6 A=2; B=5; C=6 and A + B + C = 13 A+B+C=\boxed{13} .

Khang Nguyen Thanh - 5 years, 3 months ago

I also did it using AM-GM...and my ans. Is also 110.

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years, 3 months ago

I have rechecked my calculations, and the correct answer still be 13 \boxed{13} .

Let x y = a x-y=a and y z = b y-z=b . Thererefore, x z = a + b x-z=a+b .

Note that P = 1 a + 1 b + 1 a + b = 4. a + b 4 a b + 1 a + b P=\dfrac{1}{a}+\dfrac{1}{b}+\dfrac{1}{a+b}=4.\dfrac{a+b}{4ab}+\dfrac{1}{a+b} .

Applying AM-GM here on these five fractions, we get P 5 ( a + b ) 3 256 a 4 b 4 5 P\ge5\sqrt[5]{\dfrac{(a+b)^3}{256a^4b^4}} .

Note that because a b ( a + b ) = 17 ab(a+b)=17 , this is equivalent to P 5 ( a + b ) 7 256 × 30 0 4 5 P\ge5\sqrt[5]{\dfrac{(a+b)^7}{256\times 300^4}} .

On the other hand, 300 = a b ( a + b ) ( a + b ) 3 4 300=ab(a+b)\le\dfrac{(a+b)^3}{4} or a + b 1200 3 a+b\ge\sqrt[3]{1200} .

This implies that P 5 120 0 7 3 256 × 30 0 4 5 = 1 2 5 6 3 P\ge5\sqrt[5]{\dfrac{\sqrt[3]{1200^7}}{256\times 300^4}}=\dfrac{1}{2}\sqrt[3]{\dfrac{5}{6}}

So A = 2 ; B = 5 ; C = 6 A=2; B=5; C=6 and A + B + C = 13 A+B+C=\boxed{13} .

Khang Nguyen Thanh - 5 years, 3 months ago

Isn't the condition 300 and not 17?

Shaun Leong - 5 years, 3 months ago

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