A Race To Negative Infinity

Calculus Level 2

lim x x 2 + 2 x + x = ? \large \displaystyle{ \lim_{x \rightarrow -\infty} \sqrt{x^2 + 2x} + x} = \, ?


The answer is -1.

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6 solutions

Make the substitution u = - x, then lim x x 2 + 2 x + x = lim u u 2 2 u u = \lim_{x \to -\infty} \sqrt{x^2 + 2x} + x = \lim_{u \to \infty} \sqrt{u^2 - 2u} - u = lim u ( u 2 2 u u ) ( u 2 2 u + u ) u 2 2 u + u = lim u 2 u u 2 2 u + u = \lim_{u \to \infty} \frac{(\sqrt{u^2 - 2u} - u) \cdot (\sqrt{u^2 - 2u} + u)}{\sqrt{u^2 - 2u} + u} = \lim_{u \to \infty} \frac{-2u}{\sqrt{u^2 - 2u} + u} = Now, let's divide numerator and denominator by u = lim u 2 1 2 u + 1 = 1 = \lim_{u \to \infty} \frac{-2}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{2}{u}} + 1} = -1

Loved this solution.

Akshay Yadav - 5 years, 3 months ago

Nice solution :)

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 3 months ago

How was the root in the denominator divided by u? This is probably simple, but I don't get it.

Yihan Xia - 5 years, 2 months ago

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u = u 2 |u| = \sqrt{u^2} being u a real number

Guillermo Templado - 5 years, 2 months ago

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And the -2u?

Yihan Xia - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Yihan Xia you have to divide numerator and denomiator by u for that it is good. In this case, as u u \to \infty you can consider u positive and u 2 2 u u^2 - 2u positive and therefore , here being a and b real positive numbers a b = a b \sqrt{\frac{a}{b}} = \frac{\sqrt{a}}{\sqrt{b}}

Guillermo Templado - 5 years, 2 months ago

The sq rt of 1+(2*-1) is an imaginary number so that is the CLOSEST to the origin that the equation can be solved and is the limit. Is that correct? In other words as long as the integer is -2 or smaller, the equation works and -1 or 0 it fails?

David Dodson - 5 years, 2 months ago

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I don't understand you, sorry... I'm trying it but I don't get it, sorry.

Guillermo Templado - 5 years, 2 months ago
Krishnan Shankar
Feb 14, 2016

One way to solve the problem: make the substitution, u = x u = -x . Then the problem becomes lim u + u 2 2 u u \displaystyle{ \lim_{u \rightarrow +\infty} \sqrt{u^2 - 2u} - u }

= lim u u ( 1 2 u 1 ) = \lim_{u \rightarrow \infty} u(\sqrt{1 - \frac{2}{u}} - 1)

= lim u 1 2 u 1 1 u \displaystyle{ = \lim_{u \rightarrow \infty} \frac{\sqrt{1 - \frac{2}{u}} - 1}{\frac{1}{u}} }

= lim t 0 1 2 t 1 t ( t = 1 / u ) = \lim_{t\rightarrow 0} \frac{\sqrt{1 - 2t} - 1}{t}\quad (t = 1/u)

= lim t 0 2 2 1 2 t ( L’Hopital’s Rule ) = \lim_{t \rightarrow 0} \frac{-2}{2\sqrt{1 - 2t}} \quad (\text{L'Hopital's Rule})

= 1 = -1

Note: it is much easier to solve the problem if we notice at step 1 that lim u + u 2 2 u u = lim u + u 2 2 u + 1 u \lim_{u \rightarrow +\infty} \sqrt{u^2 - 2u} - u = \lim_{u \rightarrow +\infty} \sqrt{u^2 - 2u + 1} - u since u u goes to infinity. But this intuitively clear step requires some justification.

L'Hopital's rule is efficient and can solve some limit problems not readily treated otherwise, but it seldom gives any insight.

Michael Hardy - 5 years, 2 months ago

I use this often as lim u u 2 2 u = lim u u 2 2 u + 1 \lim_{u \to \infty} \sqrt{u^{2}-2u}=\lim_{u \to \infty} \sqrt{u^2-2u+1}

Atomsky Jahid - 5 years ago

I cheat on these. Simply substitute a fairly large -x. Here -10 is big enough, yielding (80)^1/2-10~9-10=-1.

Michael Hardy
Mar 24, 2016

When x x is negative then x = x 2 x = -\sqrt {x^2} . Rationalizing the numerator, one gets 2 x x 2 + 2 x x \dfrac{2x}{\sqrt{x^2+2x} - x} . Dividing the top and bottom both by x x means dividing the bottom by x 2 -\sqrt{x^2} . One gets 2 1 + 2 x 1 \dfrac 2 {-\sqrt{1+\frac 2 x} - 1} , so the limit is 1 -1 .

Won't a much simpler solution be to rewrite the body of the limit as ( x + 1 ) 2 1 + x x + 1 + x \sqrt{(x+1)^2-1}+x\sim |x+1|+x as x |x|\to\infty ? As x x\to-\infty , we have x + 1 + x x 1 + x = 1 |x+1|+x\sim -x-1+x=-1 .

Prasun Biswas - 5 years, 2 months ago

you could go the long way and go lim x ( f ( x + δ x ) f ( x ) ) / δ x \lim_{x \to -\infty} (f(x+\delta_{x})-f(x))/\delta_{x } and work your way through it, perhaps do a Taylor expansion, but you'll find that a couple of substitutions, say x=-10 and x=-100 shows this sequences quickly converges to 1 a s x -1\ as\ x\ \to -\infty

Muhammad Manaf
Feb 14, 2018

mana yang dari Indonesia....

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