One Multiplied By Itself Indefinitely

Calculus Level 2

lim x ( x + 6 x + 1 ) x + 4 \large \displaystyle \large{\lim_{x\to\infty}\left(\dfrac{x+6}{x+1}\right)^{x+4}}

The limit above can be expressed as e a e^a for some integer a a . Find a a .


The answer is 5.

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The expression is equivalent to lim x ( 1 + 5 x + 1 ) x + 4 \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}{\left(1+\dfrac 5 {x+1}\right)^{x+4}} . This takes the indeterminate form of 1 1^{\infty} .

Theorem: If lim x a f ( x ) = lim x a g ( x ) = 0 \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{f(x)}=\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{g(x)}=0 such that lim x a f ( x ) g ( x ) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{\dfrac{f(x)}{g(x)}} exists, then lim x a ( 1 + f ( x ) ) 1 / g ( x ) = e lim x a f ( x ) / g ( x ) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{(1+f(x))}^{1/g(x)}=e^{\lim_{x \to a}{f(x)/g(x)}} .

We will now apply this well known theorem with f ( x ) = 5 x + 1 f(x) = \frac{5}{x+1} and g ( x ) = x + 4 g(x) = x+4 :

lim x ( 1 + 5 x + 1 1 ) ( x + 4 ) = lim x 5 ( x + 4 ) x + 1 \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}{\left(1+\dfrac 5 {x+1}-1 \right)(x+4)}=\displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}{\dfrac{5(x+4)}{x+1}}

As x , x + 4 x + 1 = 1 x \to \infty, \dfrac{x+4}{x+1}=1 .

Thus lim x 5 ( x + 4 ) x + 1 = 5 \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}{\dfrac{5(x+4)}{x+1}}=5 which exists.

Therefore the limit of the expression is e^\left({\displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}{\left(1+\dfrac 5 {x+1}-1 \right)(x+4)}}\right)=e^5 .

Thus a = 5 a=\boxed5 .

Please use words to explain what you are doing. Why did that exponent power suddenly become just multiplied by?

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 1 month ago

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Theorem: If lim x a f ( x ) = lim x a g ( x ) = 0 \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{f(x)}=\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{g(x)}=0 such that lim x a f ( x ) g ( x ) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{\dfrac{f(x)}{g(x)}} exists, then lim x a ( 1 + f ( x ) ) 1 / g ( x ) = e lim x a f ( x ) / g ( x ) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{(1+f(x))}^{1/g(x)}=e^{\lim_{x \to a}{f(x)/g(x)}} .

Proof: Let L = lim x a ( 1 + f ( x ) ) 1 / g ( x ) L=\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{(1+f(x))^{1/g(x)}} .

Taking ln on both sides ln L = lim x a ln ( 1 + f ( x ) ) g ( x ) = lim x a ln ( 1 + f ( x ) ) f ( x ) × f ( x ) g ( x ) = lim x a f ( x ) g ( x ) \ln L= \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{\dfrac{\ln(1+f(x))}{g(x)}}=\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{\dfrac{\ln(1+f(x))}{f(x)} \times \dfrac{f(x)}{g(x)}}=\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{\dfrac{f(x)}{g(x)}} as lim x 0 ln ( 1 + x ) x = 1 \displaystyle \lim_{x \to 0}{\dfrac{\ln(1+x)}{x}}=1 .

So L = e lim x a f ( x ) / g ( x ) L=e^{\lim_{x \to a}{f(x)/g(x)}} .

We can also rewrite the theorem as follows:

If lim x a f ( x ) = 1 \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{f(x)}=1 and lim x a g ( x ) = \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{g(x)}=\infty such that lim x a ( f ( x ) 1 ) ( g ( x ) ) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{(f(x)-1)(g(x))} exists, then lim x a f ( x ) g ( x ) = e lim x a ( f ( x ) 1 ) g ( x ) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a}{f(x)^{g(x)}}=e^{\lim_{x \to a}{(f(x)-1)}{g(x)}} .

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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Great! Could you add "Apply the theorem (state the theorem)" to your solution?

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Calvin Lin Sure sir. Is it fine now?

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member I've edited the solution to make it immediately clear what is happening, instead of having people scroll up and down.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Calvin Lin Thank you sir :)

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago
展豪 張
Apr 22, 2016

lim x ( x + 6 x + 1 ) x + 4 = lim x ( 1 + 5 x + 1 ) x + 4 = lim x ( 1 + 5 x ) x 1 and 4 are negligible to = lim 5 x ( 1 + 5 5 x ) 5 x changing dummies = ( lim x ( 1 + 1 x ) x ) 5 = e 5 \displaystyle\begin{aligned}&\lim_{x\to\infty}(\frac{x+6}{x+1})^{x+4} \\=&\lim_{x\to\infty}(1+\frac{5}{x+1})^{x+4} \\=&\lim_{x\to\infty}(1+\frac{5}{x})^{x}&\text{1 and 4 are negligible to }\infty \\=&\lim_{5x\to\infty}(1+\frac{5}{5x})^{5x}&\text{changing dummies} \\=&(\lim_{x\to\infty}(1+\frac{1}{x})^x)^5 \\=&e^5\end{aligned}

i cant understand

Rahul Venam - 5 years, 1 month ago

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In which line do you not understand? I can explain it further.

展豪 張 - 5 years, 1 month ago

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how do you get line 2 from line 1 ?

Etaash Katiyar - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Etaash Katiyar x + 6 x + 1 = ( x + 1 ) + 5 x + 1 = 1 + 5 x + 1 \dfrac{x+6}{x+1}=\dfrac{(x+1)+5}{x+1}=1+\dfrac{5}{x+1}

展豪 張 - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@展豪 張 thank you!

Etaash Katiyar - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Etaash Katiyar You're very welcome.

展豪 張 - 5 years, 1 month ago

this makes sense now, i forgot about changing the variable

Alexander Fortuna III - 5 years, 1 month ago
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May 2, 2016

( x + 6 x + 1 ) x + 4 = ( x + 6 x + 1 ) x ( x + 6 x + 1 ) 4 (\frac{x+6}{x+1})^{x+4} = (\frac{x+6}{x+1})^{x}\cdot(\frac{x+6}{x+1})^{4}

lim x ( x + 6 x + 1 ) 4 = 1 \lim_{x \to \infty}(\frac{x+6}{x+1})^{4} = 1 so

lim x ( x + 6 x + 1 ) x + 4 = lim x ( x + 6 x + 1 ) x \lim_{x \to \infty}(\frac{x+6}{x+1})^{x+4} = \lim_{x \to \infty}(\frac{x+6}{x+1})^{x}

( x + 6 x + 1 ) x = e x l n [ ( x + 6 ) / ( x + 1 ) ] (\frac{x+6}{x+1})^{x} = e^{x\cdot ln[(x+6)/(x+1)]}

Instead of trying to find the limit of the function directly, first find the limit of its natural log

x l n ( x + 6 x + 1 ) = l n ( x + 6 x + 1 ) x 1 x \cdot ln(\frac{x+6}{x+1}) = \frac{ln(\frac{x+6}{x+1})}{x^{-1}}

As x goes to infinity the numerator and denominator both go to zero, so L'Hospital's Rule can be applied.

d d x l n ( x + 6 x + 1 ) = ( x + 6 ) 1 ( x + 1 ) 1 \frac{\mathrm d}{\mathrm d x} ln(\frac{x+6}{x+1}) = (x+6)^{-1} - (x+1)^{-1}

d d x x 1 = x 2 \frac{\mathrm d}{\mathrm d x} x^{-1} = -x^{-2}

lim x l n ( x + 6 x + 1 ) x 1 = lim x ( x + 6 ) 1 ( x + 1 ) 1 x 2 ( x + 6 ) ( x + 1 ) ( x + 6 ) ( x + 1 ) = \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{ln(\frac{x+6}{x+1})}{x^{-1}} = \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{(x+6)^{-1} - (x+1)^{-1}}{-x^{-2}} \cdot \frac{(x+6)(x+1)}{(x+6)(x+1)} =

= lim x 5 1 + 7 x 1 + 6 x 2 = 5 = \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{5}{1 + 7x^{-1} + 6x^{-2}} = 5

Thus

lim x ( x + 6 x + 1 ) x + 4 = e 5 \lim_{x \to \infty} (\frac{x+6}{x+1})^{x+4} = e^{5}

Use limit chain rule

Elaborate the solution ,please!

Anik Mandal - 5 years, 2 months ago

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If lim u b ( f ( u ) ) = L \lim_{u \to b} (f(u)) = L and lim x a ( g ( x ) ) = b \lim_{x \to a}(g(x)) = b , is continuous at x = b x=b . Then lim x a ( f ( g ( x ) ) ) = L \lim_{x \to a}(f(g(x))) = L .

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