783 Followers Problem

a ( a + b ) ( a + b + c ) ( a + b + c + d ) = 783 a(a+b)(a+b+c)(a+b+c+d)=783

Given that a , b , c , d a,b,c,d are positive integers and that they satisfy the above equation, find their product: a × b × c × d a \times b \times c \times d .

This is part of the set Trevor's Ten

Based off of one of Sualeh Asif's posts.


The answer is 240.

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6 solutions

Trevor Arashiro
Mar 15, 2015

Since a,b,c,d are all positive, ( a + b + c + d ) > ( a + b + c ) > ( a + b ) > a (a+b+c+d)>(a+b+c)>(a+b)>a

If we factor 783 we get

1 3 9 29 1\cdot 3 \cdot 9\cdot 29

3 3 3 29 3\cdot 3 \cdot 3 \cdot 29

1 1 27 29 1\cdot 1 \cdot 27 \cdot 29

Since all are positive, a + b + c + d a + b + c a + b a a+b+c+d\neq a+b+c \neq a+b \neq a , we can eliminate the second and third possibilities.

Thus we have

1 = a 3 = a + b 9 = a + b + c 29 = a + b + c + d \begin{aligned} 1&=a\\ 3&=a+b\\ 9&=a+b+c\\ 29&=a+b+c+d\\ \end{aligned}

Thus some simple algebra yields a = 1 , b = 2 , c = 6 , d = 20 a=1,~b=2,~c=6,~d=20

a b c d = 1 2 6 20 = 240 \therefore abcd=1\cdot2\cdot6\cdot20=\boxed{240}

I agree with what @Prasun Biswas has to say and I also have a better solution to this problem .

Look at the pic below , the Brilliant Team helped me by giving the answer :P

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 3 months ago

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HAHA, of course you would notice that. lol

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 3 months ago

The key point that one needs to note is that since a a is a factor of the LHS expression, it must be a factor of 783 783 . Hence, this motivates us to observe the prime factorization of 783 783 .

Prasun Biswas - 6 years, 3 months ago

Great adaption!!

Sualeh Asif - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Thanks Suelah, yours was much better however. I wanted to make one easier than the rest problem because this set only had hard problems lol.

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Well i am trying to mend that problem. In the first one I underestimated the power of the variables. The mended version is coming soon

Sualeh Asif - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Sualeh Asif I'll be waiting ;)

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 2 months ago

Equivalently, letting a 1 = a a_1=a a 2 = a + b a_2=a+b a 3 = a + b + c a_3=a+b+c a 4 = a + b + c + d a_4=a+b+c+d means that a 1 , a 2 , a 3 , a 4 a_1,a_2,a_3,a_4 is a strictly increasing positive integer sequence such that a 1 a 2 a 3 a 4 = 783 a_1a_2a_3a_4=783

Daniel Liu - 6 years, 3 months ago

Since you "cheated", I'll cheat too! i really did not cheat on this problem tho i really did not cheat on this problem tho

(haha nope, I really did not cheat)

Justin Quintos - 6 years, 2 months ago

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since you both cheeted, so would I......!

Zeeshan Ali - 6 years, 2 months ago

include<iostream>

using namespace std; int main() {

for (int i=0;i<100;i++)
    {
    for (int j=0;j<100;j++)
        {
        for (int k=0;k<100;k++)
            {
            for (int l=0;l<100;l++)
                {
                    if (i*(i+j)*(i+j+k)*(i+j+k+l)==783)
                        {
                            if (i!=0 && j!=0 && k!=0 && l!=0)
                                {
                                cout<<i<<" "<<j<<" "<<k<<" "<<l<<endl;
                                cout<<i*j*k*l<< endl;
                                break;
                                }
                        }
                }                   
            }               
        }           
    }

}

Zeeshan Ali - 6 years, 2 months ago
Gamal Sultan
Mar 18, 2015

(a + b + c + d) > (a + b + c) > (a + b) > a

783 = 1 X 3 X 9 X 29

a = 1

a + b = 3

a + b + c = 27

a + b + c + d = 29

a = 1 , b = 2 , c = 6 , d = 20

Then

a X b X c X d = 240

Ben Habeahan
Mar 23, 2015

I agre with trevor arashiro

Manish Mayank
Mar 21, 2015

I did same as Trevor Arashiro

S i n c e 783 = 1 3 9 29 , a n d e a c h p a r e n t h e s e s h a s a v a l u e i n c r e a s i n g f r o m l e f t t o r i g h t . T h u s a = 1 , . . . . . . . ( a + b ) = 1 + b = 3 , s o b = 2 , . . . . . . ( a + b + c ) = 3 + c = 9 , s o c = 6 , . . . . . . ( a + b + c + d ) = 9 + d = 29 , s o d = 20........ a b c d = 1 2 6 20 + 240. Since~ 783=1*3*9*29,~~\\ and~~each ~parentheses~ has ~a ~value ~increasing~ from~ left~ to~ right.\\Thus~~ a = 1, .......\\(a + b) = 1 + b =3, ~ so ~~b = 2,......\\(a + b + c) = 3 + c = 9, ~~ so ~c = 6,......\\(a + b + c + d) = 9 + d = 29,~~ so ~d = 20........\\a*b*c*d = 1*2*6*20 + 240.

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