Solving Geometry In Portuguese

Geometry Level 2

A B C \triangle ABC is isosceles with A B = A C AB = AC and B A C = 30 ° \angle BAC = 30° . It is given that B A D = B C E = 10 ° \angle BAD = \angle B CE =10° . Find E D A \angle EDA in degrees.


The answer is 65.

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4 solutions

Eloy Machado
Apr 7, 2014

We know A B C \triangle ABC is isosceles, so B C ^ A = C B ^ A = 75 ° B \hat{C}A = C \hat{B}A = 75° . Then, E C ^ A = 65 ° E \hat{C}A = 65° .

Since B A ^ D = B C ^ E = 10 ° B \hat{A}D = B \hat{C}E = 10° we know A E D C AEDC is a cyclic quadrilateral. Then, E D ^ A = E C ^ A = 65 ° E \hat{D}A = E \hat{C}A = \boxed{65°}

A B C \angle ABC is the common notation for angles, instead of A B ^ C A \hat{B} C . I've edited your question for clarity.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 2 months ago

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Ok, no problem. When I learned the notations (my teacher was one of the best of Brazil), there was a difference between them: A B C \angle ABC was the "figure" and A B ^ C A \hat{B}C was the "measure". Is it wrong?

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 2 months ago

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Mathematical notation greatly depends on where you learnt it. There is no "right or wrong" answer.
Hat notation is less popular nowadays though.
I use A B C \triangle ABC to denote the triangle ABC. Not certain if that's what you meant by "figure".

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Calvin Lin Yes, that´s it. Not sure about the correct word for it. I learned (and I teach) "figures" (or "things") are congruents to each other (e.g. A B C P Q R \angle ABC \cong \angle PQR ), and measures are equals (measure of A B C \angle ABC = measure of P Q R \angle PQR ).

So nowadays we should use the same notation in both cases? (e.g. A B C P Q R \angle ABC \cong \angle PQR and A B C = P Q R = 30 ° \angle ABC = \angle PQR = 30° ) ?

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Eloy Machado I think most people use A B C = P Q R \angle ABC = \angle PQR to denote both angles are equal in value or magnitude.

and A B C P Q R \triangle ABC \cong \triangle PQR to denote two triangles are congruent to each other...

Hope this helps :)

Eddie The Head - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Eddie The Head well....the notation of congruent triangles never was in doubt, but thank you for your help. :-)

Still waiting for response from Calvin to my last question.

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Eloy Machado By the way, I didn´t like the new name of my problem. It sounds a bit pejorative and probably does not attract people to solve it.... :-(

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Eloy Machado I've updated the title. I didn't intend for it to be pejorative. I love the fact that mathematics can be written in different languages but understood by all.

Notation is extremely localized, and it greatly depends on whom you learnt it from.
The statement A B C = X Y Z \angle ABC = \angle XYZ is understood to refer to the measure of the angle. People often say "What is A B C \angle ABC ?", when asking for the size.
You would notice that in questions I pose, I often ask "What is the measure (in degrees) of angle A B C ABC ".

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Calvin Lin Thanks @Calvin Lin ! I was very curious because all "my life" I believed there were differences between the figure angle (Two rays sharing a common endpoint) and the measure of the angle, with distinct notation for them.

Now, I am really convinced there are no need for this difference. We know 2 angles are congruent when they have the same measure. But we don´t need a notation for congruence of angle because we can always use the notation of measure of the angle.

Do you agree?

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Eloy Machado yes

Maqsooda Rattar - 7 years, 1 month ago

@Eloy Machado To Solve this, I don't know about cyclic quadrilaterals, so I drew the diagram out and then mirrored it along the center and the connected E to a new F horizontally (where angleECF = 65 and FEC = 10), and BF mirrors CE, and they bisect each other on the mirror line. I then filled in all the know angles and worked it out from there.

Remus Lupin - 5 years, 5 months ago

What is the proof that the quadrilateral is cyclic?

Vighnesh Raut - 7 years, 2 months ago

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One necessary and sufficient condition for a convex quadrilateral to be cyclic is that an angle between a side and a diagonal is equal to the angle between the opposite side and the other diagonal.

Since E A D = B C E = 10 ° \angle EAD = \angle BCE = 10° , A E D C AEDC is a cyclic quadrilateral.

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 2 months ago

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thanks .......

saurabh kumar agrawal - 7 years, 2 months ago

How is that, though? Im sorry but I really want to know..

Carlo Valdecañas - 7 years, 1 month ago

Easy

Indrashis Haldar - 7 years, 1 month ago

65

Rahul Wadibhasme - 7 years, 1 month ago

sir what is the integral of "xtanx" i.e.-\int { xtanxdx=??` }

Harikesh Yadav - 7 years, 1 month ago

Umm, it can easily be solved with similarity, we can find all the unknown angles and come to find out that triangle AEY is similar to triangle CD(intersection of AD and CE). And the sides C(intersection) and (intersection)A are the sides of triangle A(intersection)C with the sides in the ratio of, say, a:b, and if we look at the smaller triangle D(intersection)E we can see that the two sides are I'm the ratio of the sides bases, this also in the ratio of a:b and both have an included angle of 95, therefore are similar, and therefore angle ACE=angle EDA=65

Sugam Bhandari - 7 years, 1 month ago

i have the same answer with you!@

Trong Nguyen - 7 years, 1 month ago

i solved it in 3 minutes!

Trong Nguyen - 7 years, 1 month ago

thanks for nice challenge!

Trong Nguyen - 7 years, 1 month ago

very good one sir

Krishanu Kumar - 7 years, 1 month ago

It took me 10 10 minutes.

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 7 months ago

60 not 65

MohaMed IbraHim - 7 years, 1 month ago

ABC is an isoscales triangle, with angle EAD=angle ECD, so the quadrilateral AEDC is a cyclic one. Each of the two equal angles is equal to 75 degrees. Therefore ECA=65 degrees, now angle AEC+angle DEC= 180-75=105. considering triangle AED and given that the sum of all triangles is equal to 180 degrees, therefore we get x=65.

Pritam Waghode
Apr 17, 2014

AEDC IS A CYCLIC QUADRILATERAL SO DO IT ACCORDINGLY

Henrique Ribeiro
Apr 14, 2014

BCA = CBA = 75º. The upper right triangle is 20º + 95º + 65º. The upper left triangle is 10º + 85º + 85º. So, the desired triangle is 95º + 20º + (EDA) 65º. I used angles opposite by the vertex and supplementary angles to solve this problem.

Please, clarify your argument for the 20º in "desired triangle"?

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 1 month ago

what is this??

Harikesh Yadav - 7 years, 1 month ago

Sure, as I found the upper left triangle and the B angle, I can affirm by supplementary angles that 180º - 85º - 75º = 20º. "The desired triangle" is the triangle with the unknown angle x. By angles opposite by the vertex, I found the other angle of this triangle is 95º. Then, I concluded by the rule about internal angles of a triangle must be 180º - 95º - 20º = 65º.

Henrique Ribeiro - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Hi Henrique! If I understood correcty, to discover D E C = 20 ° \angle DEC = 20° you affirmed B E D = 75 ° \angle BED = 75° . If that is what you said, why did you know B E D = 75 ° \angle BED = 75° ?

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Because triangle BED is isosceles.

Henrique Ribeiro - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Henrique Ribeiro Why is it isosceles?

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 1 month ago

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