A point P within an equilateral triangle has distance 4 cm, 5 cm, 6 cm, from the vertices. Find the length of the sides of the triangle.
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how did you derive the formulae
Let the equilateral triangle Δ A B C be such that A B = B C = A C = x , A P = 4 , B P = 5 and B C = 6 .
Now let ∠ A P B = α and ∠ A P C = β . Then ∠ B P C = 2 π − ( α + β ) . Now use the Cosine Law on triangles Δ A P B , Δ A P C and Δ B P C to establish the respective equations
(i) x 2 = 4 1 − 4 0 cos ( α ) ,
(ii) x 2 = 5 2 − 4 8 cos ( β ) , and
(iii) x 2 = 6 1 − 6 0 cos ( α + β ) .
This system has (second quadrant) solution values α = 2 . 4 9 2 6 7 , β = 2 . 0 2 0 5 9 radians. Plugging this value of α into (i) yields the solution x = 8 . 5 3 6 to 3 decimal places.
(Note that the same value for x is found when this value for β is plugged into (ii).)
Can you please explain the steps on how you solved the system for the values of α and β?
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I actually just relied on WolframAlpha, since the algebra is really messy. However, I will sketch out an outline of a method to find x directly.
Let γ = 2 π − ( α + β ) . Then
cos ( γ ) = cos ( α + β ) = cos ( α ) cos ( β ) − sin ( α ) sin ( β ) ⟹
( cos ( α ) cos ( β ) − cos ( γ ) ) 2 = sin 2 ( α ) sin 2 ( β ) = ( 1 − cos 2 ( α ) ) ( 1 − cos 2 ( β ) ) .
Call this last equation (A). Now from (i) through (iii) we have that
cos ( α ) = 4 0 4 1 − x 2 , cos ( β ) = 4 8 5 2 − x 2 , cos ( γ ) = 6 0 6 2 − x 2 .
We can then substitute these expressions into equation (A) and rearrange to get a quartic in x . (This is the really messy part, so I'll skip to the punch line.) This quartic turns out to be
x 4 − 7 7 x 2 + 3 0 1 = 0 ⟹ x 2 = 2 7 7 ± 1 5 2 1 ⟹ x = 2 1 1 5 4 ± 3 0 2 1 .
The smaller of the two possible values can be discarded as the distances from the vertices to P would leave P outside the triangle, so we are left with the solution x = 2 1 1 5 4 + 3 0 2 1 = 8 . 5 3 6 as found before, (but at least now we have an exact value for x ).
i wrote the cosine formula for each angle and then i also applied lami's theorm here(its in physics, but, thought i would give it a try here), considering that 4,5,6 are the magnitudes of the forces. i got the answer 8.72. this method's pretty viable, yes? but i am not getting the exact answer..
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That's an interesting idea, but I don't see how there is a physical correlation between the lengths involved in this question with forces as dealt with in Lami's theorem. Also, when I combined my cosine formulas with the Lami equations I didn't end up with real solutions.
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i assumed they are the forces' magnitude. so, then the method can be applied,no? i got the value of the side length as root of 76.
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@Lipsa Kar – I don't think that we can consider the lengths given as being "equivalent" to forces, so Lami's theorem cannot be applied in this case.
For equation 3, wouldn't it be cos(2pi-(a+b))? Sorry for the lack of Latex.
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Yes, but I simplified it since cos ( 2 π − ( α + β ) ) = cos ( α + β ) .
Put the equilateral triangle △ A B C in a Cartesian plane, with one of the vertices say C coinciding with the origin. Therefore, A = ( l / 2 , 3 l / 2 ) and B = ( l , 0 ) , where l is the length of the side of the triangle. Let P have coordinates ( x , y ) .
Now, compute the distances of the vertices to P. I assume C P = 6 , A P = 5 and B P = 4 . One has: x 2 + y 2 = 3 6 , ( l − x ) 2 + y 2 = 1 6 , ( x − l / 2 ) 2 + ( 3 l / 2 − y ) 2 = 2 5 .
Manipulating this system of equations, one arrives at the following biquadratic equation: l 4 − 7 7 l 2 + 3 0 1 = 0 .
The only viable solution is l = 2 1 5 2 1 + 2 7 7 ≈ 8 . 5 3 6 3 5 . The other positive solution is l = 2 . 0 3 2 4 1 but it is unacceptable, since it would imply P to be outside the triangle.
This (slightly) brute force approach works. Unfortunately, there isn't much nice aspects of this problem that could be exploited.
The relation,
3 ( p 4 + q 4 + r 4 + a 4 ) = ( p 2 + q 2 + r 2 + a 2 ) 2 is always true for an equilateral triangle.
Where, p , q , r are the distances of the point from the vertices, a is the length of the side of the triangle.
This relation can be proved using co-ordinate geometry and some bashing.
After this we can substitute the values and get the answer as 8 . 5 3 6 4 .
@Saarthak Marathe What is the name of this relation ? Or, can you write the proof here?
I have applied coordinate geometry to solve this problem.
Consider the equilateral shown above in the Cartesian plane with side length a units with vertices at ( 0 , 0 ) , ( 2 a 2 3 a ) and ( a , 0 ) . Let coordinates of position of P be ( x , y ) with distances 5 , 4 and 6 units respectively from the three vertices.
Using distance formula, we get,
( x − 2 a ) 2 + ( y − 2 3 a ) 2 = 1 6 ⋯ ( 1 ) x 2 + y 2 = 2 5 ⋯ ( 2 ) ( x − a ) 2 + y 2 = 3 6 ⋯ ( 3 )
Expanding ( 1 ) , we get,
x 2 + 4 a 2 − a x + y 2 + 4 3 a 2 − 3 a y = 1 6 ⋯ ( 4 )
Expanding ( 3 ) , we get,
x 2 + a 2 − 2 a x + y 2 = 3 6 ⋯ ( 5 )
Substituting x 2 + y 2 with 2 5 [from ( 2 ) ] in ( 4 ) and ( 5 ) , we get,
2 5 + a 2 − a x − 3 a y = 1 6 ⟹ a 2 − a x − 3 a y = − 9 ⋯ ( 6 ) 2 5 + a 2 − 2 a x = 3 6 ⟹ a 2 − 2 a x = 1 1 ⋯ ( 7 )
Using ( 6 ) and ( 7 ) , we obtain the value of x and y in terms of a as:
x = 2 a a 2 − 1 1 y = 2 3 a a 2 + 2 9
Plugging in the values of x and y in ( 2 ) , we obtain,
( 2 a a 2 − 1 1 ) 2 + ( 2 3 a a 2 + 2 9 ) 2 = 2 5
⟹ a 4 − 7 7 a 2 + 3 0 1 = 0
Whose, positive roots (as we are required to find magnitude of length, so we are considering only positive roots) are given as:
a = 2 7 7 + 1 5 2 1 or a = 2 7 7 − 1 5 2 1
The value of 2 7 7 − 1 5 2 1 comes out to be approximately 2 . 0 3 , which implies that P lies outside our triangle as each of the distances from P to each of the vertices is greater than 2 . 0 3 .
But, since, P lies within our triangle, so we have,
a = 2 7 7 + 1 5 2 1 ≈ 8 . 5 3
i had to use wolfram alpha you can see it here : " https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sqrt(x%5E2-1) sqrt(81-x%5E2)%2B+sqrt(x%5E2-4) sqrt(100-x%5E2)%2Bsqrt(x%5E2-1) sqrt(121-x%5E2)-sqrt+(3) x%5E2%3D0 " i raeched these equations using the area constraint.
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Bashing a little with law of cosines, we get the following formula:
L = 2 a 2 + b 2 + c 2 + 3 ( a + b + c ) ( a + b − c ) ( a − b + c ) ( − a + b + c )
where L is the side of the equilateral triangle and a , b and c are the distances from P to the vertices of the triangle.
Substituting we get:
L = 2 4 2 + 5 2 + 6 2 + 3 ( 4 + 5 + 6 ) ( 4 + 5 − 6 ) ( 4 − 5 + 6 ) ( − 4 + 5 + 6 )
L = 2 7 7 + 4 7 2 5
L = 2 7 7 + 1 5 2 1
L ≈ 8 . 5 3 6 3