A plane intersecting two circles

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You are given two circles C 1 C_1 and C 2 C_2 . Circle C 1 C_1 has a radius of 50 50 and its center is at ( 50 , 25 , 0 ) (50, 25, 0) . It plane has a unit normal vector given by n 1 = ( sin θ 1 cos ϕ 1 , sin θ 1 sin ϕ 1 , cos θ 1 ) \mathbf{n}_1 = ( \sin \theta_1 \cos \phi_1, \sin \theta_1 \sin \phi_1 , \cos \theta_1 ) , where θ 1 = 7 0 \theta_1 = 70^{\circ} and ϕ 1 = 6 0 \phi_1 = 60^{\circ} .

Circle C 2 C_2 has a radius of 70 70 and its center is at ( 25 , 50 , 0 ) (25, 50, 0 ) . Its plane has a unit normal vector given by n 2 = ( sin θ 2 cos ϕ 2 , sin θ 2 sin ϕ 2 , cos θ 2 ) \mathbf{n}_2 = ( \sin \theta_2 \cos \phi_2, \sin \theta_2 \sin \phi_2 , \cos \theta_2 ) , where θ 2 = 5 0 \theta_2 = 50^{\circ} and ϕ 2 = 18 0 \phi_2 = 180^{\circ} .

A plane passing through the origin and having a normal vector n p = ( 1 , 2 , 6 ) \mathbf{n}_p = (1,-2, 6) passes through the two circles, intersecting each in two points. Construct the convex quadrilateral from these four points, and find its perimeter and area.

Find the sum of the perimeter and the area.


The answer is 7020.4.

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2 solutions

David Vreken
Oct 5, 2020

The two points on circle C 1 C_1 are on the intersection of the two planes with normal vectors n 1 n_1 and n p n_p , and also 50 50 units away from its center ( 50 , 25 , 0 ) (50, 25, 0) . Therefore:

  • sin 70 ° cos 60 ° x + sin 70 ° sin 60 ° y + cos 70 ° z = 50 sin 70 ° cos 60 ° + 25 sin 70 ° sin 60 ° + 0 cos 70 ° \sin 70° \cos 60° x + \sin 70° \sin 60° y + \cos 70° z = 50 \sin 70° \cos 60° + 25 \sin 70° \sin 60° + 0 \cos 70°

  • x 2 y + 6 z = 0 2 0 + 6 0 x - 2y + 6z = 0 - 2 \cdot 0 + 6 \cdot 0

  • ( x 50 ) 2 + ( y 25 ) 2 + ( z 0 ) 2 = 5 0 2 (x - 50)^2 + (y - 25)^2 + (z - 0)^2 = 50^2

which solves numerically to A ( 6.1000 , 44.5341 , 13.8280 ) A(6.1000, 44.5341, 13.8280) and B ( 93.9000 , 5.4659 , 13.8280 ) B(93.9000, 5.4659, -13.8280) .

Similarly, two points on circle C 2 C_2 are on the intersection of the two planes with normal vectors n 2 n_2 and n p n_p , and also 70 70 units away from its center ( 25 , 50 , 0 ) (25, 50, 0) . So:

  • sin 50 ° cos 180 ° x + sin 50 ° sin 180 ° y + cos 50 ° z = 25 sin 50 ° cos 180 ° + 50 sin 50 ° sin 180 ° + 0 cos 50 ° \sin 50° \cos 180° x + \sin 50° \sin 180° y + \cos 50° z = 25 \sin 50° \cos 180° + 50 \sin 50° \sin 180° + 0 \cos 50°

  • x 2 y + 6 z = 0 2 0 + 6 0 x - 2y + 6z = 0 - 2 \cdot 0 + 6 \cdot 0

  • ( x 25 ) 2 + ( y 50 ) 2 + ( z 0 ) 2 = 7 0 2 (x - 25)^2 + (y - 50)^2 + (z - 0)^2 = 70^2

which solves numerically to C ( 17.2798 , 18.9619 , 9.2006 ) C(17.2798, -18.9619, -9.2006) and D ( 48.7831 , 109.4220 , 28.3436 ) D(48.7831, 109.4220, 28.3436) .

By the distance equation, A B = 100 AB = 100 , A C = 68.4620 AC = 68.4620 , A D = 79.0126 AD = 79.0126 , B C = 80.5530 BC = 80.5530 , B D = 120.9167 BD = 120.9167 , and C D = 137.4207 CD = 137.4207 .

C D CD is the longest, so that is one of the diagonals, which makes A B AB the other diagonal.

That means the perimeter of the quadrilateral is A C + A D + B C + B D = 348.9442 AC + AD + BC + BD = 348.9442 .

And the area of the quadrilateral is the combined areas of A C D \triangle ACD and B C D \triangle BCD , which by Heron's formula calculates to 1833.232 + 4838.2222 = 6671.4542 1833.232 + 4838.2222 = 6671.4542 .

Therefore, the sum of the perimeter and area is 348.9442 + 6671.4542 = 7020.4 348.9442 + 6671.4542 = \boxed{7020.4} .

Karan Chatrath
Oct 4, 2020

Consider:

n ^ 1 = ( n 1 x , n 1 y , n 1 z ) \hat{n}_1 = (n_{1x},n_{1y},n_{1z}) n ^ 2 = ( n 2 x , n 2 y , n 2 z ) \hat{n}_2 = (n_{2x},n_{2y},n_{2z})

The equations of the planes on which each of the circles lies are:

P 1 : ( ( x 50 ) , ( y 25 ) , z ) n ^ 1 = 0 P_1: \ ((x-50),(y-25),z) \cdot \hat{n}_1 = 0 P 2 : ( ( x 25 ) , ( y 50 ) , z ) n ^ 2 = 0 P_2: \ ((x-25),(y-50),z) \cdot \hat{n}_2 = 0

Having found the equations of these planes, the next step is to find a pair of perpendicular unit vectors on each plane to parameterise the circles. A point that lies of P 1 P_1 and P 2 P_2 respectively are:

R P 1 = ( 0 , 0 , 50 n 1 x + 25 n 1 y n 1 z ) R_{P1}=\left(0,0,\frac{50n_{1x}+25n_{1y}}{n_{1z}}\right) R P 2 = ( 0 , 0 , 25 n 2 x + 50 n 2 y n 2 z ) R_{P2}=\left(0,0,\frac{25n_{2x}+50n_{2y}}{n_{2z}}\right)

Therefore: a unit vector on the plane P 1 P_1 is:

n ^ 11 = R P 1 R C 1 R P 1 R C 1 \hat{n}_{11} = \frac{R_{P1}-R_{C1}}{\lvert R_{P1}-R_{C1} \rvert} n ^ 12 = n ^ 1 × n ^ 11 \hat{n}_{12} = \hat{n}_1 \times \hat{n}_{11}

A unit vector on the plane P 2 P_2 is:

n ^ 21 = R P 2 R C 2 R P 2 R C 2 \hat{n}_{21} = \frac{R_{P2}-R_{C2}}{\lvert R_{P2}-R_{C2} \rvert} n ^ 22 = n ^ 2 × n ^ 21 \hat{n}_{22} = \hat{n}_2 \times \hat{n}_{21}

Here R C 1 R_{C1} and R C 2 R_{C2} are the position vectors of the circles' centers.

Finally, the parametric equations of each circle are:

r C 1 = R C 1 + R 1 cos α n ^ 11 + R 1 sin α n ^ 12 \vec{r}_{C1} = R_{C1} + R_1 \cos{\alpha} \ \hat{n}_{11} + R_1 \sin{\alpha} \ \hat{n}_{12} r C 2 = R C 2 + R 2 cos β n ^ 21 + R 2 sin β n ^ 22 \vec{r}_{C2} = R_{C2} + R_2 \cos{\beta}\ \hat{n}_{21} + R_2 \sin{\beta} \ \hat{n}_{22}

This parameterization allows us to 3D plot the circles. The equation of the intersecting plane is given by:

x 2 y + 6 z = 0 x - 2y + 6z =0

The next step to finding the points of intersection of the plane with the circles was carried out numerically. What I did was compute the following quantity:

D 1 = r C 1 x 2 r C 1 y + 6 r C 1 z D_1 = r_{C1x} - 2r_{C1y} + 6r_{C1z} D 2 = r C 2 x 2 r C 2 y + 6 r C 2 z D_2 = r_{C2x} - 2r_{C2y} + 6r_{C2z}

Here, r C 1 x , y , z r_{C1x,y,z} are the x, y and z components of r C 1 \vec{r}_{C1} . Similar convention applies to the second circle as well. To see if the point lies on the plane, I swept around both circles iteratively (a programming for loop) and checked if:

D 1 ϵ \lvert D_1 \rvert \le \epsilon D 2 ϵ \lvert D_2 \rvert \le \epsilon

Where ϵ \epsilon is a small number like 1 0 3 10^{-3} for instance. The points of intersection are the following:

P 1 = [ 93.9 5.4659 13.8279 ] P_1 = \left[\begin{matrix} 93.9\\5.4659\\-13.8279\end{matrix}\right] P 2 = [ 6.1 44.5340 13.8281 ] P_2 = \left[\begin{matrix} 6.1\\44.5340\\13.8281\end{matrix}\right] P 3 = [ 17.2798 18.9619 9.2006 ] P_3 = \left[\begin{matrix} 17.2798\\-18.9619\\-9.2006\end{matrix}\right] P 4 = [ 48.7831 109.4223 28.3436 ] P_4 = \left[\begin{matrix} 48.7831\\109.4223\\28.3436\end{matrix}\right]

P 1 P_1 and P 2 P_2 are points of intersection of C 1 C_1 and P 3 P_3 and P 4 P_4 are points of intersection of C 2 C_2 .

Now, having found these points, it is easy to visualise the geometry. P 1 P_1 is in red, P 2 P_2 is in blue, P 3 P_3 is in green, and P 4 P_4 is in magenta. The diagram is as follows:

The area of the triangle with P 1 P_1 , P 2 P_2 and P 3 P_3 are:

V 13 = P 1 P 3 \vec{V}_{13} = \vec{P}_1 - \vec{P}_3 V 23 = P 2 P 3 \vec{V}_{23} = \vec{P}_2 - \vec{P}_3

A 123 = 0.5 V 13 × V 23 A_{123} = 0.5 \lvert \vec{V}_{13} \times \vec{V}_{23} \rvert

The area of the triangle with P 1 P_1 , P 2 P_2 and P 4 P_4 are:

V 14 = P 1 P 4 \vec{V}_{14} = \vec{P}_1 - \vec{P}_4 V 24 = P 2 P 4 \vec{V}_{24} = \vec{P}_2 - \vec{P}_4

A 124 = 0.5 V 14 × V 24 A_{124} = 0.5 \lvert \vec{V}_{14} \times \vec{V}_{24} \rvert

The total area of the convex quadrilateral is:

A = A 123 + A 124 A = A_{123} + A_{124}

The perimeter of the quadrilateral is:

P = V 14 + V 24 + V 13 + V 23 P = \lvert \vec{V}_{14} \rvert + \lvert \vec{V}_{24} \rvert + \lvert \vec{V}_{13} \rvert + \lvert \vec{V}_{23} \rvert

Hi! I found my mistake. I wrongly wrote ϕ 1 = 8 0 \phi_1 =80^{\circ} . I got lucky to have got this problem correct.

Karan Chatrath - 8 months, 1 week ago

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Thanks for sharing your solution.

Hosam Hajjir - 8 months, 1 week ago

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Hello, I have updated my solution. I have used a computational tool to perform all the calculations. In case you have solved this analytically, please share your approach as well.

Also, I find your geometry problems very difficult in general, and I have got many of them wrong in the past. It felt good to solve this difficult one correctly. Thank you for sharing this problem.

Karan Chatrath - 8 months, 1 week ago

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@Karan Chatrath You'e welcome. I got the same P 3 P_3 and P 4 P_4 from the second circle. However for P 1 P_1 and P 2 P_2 , from the first circle, I got,

P 1 = ( 6.100040575 , 44.53406233 , 13.82801401 ) P_1 = (6.100040575, 44.53406233, 13.82801401) and

P 2 = ( 93.89995943 , 5.465937675 , 13.82801401 P_2 = (93.89995943, 5.465937675, -13.82801401 .

I've double checked that these two points lie on the first circle and on the plane.

I've also double checked your P 1 P_1 and P 2 P_2 and found that they lie on the given plane but they do not lie on the first circle. They lie on a sphere of radius 50 50 with the same center as the given circle.

Hosam Hajjir - 8 months, 1 week ago

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@Hosam Hajjir Thanks for the clarification. I have updated my solution. The reason for the disparity in points of intersection with the first circle is because I wrongly defined the quantity given in the question ϕ 1 = 8 0 \phi_1 = 80^{\circ} instead of 6 0 60^{\circ} . That is why, the points I found lie on the plane, but they actually lie on a different circle

Karan Chatrath - 8 months, 1 week ago

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