A troublesome point!

Geometry Level 5

Triangle A B C ABC has side lengths A B = 3 AB=3 , B C = 4 BC=4 and A C = 5 AC=5 . Let M M be a point in the triangle. Compute the minimum possible value of A M 2 + B M 2 + C M 2 . AM^2+BM^2+CM^2. If the answer is of the form a b \dfrac{a}{b} , where a a and b b are positive coprime integers, submit your answer as a + b a+b .


The answer is 53.

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3 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
Apr 18, 2017

Let the vertices be A ( 0 , 3 ) A(0,3) , B ( 0 , 0 ) B(0,0) and C ( 4 , 0 ) C(4,0) and M ( x , y ) M(x,y) . Then we have:

S = A M 2 + B M 2 + C M 2 = x 2 + ( 3 y ) 2 + x 2 + y 2 + ( 4 x ) 2 + y 2 = x 2 + 9 6 y + y 2 + x 2 + y 2 + 16 8 x + x 2 + y 2 = 3 x 2 + 3 y 2 8 x 6 y + 25 = 3 ( x 2 8 3 x + 16 9 ) + 3 ( y 2 2 y + 1 ) + 50 3 = 3 ( x 4 3 ) 2 + 3 ( y 1 ) 2 + 50 3 \begin{aligned} S & = AM^2+BM^2+CM^2 \\ & = x^2 + (3-y)^2 + x^2+y^2+(4-x)^2+y^2 \\ & = x^2+9-6y+y^2+x^2+y^2+16-8x+x^2+y^2 \\ & = 3x^2+3y^2-8x-6y+25 \\ & = 3 \left( x^2 - \frac 83 x + \frac {16}9 \right) + 3 \left(y^2 -2y+1 \right) + \frac {50}3 \\ & = 3 \left( x - \frac 43 \right)^2 + 3 \left(y -1 \right)^2 + \frac {50}3 \end{aligned}

S \implies S is minimum, when x 4 3 = 0 x - \dfrac 43 = 0 and y 1 = 0 y-1=0 and S m i n = 50 3 S_{min} = \dfrac {50}3 . a + b = 50 + 3 = 53 \implies a+b = 50+3 = \boxed{53}

It's actually the Fermat's point but @Chew-Seong Cheong but my answer and yours are not he same.

Ashutosh Kumar - 4 years, 1 month ago

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It is the centroid, and not the Fermat's point.

Shourya Pandey - 4 years, 1 month ago

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But it's the Fermat's point that gives the total distance from the three vertices of the triangle to the point minimum,right???? I am not sure?

Ashutosh Kumar - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Ashutosh Kumar Here, it is the sum of the squares of the distances asked in the problem, and not the sum of the distances.

Shourya Pandey - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Shourya Pandey Yes i understood about it later

Ashutosh Kumar - 4 years ago
Aziz Alasha
May 21, 2017

Let S = AM² + BM² + CM², S = 3x²+3y²-8x-6y+25, S is a partial funtion of x and y , to minimize this function ; First , take partial derivatives with respect to x and equate it to zero : ds/dx = 6x-6 =0 , x =1 the second step is to take partial derivatives with respect to y and equate it to zero : ds/dy = 6y-8 =0 , y = 8/6, substitute the values of x and y int the main function of S , hence S= 50/3 = a/b , a+b = 53

Shourya Pandey
Apr 21, 2017

Put masses of 1 k g 1 kg each on the three vertices A , B , C A,B,C . The centre of mass of this system is simply A + B + C 3 \frac{A+B+C}{3} , which is the centroid G G of the triangle.

Take any point M M in the plane of the triangle, make an axis a M a_{M} through it and orthogonal to the plane of the triangle. a G a_{G} is defined similarly.

By parallel-axes theorem,

I M = I G + 3 ( M G ) 2 I_{M} = I_{G} + 3(MG)^{2} , or

A M 2 + B M 2 + C M 2 = A G 2 + B G 2 + C G 2 + 3 ( M G ) 2 AM^{2} + BM^{2} + CM^{2} = AG^{2} + BG^{2} + CG^{2} + 3(MG)^{2} , so the given expression takes the least value when M G = 0 MG=0 , or when M M is the centre of mass G G itself. This value is given by A G 2 + B G 2 + C G 2 = A B 2 + B C 2 + C A 2 3 = 50 3 AG^{2} + BG^{2} + CG^{2} = \frac{AB^{2} + BC^{2} + CA^{2}}{3} = \frac{50}{3} .

Therefore a + b = 50 + 3 = 53 a+b = 50+3 = 53 .

Nice way.I too did the same way.

Spandan Senapati - 4 years, 1 month ago

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