An algebra problem by diali kundu

Algebra Level 1

If a+b=6,then what is the greatest value of ab?


The answer is 9.

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2 solutions

Can you tell us why there is a b \sqrt {ab} instead of ab

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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This type of solution I was expecting. Root ab is the geometric mean .

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 9 months ago

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hmm, Nice proof !!

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

Hmm... I dont see why a=b?

Jingyang Tan - 5 years, 9 months ago
Syed Baqir
Sep 13, 2015

a + b = 6

1 + 5 = 6 => (1)(5) = 5

2 + 4 = 6 => (2)(4) = 8

3 + 3 = 6 => (3)(3) = 9 \boxed{9} (Hence Greatest value of ab)

How do you know that a and b are positive integers

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 9 months ago

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If you take negative it will not give Greatest value.

For example: -3 + 9 = 6 but (-3)(9) = -27 (Not a greatest Value)

Or,

Two Negative numbers will break the Rule i.e. a + b = 6 .

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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And how do you know that a and b are integers, can you prove that that why only 3+3 gives the maximum value?

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Kushagra Sahni It is quite obvious from question !

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Syed Baqir You are not understanding, I am asking why only a=b=3 gives maximum value of a and b. Why is 9 the maximum value of ab. Aren't there any other real values of a and b which give a value of ab greater than 9. Prove that 9 is the maximum value of ab.

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Kushagra Sahni Well, its obvious because

4 + 2 = 6 BUT (4)(2) = 8 < 9

5 + 1 = 6 But (5)(1) = 5 < 9

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Syed Baqir Prove that 9 is the largest value for ab if a and b lie over all real numbers. Not only integers.

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Kushagra Sahni a + b = 6 , ab =9

a = 6 -b , b = 6 - a

(6 - b)(b) = 9 => b 2 + 6 b 9 ( b 3 ) 2 = 0 - b^{2} + 6b - 9 \longrightarrow (b-3)^{2} = 0

b = ± 3 \large\rightarrow b = \pm 3

Hence we take Positive because negative is not Possible as it will not obey a + b = 6 .

You cannot assume that there is any other greatest value!!

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Syed Baqir Lol, how are you using that the maximum value is 9? That's what you have to prove. You can't take ab =9. You only know that a+b is 6 that's all. Now prove that maximum value of ab is 9.

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Kushagra Sahni Can you find any other value that is maximum,

If you read what I said you will find that there is no other value which gives more than 9 there is no such proof because it is obvious as any other value will break

a + b = 6 \large a + b = 6

Only possible answer is 3 by trail and error .

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Syed Baqir When did I say that 9 is not correct. Of course it is but I was asking you to prove that. Of course there is a proof and what if a and b are not integers, you are only testing for integers and you got your answer by trial and error. Hint for the proof is AM-GM inequality.

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Kushagra Sahni Ohh , ok we have someone posted the proof luckily !

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Kushagra Sahni see, the real solution is; (a-b)2 is greater than/equal to 0 or, (a+b)2-4ab is greater than equal to 0 or, (6)2 -4ab is greater than equal to 0 or, 36 is greater than equal to 4ab or, 4ab is less than equal to 36 or, ab is less than equal to 36/4 or, ab is less than equal to 9.

so, the greatest value of ab is 9.

diali kundu - 5 years, 8 months ago

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