A Strange Cevian

Geometry Level 2

Triangle A B C ABC is such that A B = 13 , B C = 14 , AB = 13, BC = 14, and C A = 15. CA = 15. A point D D on B C BC is placed such that A B + B D = A C + C D . AB + BD = AC + CD. Let X X be the intersection of A D AD with the incircle of A B C ABC closest to A . A. Find the length of B X . BX.


The answer is 10.

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3 solutions

Ariel Gershon
Feb 14, 2016

I used analytic geometry to help me here. Place point B B on the origin with B C \overline{BC} on the x-axis. Then C = ( 14 , 0 ) C = (14,0) .

By the Law of Cosines, cos ( A B C ) = 1 3 2 + 1 4 2 1 5 2 2 13 14 = 5 13 \cos(\angle ABC) = \dfrac{13^2+14^2-15^2}{2*13*14} = \dfrac{5}{13} . Therefore, sin ( A B C ) = 12 13 \sin(\angle ABC) = \dfrac{12}{13} , and thus A = ( 5 , 12 ) A = (5, 12) .

The semiperimeter, s s , of the triangle is 13 + 14 + 15 2 = 21 \dfrac{13+14+15}{2} = 21 . The formula for the radius of the incircle is: r = ( s a ) ( s b ) ( s c ) s = ( 21 13 ) ( 21 14 ) ( 21 15 ) 21 = 4 r = \sqrt{\dfrac{(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)}{s}} = \sqrt{\dfrac{(21-13)(21-14)(21-15)}{21}} = 4

Let E , F , G E, F, G be the points of tangency of the circle to the sides A B , B C , C A \overline{AB}, \overline{BC}, \overline{CA} respectively. Let p = A E = A G ; q = B E = B F ; r = C F = C G p = \overline{AE} = \overline{AG}; q = \overline{BE} = \overline{BF}; r = \overline{CF} = \overline{CG} . Then we have this system of equations:

{ p + q = 13 q + r = 14 r + p = 15 \left\{\begin{array}{lr} p + q = 13 \\ q + r = 14 \\ r + p = 15 \end{array} \right.

Solving this, we get p = 7 , q = 6 , r = 8 p = 7, q = 6, r = 8 . Therefore, F = ( 6 , 0 ) F = (6, 0) .

Therefore, the centre of the circle is ( 6 , 4 ) (6, 4) , so its equation is ( x 6 ) 2 + ( y 4 ) 2 = 16 (x - 6)^2 + (y - 4)^2 = 16 .

Since A B + B D = A C + C D AB + BD = AC + CD , and since B D + C D = 14 BD + CD = 14 , we get that B D = 8 \overline{BD} = 8 and C D = 6 \overline{CD} = 6 . Therefore D = ( 8 , 0 ) D = (8, 0) .

Therefore, the equation of the line A D \overline{AD} is: y 12 0 12 = x 5 8 5 \dfrac{y - 12}{0 - 12} = \dfrac{x - 5}{8 - 5} y = 4 x + 32 y = -4x + 32

Now we just need to find the intersection point of the circle and the line:

( x 6 ) 2 + ( 4 x + 32 4 ) 2 = 16 (x - 6)^2 + (-4x + 32 - 4)^2 = 16 x 2 12 x + 36 + 16 x 2 224 x + 784 = 16 x^2 - 12x + 36 + 16x^2 - 224x + 784 = 16 17 x 2 236 x + 804 = 0 17x^2 - 236x + 804 = 0 ( 17 x 134 ) ( x 6 ) = 0 (17x - 134)(x - 6) = 0 Thus x = 6 x = 6 or x = 134 17 x = \dfrac{134}{17} . Thus, the two possibilities for X X are ( 6 , 8 ) (6, 8) and ( 134 17 , 9 17 ) \left(\dfrac{134}{17}, \dfrac{9}{17}\right) . The former is clearly closer to A A .

Thus, B X = 6 2 + 8 2 = 10 \overline{BX} = \sqrt{6^2+8^2} = \boxed{10} .

Steven Yuan
Dec 30, 2014

Point D D is actually the tangency point of the A A -excircle with B C . BC. Also, X X is the "top" part of the incircle i.e. the diametrically opposite point from the tangency point of the incircle with B C . BC. Let Y Y be the point of tangency of B C BC with the incircle. It is clear that B X Y BXY is a right triangle. We have X Y = 2 r = 8 XY = 2r = 8 and B Y = s b = 21 15 = 6 , BY = s - b = 21 - 15 = 6, so from the Pythagorean Theorem, B X = 10 . BX = \boxed{10}.

Exactly the SAME solution here! Just a few details which may let others appreciate the reasoning here.

The fact that D D is the touch point of the excircle is because of the given property: A B + B D = A C + C D AB+BD = AC+CD . Why? Because when you draw the excircle out and use the property that tangents from a point to a circle measure equally, you can actually prove that C D = s b CD' = s-b and B D = s c BD' = s-c , where D D' is the touch point. Obviously D D' and D D coincide.

Next use the marvellous technique of h o m o t h e t y homothety : The excircle is basically the incircle magnified about A A : So, All corresponding points of mapping lie on a line passing through A A , viz. the centres of the circles and A A are collinear: Less obviously: The vertically uppermost (*see note) point of each circle and A A are collinear. D D is that point for the excircle, So X X must be "that" point for the incircle. So, the diametrically opposite point to X X is where the incircle touches B C BC (which is the vertically downmost!). And so forth!

(**) "The vertically uppermost" can be defined without ambiguity, that is why it can be used as a criterion of correspondence in homothety: The point on the circle, closest to the line through A A parallel to B C BC . The wording "vertically uppermost "may not be the most appropriate however! :D

Aditya Kumar - 6 years, 5 months ago

Could you list out the theorems and formulas we need to know in order to solve the question in your way? I'm a high school freshman, and doing it with a coordinate graph and basic algebra and geometry was a big hassle. Thanks.

Ryan Wang - 5 years, 3 months ago

Why BY= s-b ????

saurabh balyan - 2 years, 3 months ago
Ajit Athle
Dec 30, 2014

Can this be drawn in Geogebra to verify that BX is exactly 10? My answer was close to 10.1 using Stewart's Theorem for Tr. ABD which would suggest that X is not exactly opposite the point of tangency on BC.

I am guessing calculating A X , X D , A D AX, XD, AD must have been torturous! Do share!

Aditya Kumar - 6 years, 5 months ago

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Perhaps you can help me find my error: We know that AD=8, CD =6. 8x15² + 6x13² = 14(48+AD²) which gives AD =3√17. Let's assume the incircle touches side AB in P. Then, AP=(13+15 -14)/2=7 and furtherAP²=AXxAD which in turn yields, AX=49/(3√17) giving XD=104/(3√17). Now applying Stewart's Theorem once again in Tr. ABD, we can say: 49/(3√17)x 8² + 104/(3√17)x 13² = 3√17(49 104/(9 17)+ BX²) which finally gives BX~=10.103. -- Please try and see where I am in error.

Ajit Athle - 6 years, 5 months ago

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D D isn't on the incircle, so we can't use power of a point i.e. A P 2 = A X ( A D ) , AP^2 = AX(AD), which you stated in your solution.

Happy new year!

Steven Yuan - 6 years, 5 months ago

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@Steven Yuan Thanks, Steven. Happy New Year to all.

Ajit Athle - 6 years, 5 months ago

Same here, but i use ceva instead of power of point

Reynan Henry - 6 years, 5 months ago

Check out my solution; I used analytic geometry. Although, I see you posted this over a year ago so maybe you don't even remember this question :)

Ariel Gershon - 5 years, 4 months ago

Same. Did the same asOne Top

Alan T - 3 years, 5 months ago

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