A thin rod of rest length L = 3 R is parallel to the x -axis of an inertial system, S , and moves with constant speed, v = 2 3 c , in the positive x direction, remaining parallel to the x -axis, as shown in the figure. The center, D , of the rod is initially located at ( x , y , z ) = ( − h , h , 0 ) . The plane in the figure has a circular hole of radius R centered on the y -axis, is parallel to the x z -plane, and moves in the positive y direction at constant speed, v , remaining parallel to the x z -plane.
To an inertial observer moving along with the rod in an inertial system we can call S ′ , the point B reaches the x z -plane of S before point A , due to the relativity of simultaneity. Therefore, the plane is tilted for this observer, and the rod will pass through the hole without a collision. The plane and hole are rotated at an angle θ in the S ′ -observer's z ′ direction, i.e., the line connecting A and B makes an angle θ with the x ′ -axis.
Find the angle θ to the nearest tenth of a degree.
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An interesting aspect of this problem is that the two different observers in S and S ′ have different explanations for there being no collision between the plane and rod. In S the rod is length contracted so that its length is less than the diameter of the hole. In S ′ the plane containing the hole is tilted so that the longer rod can pass through.
The world-lines of the points A and B have coordinates ( c t , − R , v t , 0 ) ( c t , R , v t , 0 ) respectively. In the frame S ′ these can be written ( γ ( c t + c v R ) , γ ( − R − v t ) , v t , 0 ) ( γ ( c t − c v R ) , γ ( R − v t ) , v t , 0 ) respectively. Changing the time coordinates of both of these so that A and B can be considered simultaneously in S ′ , we have worldlines ( c τ , − v τ − γ − 1 R , γ v τ − c 2 v 2 R , 0 ) ( c τ , − v τ + γ − 1 R , γ v τ + c 2 v 2 R , 0 ) Thus the displacement vector A B has coordinates (in S ′ ) ⎝ ⎛ 2 γ − 1 R 2 c 2 v 2 R 0 ⎠ ⎞ Thus the angle θ satisfies tan θ = c 2 v 2 γ For this problem, we have tan θ = 2 3 , and so θ = 5 6 . 3 ∘ .
Although this is not necessary to solve the problem, it is worth noting how we can show that the rod does indeed slip through the hole successfully. In S ′ , we have A B = ⎝ ⎛ R 2 3 R 0 ⎠ ⎞ while the common velocity of A and B is ⎝ ⎛ − v 2 1 v 0 ⎠ ⎞ Thus the gap between A and B is available (for the rod to pass through) for a time of 2 1 v 2 3 R = v 3 R , which is precisely the time that a rod of length 3 R will take to travel through the gap.
Nice solution. However, it appears that you have an extraneous minus sign in the x ′ coordinate for point A in the second line of equations. That typo doesn't affect you result because you dropped it in your subsequent calculation. Also, it appears that you are using the letter τ for the time coordinate in S ′ , which confused me at first, having always seen τ used for proper time. A more standard notation for the time in S ′ would be t ′ .
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Isn't it actually possible for a rod of length 4 R to get through this hole? From the point of view of S , the rod has length 4 R γ − 1 = 2 R , so fits in the hole. From the point of view of S ′ , the tilting of the hole means that the rod has a time v 3 R to get through the hole. Since the passage of the hole starts when B meets the leading end of the rod, so the point A has already passed the leading R of the rod (the hole is only R wide in S ′ ), this time v 3 R is the time it takes for A to get past the remaining 3 R of the rod.
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Please check your calculation of the width of the hole in S ′ by determining the length of your displacement vector. I do not find it to be R . While it is true that a circle at rest is S would be an ellipse of minor axis R as determined in S ′ , remember that the plate with the hole has a component of velocity in the y direction. Also, B is actually to the right of the left end of the rod by R/2 when B reaches y ′ = h. When A reaches y ′ = h, the left end of the rod is to the right of A by R/2. This means that the rod of length 3R has R/2 clearance at each end when the hole passes by. Therefore a rod of rest length 4R would just miss colliding with, first B, then A.
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@Dale Gray – My point, which you agree with, is that a rod of length 4 R would fit through. The question states that the rod has length 3 R .
Your calculations here are for the details of a rod of length 3 R . My ones in the comment above (not my solution) are for a rod of length 4 R .
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@Mark Hennings – Yes, I know. However, did you notice my remark about your parenthetic statement? The hole does not have a width of R in S ′ . In your solution you gave the displacement vector from A to B. If you use that to calculate the distance from A to B you will not get R. You will get approximately 1.8R.
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@Dale Gray – Obviously. Let us agree that the x - component of the width of the hole is R , which is the quantity I was using in my argument.
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@Mark Hennings – Yes, I agree with that statement. I have enjoyed discussing this problem with you and think we are in agreement on everything now.
Typo corrected. As the time-coordinate of the frame S ′ , τ is the proper time of the rod.
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Sorry, when I first looked at your solution, I thought you were using the proper time along the world lines of A and B and couldn't figure out how.
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Solution: Consider an inertial reference frame S ′ with axes x ′ , y ′ , and z ′ coinsiding with x , y , and z at time t = t ′ = 0 , and moving with constant speed, v , in the positive x direction relative to S . The velocity vector of the point labeled A on the plane, relative to S , has components ( u x , u y , u z ) = ( 0 , v , 0 ) . The velocity vector for point B is also ( u x , u y , u z ) = ( 0 , v , 0 ) . Using the velocity transformation
u x ′ u y ′ u z ′ = ( 1 − c 2 u x v ) u x − v = γ ( 1 − c 2 u x v ) u y = γ ( 1 − c 2 u x v ) u z ,
where γ = 1 − c 2 v 2 1 , to find the velocity vectors for A and B relative to S ′ gives ( u x ′ , u y ′ , u z ′ ) = ( − v , γ v , 0 ) for both A and B . The equations of motion of points A and B relative to S ′ are x A ′ y A ′ z A ′ = = = u x ′ t ′ + x A 0 ′ = − v t ′ + x A 0 ′ u y ′ t ′ + y A 0 ′ = γ v t ′ + y A 0 ′ u z ′ t ′ + z A 0 ′ = z A 0 ′ , where ( x A 0 ′ , y A 0 ′ , z A 0 ′ ) are the coordinates of A , relative to S ′ at time t ′ = 0 . Similarly, for point B x B ′ y B ′ z B ′ = = = u x ′ t ′ + x B 0 ′ = − v t ′ + x B 0 ′ u y ′ t ′ + y B 0 ′ = γ v t ′ + y B 0 ′ u z ′ t ′ + z B 0 ′ = z B 0 ′ . The Lorentz transformation, given in the figure, allows determination of the initial values, x A 0 ′ , etc. The coordinates of A relative to S at time t = 0 are ( x A , y A , z A ) = ( − R , 0 , 0 ) and those of B are ( x B , y B , z B ) = ( R , 0 , 0 ) . The Lorentz transformation gives ( x A ′ , y A ′ , z A ′ ) = ( − R γ , 0 , 0 ) at time t ′ = c 2 v γ R . and ( x B ′ , y B ′ , z B ′ ) = ( R γ , 0 , 0 ) at time t ′ = − c 2 v γ R . Substitution gives − R γ 0 0 = = = − c 2 v 2 γ R + x A 0 ′ c 2 v 2 R + y A 0 ′ z A 0 ′ . and R γ 0 0 = = = c 2 v 2 γ R + x B 0 ′ − c 2 v 2 R + y B 0 ′ z B 0 ′ . Solving for the initial positions of points A and B relative to S ′ gives x A 0 ′ y A 0 ′ z A 0 ′ = = = − R γ ( 1 − c 2 v 2 ) = − γ R − c 2 v 2 R 0 . and x B 0 ′ y B 0 ′ z B 0 ′ = = = γ R c 2 v 2 R 0 . At any time t ′ in S ′ , x A ′ y A ′ z A ′ = = = − v t ′ − γ R γ v t ′ − c 2 v 2 R 0 and x B ′ y B ′ z B ′ = = = − v t ′ + γ R γ v t ′ + c 2 v 2 R 0 . Therefore, at any time t ′ in S ′ , the line segment connecting points A and B has slope m ′ = Δ x ′ Δ y ′ = x B ′ − x A ′ y B ′ − y A ′ = c 2 v 2 γ . If v = ( 3 / 2 ) c , as stated in the problem, then γ = 2 and m ′ = 3 / 2 . If θ is the angle between the x ′ direction and the line in S ′ connecting A and B in S ′ , then tan θ = m ′ = 2 3 . Therefore, θ = tan − 1 ( 3 / 2 ) = 5 6 . 3 ∘ .