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Algebra Level 5

If a , b , c , d > 0 a,b,c,d > 0 with a d , b c a\ge d, b\ge c such that a 2 + c 2 = 9 a^{2}+c^{2}=9 and a c + b d = 7 ac+bd=7 . Find the minimum value of b 2 + d 2 b^{2}+d^{2} upto two decimal places if b 2 + d 2 > 3 b^{2}+d^{2}>3 .


The answer is 5.44.

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Department 8
Sep 22, 2015

By Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality we have

( a 2 + c 2 ) ( b 2 + d 2 ) ( a b + c d ) 2 \large{{ \left( { a }^{ 2 }+{ c }^{ 2 } \right) \left( { b }^{ 2 }+{ d }^{ 2 } \right) }\ge { \left( ab+cd \right) }^{ 2 }}

We will go back to the basics of Chebysev's Identities which stated that if a 1 a 2 a 3 . . . . . . . . a n 1 a n a_{1}\ge a_{2} \ge a_{3}........a_{n-1} \ge a_{n} and b 1 b 2 b 3 . . . . . . . . . b n 1 b n b_{1} \ge b_{2} \ge b_{3}.........b_{n-1}\ge b_{n} .

i = 1 n ( a i ) ( b i ) n i = 1 n a i n × i = 1 n b i n i = 1 n ( a i ) ( b n + 1 i ) n \large{{ \frac { \sum _{ i=1 }^{ n }{ \left( { a }_{ i } \right) \left( { b }_{ i } \right) } }{ n } }\ge \frac { \prod _{ i=1 }^{ n }{ { a }_{ i } } }{ n } \times \frac { \prod _{ i=1 }^{ n }{ { b }_{ i } } }{ n } \ge \frac { \sum _{ i=1 }^{ n }{ \left( { a }_{ i } \right) \left( { b }_{ n+1-i } \right) } }{ n } }

In the question we are given a d , b c a \ge d, b\ge c . Applying Cheybsev's Identity

( a b + c d ) ( a c + b d ) ( a b + c d ) 7 ( a b + c d ) 2 49 \large{\left( ab+cd \right) \ge \left( ac+bd \right) \\ \left( ab+cd \right) \ge 7\\ { \left( ab+cd \right) }^{ 2 }\ge 49}

And from the first equation we have

( a 2 + c 2 ) ( b 2 + d 2 ) ( a b + c d ) 2 ( a 2 + c 2 ) ( b 2 + d 2 ) 49 ( b 2 + d 2 ) 49 9 = 5.44 \large{{ \left( { a }^{ 2 }+{ c }^{ 2 } \right) \left( { b }^{ 2 }+{ d }^{ 2 } \right) }\ge { \left( ab+cd \right) }^{ 2 }\\ \left( { a }^{ 2 }+{ c }^{ 2 } \right) \left( { b }^{ 2 }+{ d }^{ 2 } \right) \ge 49\\ \left( { b }^{ 2 }+{ d }^{ 2 } \right) \ge \frac { 49 }{ 9 } =5.44}

equality holds when a = 27 130 , b = c = 21 130 , d = 49 3 130 \large{a=\dfrac{27}{\sqrt{130}}, b=c=\dfrac{21}{\sqrt{130}}, d=\dfrac{49}{3\sqrt{130}} }

hey what was the discussion going on in fiitjee beside sb 2when we were about to leave

Kaustubh Miglani - 5 years, 8 months ago

lakshay sinha,dont u dare ignore my sir

tomi dfvghj - 5 years, 8 months ago

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i am not a teacher tomi.i am just a student struggling to improve his skills

Kaustubh Miglani - 5 years, 8 months ago

What do you mean?

Department 8 - 5 years, 8 months ago

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he was referring to me.he believes i am his teacher.and well for you did not respond he was too angry

Kaustubh Miglani - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Kaustubh Miglani Give me the link for the respondance.

Department 8 - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Department 8 link to respondance means

Kaustubh Miglani - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Kaustubh Miglani For what he was asking.

Department 8 - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Department 8 he was asking for a reply to comment dated 4 days 3 hrs ago on this page

Kaustubh Miglani - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Kaustubh Miglani Sorry did not saw that. We were shifting to another place and today my internet was restored.

Department 8 - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Department 8 no prob buddy gonna come tomorrow

Kaustubh Miglani - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Kaustubh Miglani Yep what is tomorrow's time table? Bio& Maths?

Department 8 - 5 years, 8 months ago

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Kaustubh Miglani - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Kaustubh Miglani Dude Speaker's not working right now, you should listen to Fire Inside By Gemini.

Department 8 - 5 years, 8 months ago

@Department 8 well lakshay do u have any idea if pacific mall is gonna be open on 2nd october

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Department 8 - 5 years, 8 months ago

Nice solution. In which class you are? Are you a fiitjee student?

Priyanshu Mishra - 5 years, 7 months ago

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he is in 9th along with me and yes he is a fiitjee student

Kaustubh Miglani - 5 years, 7 months ago

To complete your solution, you must also check that equality can occur. In other words, you must show that there actually exist a a , b b , c c , d d such that b 2 + d 2 = 49 / 9 b^2 + d^2 = 49/9 . Here, the values that work are a = 27 130 , b = c = 21 130 , d = 49 3 130 . a = \frac{27}{\sqrt{130}}, \ b = c = \frac{21}{\sqrt{130}}, \ d = \frac{49}{3 \sqrt{130}}.

Jon Haussmann - 5 years, 7 months ago

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