As shown in the figure, △ A B C has side lengths 1 3 , 1 4 and 1 5 , and A D = B F = C E . Find ⌊ 1 0 0 0 0 ⋅ A Y ⌋ .
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Thank you for your solution. It's quite clear. I would like to improve my math typesetting skills. Is there a way for me to look at your (or anyone else's) LaTeX code?
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yes, that's useful, but. I guess this means there is no general mechanism provided by Brilliant?
Just summon me (by tagging me). Like Chew-Seong, I can edit other people's solution as well.
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In the solution section of the link I provided, someone (helpfully) corrected by LaTeX by quoting it exactly as I typed it. So I was wondering how that person was able to see my code. Does this make sense?
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Just highlight then paste into a notepad or equivalent, you will get the raw text.
Fletcher, some of us are moderators including Pi Han Goh and I. We can edit the problems and solutions of others.
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Aha. Thank you!
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@Fletcher Mattox – In fact I touched up the figure of this problem. I find that the blue lines for equal lengths were too long. I changed it to equal signs which are easier to understand. I cropped the extra space around to figure. Limit the figure to width=400. Shortened to "Find ⌊ 1 0 0 0 0 ⋅ A Y ⌋ " instead of "Find the length of A Y . Submit ⌊ 1 0 0 0 0 A Y ⌋ . Added ⋅ to avoid people read it as 1 0 0 0 0 × A × Y .
You can leave the substitution of x at the very end. With
A Y A F − 1 = 1 5 x ( 1 4 − x ) ( 1 5 − x ) = 1 5 x 1 ⋅ 1 3 − x x 3 = 1 5 ( 1 3 − x ) x 2
You also wrote A F 2 = 1 3 2 + ( 1 5 − x ) 2 − 2 ( 1 3 ) ( 1 5 − x ) ⋅ = 3 3 / 6 5 cos C . Simplifying this gives A F = ( 5 4 2 − x ) 2 + ( 5 5 6 ) 2
Hence, A Y is equal to 1 5 ( 1 3 − x ) x 2 + 1 ( 5 4 2 − x ) 2 + ( 5 5 6 ) 2 = 3 ( 1 3 − x ) x 2 + 5 ( 4 2 − 5 x ) 2 + 5 6 2
With x ≈ 6 . 9 7 6 , you get the answer.
The cevians are concurrent at Y, the (first) Yff point for △ A B C . They are constructed by marking off a distance x , counter-clockwise from each vertex, where x is the solution to the cubic equation ( a − x ) ( b − x ) ( c − x ) = x 3 . A second Yff point (named for Peter Yff) can be found by measuring clockwise. x is then used to compute trilinear coordinates , α : β : γ for Y .
α = a 1 3 b − x c − x , β = b 1 3 c − x a − x , γ = c 1 3 a − x b − x
Solving the cubic , x ≈ 6 . 9 7 7 6 1 1
And the trilinears are ≈ 0 . 0 7 0 1 6 9 : 0 . 0 8 0 4 1 3 : 0 . 0 6 4 9 1 9
I converted to cartesian coordinates to compute A Y , assigning A = ( 0 , 0 ) , B = ( 1 4 , 0 ) , C = ( 5 , 1 2 ) which results in Y ≈ ( 6 . 3 7 8 7 9 , 3 . 6 2 7 2 7 )
So by Pythagoras, A Y = 6 . 3 7 8 7 9 2 + 3 . 6 2 7 2 7 2 ≈ 7 3 3 7 9 . 8 and 1 0 0 0 0 A Y = 7 3 3 7 9
More information on the Yff triangle here.
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Nice problem and solution! I believe your question should say AD = BF = CE (it currently says AD = DB = CE).
Three steps – three theorems: Ceva’s , Stewart’s , Menelaus’s .
Step 1
: to find
x
=
A
D
=
B
F
=
C
E
By Ceva’s theorem on
△
A
B
C
we have
D
B
A
D
⋅
F
C
B
F
⋅
E
A
C
E
=
1
⇒
1
4
−
x
x
⋅
1
5
−
x
x
⋅
1
3
−
x
x
=
1
⇒
x
3
=
(
1
3
−
x
)
(
1
4
−
x
)
(
1
5
−
x
)
⇒
2
x
3
−
4
2
x
2
+
5
8
7
x
−
2
7
3
0
=
0
which solves to
x
=
7
+
3
3
6
3
−
6
3
+
1
5
0
9
2
6
5
1
1
−
3
6
(
−
6
3
+
1
5
0
9
2
6
5
1
1
)
2
9
3
⇒
x
≈
6
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Step 2
: to express
A
F
in terms of
x
By Stewart’s theorem on
△
A
B
C
we have
A
F
2
=
B
F
+
F
C
A
C
2
⋅
B
F
+
A
B
2
⋅
F
C
−
B
F
⋅
F
C
=
1
5
1
3
2
⋅
x
+
1
4
2
⋅
(
1
5
−
x
)
−
x
⋅
(
1
5
−
x
)
=
x
2
−
5
8
4
x
+
1
9
6
Thus,
A
F
=
x
2
−
5
8
4
x
+
1
9
6
Step 3
: to find
A
Y
By Menelaus’s theorem on
△
A
B
C
intersected by a line at points
Y
,
C
and
D
we have
Y
F
A
Y
⋅
C
B
F
C
⋅
D
A
B
D
=
1
⇒
Y
F
A
Y
=
F
C
C
B
⋅
D
A
D
A
⇒
Y
F
A
Y
=
(
1
5
−
x
)
(
1
4
−
x
)
1
5
x
⇒
Y
F
A
Y
=
x
2
1
5
(
1
3
−
x
)
from the equation in step 1
⇒
A
Y
=
x
2
1
5
(
1
3
−
x
)
(
A
F
−
A
Y
)
⇒
A
Y
⋅
(
1
+
x
2
1
5
(
1
3
−
x
)
)
=
x
2
1
5
(
1
3
−
x
)
⋅
x
2
−
5
8
4
x
+
1
9
6
⇒
A
Y
=
x
2
−
1
5
x
+
1
9
5
3
5
(
1
3
−
x
)
5
x
2
−
8
4
x
+
9
8
0
Substituting the value of x we found in step 1 we get A Y ≈ 7 . 3 3 7 9 8 4 5 7 0 6 2 4 6 3 4 6 8 .
For the answer, ⌊ 1 0 0 0 0 ⋅ A Y ⌋ = 7 3 3 7 9 .
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Let A D = D B = C E = x . By generalized angle bisector theorem , we have:
A D B D x 1 4 − x ⟹ sin ∠ A C D sin ∠ B C D = C A ⋅ sin ∠ A C D B C ⋅ sin ∠ B C D = 1 3 sin ∠ A C D 1 5 sin ∠ B C D = 1 5 x 1 3 ( 1 4 − x )
Similarly,
A F Y F A Y A F − A Y A Y A F − 1 ⟹ A Y = C A ⋅ sin ∠ A C D C F ⋅ sin ∠ B C D = 1 3 ⋅ 1 5 x ( 1 5 − x ) ⋅ 1 3 ( 1 4 − x ) = 1 5 x ( 1 4 − x ) ( 1 5 − x ) = ( 1 4 − x ) ( 1 5 − x ) + 1 5 x 1 5 x ⋅ A F
We need to find A F and x to find A Y . To find A F , we need to first find x and we can use Ceva's theorem as follows.
E A C E ⋅ D B A D ⋅ F C B F 1 3 − x x ⋅ 1 4 − x x ⋅ 1 5 − x x x 3 − ( 1 3 − x ) ( 1 4 − x ) ( 1 5 − x ) ⟹ x = 1 = 1 = 0 ≈ 6 . 9 7 6 1 0 9 3 0 8
To find A F , we use cosine rule . First 1 4 2 = 1 3 2 + 1 5 2 − 2 ( 1 3 ) ( 1 5 ) cos C ⟹ cos C = 2 ( 1 3 ) ( 1 5 ) 1 3 2 + 1 5 2 − 1 4 2 = 6 5 3 3 and
A F 2 ⟹ A F = 1 3 2 + ( 1 5 − x ) 2 − 2 ( 1 3 ) ( 1 5 − x ) cos C ≈ 1 2 7 . 4 6 7 4 6 4 7 ≈ 1 1 . 2 9 0 1 4 9 0 1
Therefore, A Y = ( 1 4 − x ) ( 1 5 − x ) + 1 5 x 1 5 x ⋅ A F ≈ 7 . 3 3 7 9 8 4 5 7 1 ⟹ ⌊ 1 0 0 0 0 ⋅ A Y ⌋ = 7 3 3 7 9 .