Circular reasoning

Geometry Level 2

O O is the center of the circle. Find h . h.

10 11 12 13

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10 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
Nov 17, 2016

We note that A F = B O = 5 AF=BO = 5 , O F = O C = r OF=OC=r and O A F = C B O = 9 0 \angle OAF = \angle CBO = 90^\circ , therefore A O F \triangle AOF and C B O \triangle CBO are congruent. So A O = C B AO=CB or h = 12 h=\boxed{12} .

Is it assumed that point O is the centre of the circle. Without that assumption I'm not sure the proof works.

David Watkins - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Indeed. I have added that clarification in.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago

How do we know that the triangles are similar?

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Thanks for the comments. I have explained it.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 6 months ago

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I suggest you use the term 'congruent'.

William Nathanael Supriadi - 4 years, 6 months ago

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@William Nathanael Supriadi Thanks. You are right. I was not sure of the meaning.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 6 months ago

How do you make such kind of diagrms? What software?

James Bacon - 3 years, 9 months ago

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I copy the figure in the problem and paste in in Print and edit it.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 9 months ago

The circle and the fact that O is the center are meaningless additions to make the problem appear tougher than it is. No Pythagoras calculations needed either. Just keep looking and logic alone reveals the answer.

Roger Kohnfelder - 4 years, 4 months ago

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I disagree. We need that O F = O C OF = OC , which follows from O being the center of the circle. If there is no restriction on O F OF , then the height can be any value (since it is equal to O F 2 5 2 \sqrt{ OF^2 - 5^2 } .

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 4 months ago
Ahmad Saad
Nov 16, 2016

Where did the last two equations come from?

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Pythagoras again

Peter van der Linden - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Yes, that's right. Thanks.

Ahmad Saad - 4 years, 7 months ago

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@Ahmad Saad I think your first question on Brilliant

Vishwash Kumar ΓΞΩ - 4 years, 7 months ago

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@Vishwash Kumar Γξω Yes. That's another options of previous problem belongs one of site members which Mr. Calvin ask for.

Ahmad Saad - 4 years, 7 months ago

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@Ahmad Saad Nice problem. Yay to getting inspiration from others :)

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago

If we consider the lower triangle, we can form a 5-12-13 right triangle. Thus, the radius is 13. Now in the upper triangle, we can form another 5-12-13 triangle. Thus, h = 12.

I interpreted your diagram as h being the entire red line, which is AB, not just AO. So h to me was 12 + 5, but you did not list 17 as an answer. I should have left it blank. The problem was not well diagrammed.

Charles Heilbrunn - 3 years ago
Ahmed Sami
Apr 10, 2020

(r-5)(r+5)=12×12 ............ r^2 - 25=144 ................... r =13 .............. From pythagorean theorem h^2=r^2-5^ Then h=12

George Vatistas
Aug 10, 2017

The triangle DO and right angle = triangle OE and right angle. Therefore, h = 24/2 = 12.

Chris A
Jan 30, 2017

The triangles E-O-1/2EF and D-O-1/2DC are equal as they both consist of sides 5 and a radius, therefore we have h given as 1/2 DC or 12.

5^2+12^2=5^2+h^2

Kiran Mankame
Jan 27, 2017

I) OD = OC = OE = OF as radii of same circle.
II) According to Pythagoras theorem OD = 13, as OD^2 = (5)^2 + (24/2)^2
III) In triangle OEF, OE = OF = 13 and half of base = 5. Let 'A' be the mid-point of line EF i.e. base of triangle OEF. By applying Pythagoras theorem on triangle OAF will get OA i.e. h = 12.

Soumajyoti Das
Jan 26, 2017

Let us consider the mid point of DC be A and the mid point of EF be K Considering triangle OAC, we have (OC)^2 = (OA)^2 + (AC)^2 and we get OC=13. Since O is the centre of the circle, OC and OF are the radius and hence they are equal. Thus in triangle OKF, (OK)^2 = (OF)^2 + (KF)^2 And thus h = 12

梦 叶
Nov 25, 2016

Notices that there are 4 right triangles and they satisfy 5^2 +12^2=13^2. So, h=12.

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