A page (with 2 page numbers, front and back) has been torn out of a magazine. The sum of the page numbers on the remaining pages is 525. What is the sum of the page numbers on the page torn out?
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As for your challenge at the end: The answer is no . See my solution elsewhere on this page.
??? We are talking about the SUM, not the product...there could be one and only one solution if one remember and understands one's Gauss...261-262-263-264....why complicate things?
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But how does one argue that there is exactly one solution?
There is only one solution being the page that was torn out was the first page. You can construct 2 equations with two variables yielding 2 real (thankfully) equations.
The equations are;
The sum of the of the pages minus the sum of page x and page x+1 = 525
The sum of the pages from 1 up to page x-1 plus the sum of pages x+2 up to page n = 525
In the first case the missing pages are assigned negative value, in the second we jump over the gap, forgetting they are there (or that they're not).
The first is inclusive, the second exclusive, both distinct and therefore give solutions.
The problem doesn't specify which page was torn. If it was the first one, the answer will be 3. I don't get it!
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It doesn't have to. There is only one number of total pages, and one choice of page that is torn, that produces the answer 525.
The problem is to find out the page which is torn.....🤣
The sum of the numbers on p pages = 2p^2 + p The numbers on any page n (torn out or not) = 4n - 1 So 2p^2 + p = 4n - 1 + 525 The sum increases with the square of the number of pages but the 'value' of any single page increases linearly with its page number. They must cross over above 525 so I looked for the first value of p which gave a sum greater than 525. This is 16 which gives 528. Therefore 4n - 1 = 3 so n = 1. If you increase p any more then n > p for 2p^2 + p - (4n - 1) to be 525. The ripped out page number can increase if the remaining sum is lower. eg, if the remaining sum was 497 then you had to rip out page 8 (but there were still 16 pages in the book).
Why did you mention in assumptions that the numbers are there before and after the page was torn. The second asumption was misleading. It lead to assuming that a middle page was torn If first page is torn then there is no page before it. You intentonally put it in for confusion.
Thanks for helping me
There is no solution to the problem. The constraint that there must be a page left in the 'magazine' that precedes the page that is torn out means that you cannot tear out the first page. [The "remaining pages" include the pages before and after the page torn out.] Without that constraint the solution would be as Andy described.
In rereading the problem, I see it is possible to read the "remaining pages" as an "OR" rather than an "AND", as a reminder to count any pages on either side of the torn out page, not a requirement that there be remaining pages on either side of the torn out page.
I think nonetheless that, in the way the problemas is stated, there is no solution. Every page has a front and back number, meaning that all the last numbers will be even. The magazine can only sum 31 (32)/2 or 33 (34)/2, both of which are imposible to solve (with these parameters)
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If the last page number is 2, then the sum is 1 + 2 = 2 2 ⋅ 3 = 3 . If the last page number is 4, then the sum is 1 + ⋯ + 4 = 2 4 ⋅ 5 = 1 0 . Continuing this pattern: if the last page number is 32, then the sum is 1 + ⋯ + 3 2 = 2 3 2 ⋅ 3 3 = 5 2 8 . And if the last page number is 34, then the sum is 1 + ⋯ + 3 4 = 2 3 4 ⋅ 3 5 = 5 9 5 . The sums you propose, 3 1 ⋅ 3 2 / 2 and 3 3 ⋅ 3 4 / 2 , are only possible if the last page number is odd .
How i came to the solution: First i counted how manny pages the total book should have (i did this page by page so two numbers at a time): 1+2 +3+4 +5+6 +7+8 etc. Then at the end you will have 465+31+32 = 528. This number is more than the the total number of remaining pages so i took this number as "the total" and went on. What sum of numbers that have a difference of 1 = 3? Obviously 1 + 2 = 3 (Im 13 years old and not that great at math so please tell me if this is a correct way of solving this problem).
The problem is stated wrong. It starts off with "A page (with 2 page numbers)..." It is not a "page." It is a SHEET out of a book. The sheet consists of TWO pages.
This solution derives the specific Diophantine Equations, and is a more advanced answer for the curious.
First, as in Andy's solution we assume the book has n numbered page sides and we tear out the page starting with k , and we want to solve:
5 2 5 = 2 n ( n + 1 ) − ( 2 k + 1 )
which after a little rearrangement becomes
4 k = n 2 + n − 1 0 5 2
Note since n and k are both integers, and 1052 is divisible by 4, that n 2 + n must be divisible by 4. Now, consider every possible value of n from 0 to 3 modulo 4:
0 2 + 0 = 0 1 2 + 1 = 2 2 2 + 2 = 6 3 2 + 3 = 1 2 ≡ 0 m o d 4 ≡ 2 m o d 4 ≡ 2 m o d 4 ≡ 0 m o d 4
This means that, for all integers t , n must equal either 4 t (when n is 0 modulo 4) or 4 t + 3 (when n is 3 modulo 4).
First consider n = 4 t :
4 k 4 k 4 k k = n 2 + n − 1 0 5 2 = ( 4 t ) 2 + ( 4 t ) − 1 0 5 2 = 1 6 t 2 + 4 t − 1 0 5 2 = 4 t 2 + t − 2 6 3
Now, when n = 4 t + 3 :
4 k 4 k 4 k 4 k k = n 2 + n − 1 0 5 2 = ( 4 t + 3 ) 2 + ( 4 t + 3 ) − 1 0 5 2 = 1 6 t 2 + 2 4 t + 9 + 4 t + 3 − 1 0 5 2 = 1 6 t 2 + 2 8 t − 1 0 4 0 = 4 t 2 + 7 t − 2 6 0
Note that k (the page number torn) must be positive, which holds in both equations only when t ≥ 8 .
When t = 8 , using the first equation yields n = 4 t = 3 2 and k = 4 ( 6 4 ) + 8 − 2 6 3 = 1 . This corresponds to tearing the page starting with 1 out of a book numbered to 32.
When t = 8 , using the second equation yields n = 4 t + 3 = 3 5 and k = 4 ( 6 4 ) + 7 ( 8 ) − 2 6 0 = 5 2 . This corresponds to tearing page 52 out of a book numbered to 35, which is impossible.
t = 9 gets impossible values in both cases. Note, since t 2 will outgrow t , that the page number being torn will be larger than the number of pages in the book for all t > 8 . Therefore tearing page 1 out of a book numbered to 32 is the only solution.
I think you mean there are 16 two sided pages. Depends on how you define 'page'; a single sheet or a single side of two sided sheet.
Let N be the number of sheets in the magazine (numbered 1 through 2 N ), then the sum of all page numbers is Σ = 2 1 ( 2 N ) ( 2 N + 1 ) = 2 N 2 + N . Let 1 ≤ p ≤ N be the number of the missing sheet; the sum of its page numbers is ( 2 p − 1 ) + 2 p = 4 p − 1 . Thus we must solve 2 N 2 + N − ( 4 p − 1 ) = S , where S is the sum of remaining page numbers. For the minimum value p = 1 and the maximum value p = N we find solutions 2 N − 2 + N − − ( S + 3 ) = 0 ∴ N − = 4 1 ( 2 5 + 8 S − 1 ) . 2 N + 2 − 3 N + − ( S + 1 ) = 0 ∴ N + = 4 1 ( 1 7 + 8 S + 3 ) . The difference between these extremes is N + − N − = 4 1 ( 4 − ( 2 5 + 8 S − 1 7 + 8 S ) ) < 1 , so that there is at most one integer value between these two extremes; this integer provides the solution, if any exists.
With the given value S = 5 2 5 , we have N − = 4 1 ( 4 2 2 5 − 1 ) = 1 6 ; there is no need to check that N + ≈ 1 6 . 9 8 because we already have a solution in N = N − = 1 6 , and we know that N + < 1 6 + 1 = 1 7 .
Thus there are 16 sheets (32 pages), and the missing sheet is the first one, p = 1 , with sum of page numbers 1 + 2 = 3 .
Interesting observation
The sum of remaining page numbers is a function S ( N , p ) for 1 ≤ p ≤ N which can be defined recursively:
A magazine with no sheets is a magazine with one sheet, which is ripped out. Thus S ( 1 , 1 ) = 0 .
Put a ripped out page back in the magazine, and instead rip out the one before that. Since the two ripped-out page numbers are now two less than before, this increases the sum by 4. Thus S ( N , p − 1 ) = S ( N , p ) + 4 .
If the first sheet (pages 1 and 2) are ripped out, put them back in; this increases the sum by 3. Now add a page to the end of the magazine (increasing N by 1), and rip it out. We find S ( N + 1 , N + 1 ) = S ( N , 1 ) + 3 .
This pattern is illustrated below:
( N , p ) ( 1 , 1 ) ( 2 , 2 ) ( 2 , 1 ) ( 3 , 3 ) ( 3 , 2 ) ( 3 , 1 ) ( 4 , 4 ) ( 4 , 3 ) ⋮ S ( N , p ) 0 3 7 1 0 1 4 1 8 2 1 2 5
It states that the remaining page total numbers come to 525 which are before and after the page torn out. So how can the page torn out be the first page - 1 and 2 with no pages before it?
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It includes the 30 pages after and the zero pages before, apparently. :)
There are many solutions to n*(n+1)/2 - 525 being odd and greater than zero. 3 is the first but didn't seem to fit the description.
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Perhaps, but there are no other solutions where n is even and 2 1 n ( n + 1 ) − 5 2 5 less than or equal to 2 n + 1 .
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So 528 is the obvious next value above 525 which satisfies the formula.
528-525 = 3
Sorry about the formatting!
I thought it was saying the magazine had 525 pages as a standard publication, and one page was torn out. Also... "magazine" is the wrong term...as that is WAY TOO MANY pages for a "magazine"... unless we are talking about a "digest" format... and even then--that is too much. The complete Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy trilogy of six (plus a short story of how Zaphod Plays it Safe) is roughly ~850 pages. So yeah... magazine is the EXACT wrong term here. As most novels are only about ~200 pages in length. Hell, the screen plays for the original Star Wars trilogy script is roughly ~388 pages long (one page of script is roughly one minute of movie time)... that is minus all the lighting and set details. This puzzle has a major common sense violation. Tell me a magazine that regularly has ~600 pages in a publication... and I'll tell you something I can smack people with.
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Read carefully: It does not say that there are 525 pages left, but that the sum of the page numbers of the remaining pages is 525: 5 2 5 = 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 1 0 + 1 1 + 1 2 + 1 3 + 1 4 + 1 5 + 1 6 + 1 7 + 1 8 + 1 9 + 2 0 + 2 1 + 2 2 + 2 3 + 2 4 + 2 5 + 2 6 + 2 7 + 2 8 + 2 9 + 3 0 + 3 1 + 3 2 .
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@Arjen Vreugdenhil Naw, I read correct. The question is different today. As I gave it the same answer I gave it yesterday, and it was listed as wrong, and then I gave it a new answer... and it was correct. They literally changed the question since I answered it. Which is fucking annoying at the very least (Also... no clue how to do new lines/carriage returns in latex).
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@Katrina Payne – Notice how Arjen's reply was in the same day as your first comment? Don't lie about the question changing to mask your mistake. :)
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. And no, the answer did not change as far as I can tell. I posted a solution 6 days ago, and at that time it was stated correctly. Too bad you were confused about it, though.
From the assumptions, since there are numbers on both sides of every page in this magazine, the final page number of this magazine is an even number. And since a page has been torn from the magazine, the sum of all the page numbers including that page is greater than 525. If n is the final page number of this magazine:
i = 1 ∑ n i = 2 n ( n + 1 ) > 5 2 5 n 2 + n − 1 0 5 0 > 0 R e l e v a n t a n s w e r : n > 2 − 1 + 4 2 0 1 ≈ 3 1 . 9 1
Edit: The remainder of my explanation mirrored Andy Hayes's a little too much, so I've thought of a different one.
The sum of the page numbers on the missing page is the sum of the pages numbers of the intact magazine minus 525. This has a maximum, the sum of the page numbers on the last page. So, using the same n :
2 n ( n + 1 ) − 5 2 5 ≤ n + ( n − 1 ) n 2 − 3 n − 1 0 4 8 ≤ 0 R e l e v a n t a n s w e r : n ≤ 2 3 + 4 2 0 1 ≈ 3 3 . 9 1
Remember that n is an even integer. And the only even integer that fits those two parameters is 3 2 . Therefore:
2 3 2 ∗ 3 3 − 5 2 5 = 3 □
One can imply from this that the first page was removed (1+2).
the sum of consecutive numbers from 1 that is closest to (but greater than) the sum of the remaining pages (525) is 528. this gives a difference of 3. the only page numbering that will equal the difference is page 1 plus 2. this gives a sum of 3. not too complicated despite the 'red herring' in the 'details and assumptions' that states that: the numbering begins with 1 on the front of the first page. the "remaining pages" include the pages BEFORE and after the page torn out, implying that the missing page was numbered 3 or greater since there were no pages before page 1.
Finding n = 1 ∑ 3 2 x gives 528, which is 3 more than the remaining sum. The two pages numbers that were taken out were one and two, meaning 3 is the correct answer.
Let n be the number of pages where n is any positive integer. The sum of the numbers on any page is 4n-1. The sum of all pages is the sum of all values from 1 to n for (4n-1). (I regret the text notation limits - pun intended). Let x be the number of the missing page. The sum of all pages in the magazine is 525 + 4x-1 or 524 + 4x. The only value that satisfies both equations is n = 16 (Sum from 1 to n = 528) and x = 1 (4x-1 = 3). Their are 16 pages (two sided, single sheet per page) in the magazine and the first page is missing.
A page... I see that it doesn't say "only the pages before and after" but really I'm sticking with 525 and getting back onto my electric steam train.
The correct answer could also be 70. Basically, with a magazine which is saddle stitched, when you tear out a page (for example to cover), the back cover also comes off. So, if you remove page 1 & 2 (like the above solutions), you will also take out the back pages - in this case 31 and 32, making a total of 1+2+31+32, or 66, leaving 462 pages. However if you have a 34 page magazine, if you take out pages 1 & 2, you also take out pages 33 and 34, making a total of 1+2+33+34 = 70. The total was 595 (1+2+...+34). Take off the 70 leaves you with the 525 as given in the question. So the total of the pages that have come out is 70.
I have to learn to hear what the writer of a question WANTS, not what he SAYS, because most test writers aren't as good at expressing their question as they are at doing whatever their field is. I thought this must be a trick question. "A page (with 2 page numbers, front and back) has been torn out of a magazine. The sum of the page numbers on the remaining pages is 525. What is the sum of the page numbers on the page torn out?" It says "2 PAGE NUMBERS". That's one page number on one side and 1 page number on the other, the sum being 3 page numbers. I don't care what the sum of page numbers are that are left in the book! Nothing is going to change the fact that the sum of 1 of anything and 1 more of anything, is TWO. If author wanted the individual digits of each number added, they should have said so. I guess linguistics is more up my alley than math :) and yes, I know I ended a sentence with "is" but figured that none of you would notice.
I know this is very dumb, but I used a calculator and did: 1+2+3+4...+32+33=528. The different between 525 and 528 is 3!! (I know, it's the dumbest way to figure this out, and no it didn't take me long to do the calculator method.)
Suppose the document had nn pages. The sum of the page numbers is n(n+1)2.n(n+1)2. Suppose the removed page had numbers xx and xx+1+1with m odd. The removed page had a total of 2x+1.2x+1. Therefore,
n(n+1)2−2x+1=525,n(n+1)2−2x+1=525, or in frictionless form n2+n−4x−1048=0.n2+n−4x−1048=0. So 16x+420916x+4209 must be a perfect square, say m2m2. The only value of x which does the trick is 1. So the sum of the removed pages is 3.
Note then, that n=32.
We solve for coefficients of a quadratic using Method of Differences and obtain an expression for the sum of first n pages: S ( n ) = ( n + 1 ) ( 2 n + 3 ) . The largest solution for ( n + 1 ) ( 2 n + 3 ) = 5 2 5 is about 1 5 . Plugging in 1 5 gives ( 1 5 + 1 ) ( 3 0 + 3 ) = 5 2 8 . Sum on all pages is odd. 5 2 8 − 3 = 5 2 5 hence the sum of the page numbers on the page torn out is 3 .
For me with my limited math skills It was a matter of attacking the problem from the right "angle"(or side to more precise)..:) My first attempt was to find the number of remaining pages (sum 525),assuming the last page was torn out.Soon i realised there was no way to arrive at 525 by this assumption.so i tried to assume the torn out page was on the beginning of the book,and voila!!!! I know ,not very mathematical but thats all i ve got :)
I went the dirty way. Found out the closest sum upto 525 which was sum of n=32 would be 528. Just add the sum of page 1 & 2 which gives you the answer. But the ideal way would be how Andy solved it with the equation.
I, too, went the dirty way. Assuming an even number of pages (natch), the sum of all pages must exceed 525. A magazine with 32 pages is the first that meets that specific criteria. The sum of all pages in a 32-page magazine is 548, not 528 as previously determined. Subtracting 525 from 548 leaves us with 23. If n represents the first missing page and (n + 1) represents the second missing page, then [n + (n + 1)] = 23. Simplifying the expression, 2n +1 = 23, 2n = 23 - 1, 2n = 22, n = 11. So, the missing pages are numbered 11 and (11 + 1), or 12.
Let R k be the sum of the recto (front side) page numbers on the first k sheets of the book, and V k be the sum of the corresponding verso page numbers.
The verso page number of sheet k is 2 k , so V k = 2 ( 1 + . . . + k ) = k ( k + 1 ) = k 2 + k .
Each recto page number of one less than its corresponding verso page, so R k = V k − k = k 2 .
So the page numbers of the first k sheets sum to N k = R k + V k = 2 k 2 + k .
We need to find k such that N k > 5 2 5 and N k − 5 2 5 is odd (since a single sheet's page numbers always sum to an odd number). Since N k is even iff k is even, we need the smallest even k such that N k > 525.
Solving x 2 + x = 5 2 5 yields x ≈ 1 5 . 9 5 (ignoring the negative root). So our our book has k = 1 6 sheets in total.
The missing sheet's page numbers sum to N k − 5 2 5 = 5 2 8 − 5 2 5 = 3 . (So it is sheet #1.)
Note: Going beyond 16 sheets won't work. If we suppose two more sheets (since k must be even), we'd have N 1 8 − 5 2 5 = 1 4 1 which would correspond to sheet #35.5, which is not only not a sheet number, but is nearly twice the size of the book. The gap between the required missing sheet number and the size of the book only grows with larger books, so even for book sizes that yield an integral missing sheet number, that sheet number will be larger than the book size. (E.g. a 20-page book would need page #69 ripped out.)
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Relevant wiki: Sum of n, n², or n³
The sum of the n pages is 2 n ( n + 1 ) (see this wiki ). Let k be the number on the front of the page torn out. So the sum of the numbers of the page torn out is k + k + 1 = 2 k + 1 (note that this number is always odd). Then the sum of the page numbers of the remaining pages is
5 2 5 = 2 n ( n + 1 ) − ( 2 k + 1 )
This looks complicated now, but we can estimate. Instead of the big expression on the right, use:
5 2 5 1 0 5 0 n ≈ 2 n 2 ≈ n 2 ≈ 3 2
Suppose the number of pages is n = 3 2 . Then the sum of the page numbers is 2 ( 3 2 ) ( 3 3 ) = 5 2 8
This means that the sum of the torn out page numbers is 1 + 2 = 3 . This could be possible if the first page is torn out (page numbers 1 and 2).
Is it possible that there is more than one solution?
First, note that there must be an even number of page numbers. Suppose that there were n = 3 0 page numbers. Then the sum of the page numbers is 2 ( 3 0 ) ( 3 1 ) = 4 6 5 . This is too low, so it wouldn't be possible.
Now suppose that there were n = 3 4 page numbers. Then the sum of the page numbers is 2 ( 3 4 ) ( 3 5 ) = 5 9 5 . This would make the sum of the torn out page numbers 5 9 5 − 5 2 5 = 7 0 . However, the sum of the torn out page numbers must be odd.
Now suppose that there were n = 3 6 page numbers. Then the sum of the page numbers is 2 ( 3 5 ) ( 3 6 ) = 6 6 6 . This would make the sum of the torn out page numbers 6 6 6 − 5 2 5 = 1 4 1 . This is odd, but the page numbers would have to be 70 and 71. Not only is this not possible because of the numbering scheme (lower number is always odd), but these numbers are higher than the highest page number! We can then see that any number of higher pages is also impossible.
Now, if you're really up for a challenge, see if it is possible that there is ever more than one solution with n page numbers, one page torn out, and the sum of remaining page numbers S .