Aditya's challenges in Mechanics 3

In the competition of Tour de France, the cyclists have to go over a parabolic hill. The leading cyclist is riding at a constant speed v = 10 5 ms 1 v=10\sqrt{5} \text{ ms}^{-1} . The details of the hill are depicted in the above figure. Find the net force applied by the hill at point A A

Details and Assumptions

  • The total mass of of the bicycle and the cyclist is equal 100 2 5 kg 100\sqrt{\frac{2}{5}} \text {kg} .

  • g = 10 ms 2 g=10 \text{ ms}^{-2} .

  • The shape of the hill is similar to that of a parabola.

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The answer is 500.

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4 solutions

Kushal Patankar
Jan 29, 2016

\bullet Find out equation of parabola. x 2 100 + 100 \frac{-x^2}{100} +100 \bullet Write down equations of motion. m g cos θ N = m v 2 R mg \cos \theta -\text{N}=\frac{mv^2}{R} F_r = m g sin θ \text{F\_r} = mg \sin \theta

Where,

θ \theta is the angle of inclination of the curve at the point with + x +x axis.

N \text{N} is normal reaction between hill and bicycle.

F_r \text{F\_r} is frictional force on bicycle by hill.

R R is the radius of curvature at that point.

R = ( 1 + ( f ( x ) ) 2 ) 3 2 f ( x ) R=\frac{\left( 1+(f'(x))^2\right)^{\frac{3}{2}}}{f''(x)}

\bullet Net force is resultant of frictional force and normal force.

exactly same

Divyansh Choudhary - 5 years, 4 months ago
Prakhar Bindal
Jan 28, 2016

i suggest you to draw a rough diagram to understand solution better.

Firstly we consider the point of start to be the origin. now we can analyze the motion of the particle to be like a projectile .

Writing equation of the trajectory using alternate form of trajectory of projectile

y y = x x tan(q) (1-x/R) Where q denotes the angle of projection and R Represents the range of projectile .

We Already Know R = 200 m .

For getting q we have been also given the maximum height attained . We have a relation between R And Maximum

Height of projectile which says H/R = tan(q) / 4 . Which can be easily derived using standard results for maximum

height and range of projectile.

Plugging in the values we get tan(q) = 2 .

At Any Point draw the Free body diagram of the particle . The forces acting on it will be The Normal reaction and Weight .

Let the tangent to the path At A Make an angle Of "t" with the horizontal .

Resolving forces and writing equilibrium along the direction normal to the path (apply centrifugal force )

we get

mgcos(t)- N = ma

Where a is the centripetal acceleration .

Also we know that a = v^2 / R . where R is the radius of curvature .

For any curve the radius of curvature is given by a general result which can be seen at

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/190262/radius-of-curvature

Solving For R At point A We Obtain a = 5*root(2) / 2

Also Slope of tangent at point A Can be obtained by differentiating the equation wrt x and plugging in the value of x .

Finally to find The total force applied by path we need to take the resultant of tangential force (mgsin(t) ) and The

above obtained normal reaction

After all numerical calculations we get Answer As 500 newton ! :)

Nice problem

Would you mind to latex your solution?

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 4 months ago

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actually i wrote this yesterday at 11 pm i was feeling a bit sleeepy also . i will try to latexify it by today night

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Sure :) LaTeX would look good for readers.

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Aditya Kumar By the way is it original?

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Prakhar Bindal 80% original

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 4 months ago
Darryl Dennis
Jan 31, 2016

A solution using no calculus,no trig functions and no trig identities. Just the Pythagorean theorem.

The hill is in the shape of a parabola.

Y = 100 ( 1 ( x 100 ) 2 ) Y=100\left( 1-{ \left( \frac { x }{ 100 } \right) }^{ 2 } \right) \\

Find the slop of the parabola at the 50-meter mark. The slope of the parabola can be determined by comparing a few points near the point of interest using simple substitution for the value of x

Slope of parabola at x = 50 meters is converging on one (ie change in rise = change in run).

At X= -50 meters s l o p e = 1 = Δ Y Δ X slope=1=\frac { \Delta Y }{ \Delta X } Δ Y = Δ X \Delta Y= \Delta X
Let t be a unit of time

Δ Y t = Δ X t \frac{\Delta Y}{t} = \frac{\Delta X}{ t}
V Y = V X \\ { V }_{ Y\quad }=\quad { V }_{ X } velocity horizontal = velocity vertical

Slope of the curve at any point is a representation of the relationship of Vy to Vx V B = v e l o c i t y o f b i c y c l e = 10 5 \\ { V }_{ B }=velocity\quad of\quad bicycle\quad =\quad 10\sqrt { 5 } V B 2 = V X 2 + V Y 2 \\ { { V }_{ B } }^{ 2 }=\quad { { V }_{ X } }^{ 2 }+{ { V }_{ Y } }^{ 2 } V Y = V X = 250 m / s { V }_{ Y }={ V }_{ X }=\sqrt { 250 } m/s Vertical and horizontal components of bicycle velocity at the instant of interest.

Δ Y t 2 = a c c e l e r a t i o n Y = A Y \frac { \Delta Y }{ { t }^{ 2 } } =\quad acceleration\quad Y\quad =\quad { A }_{ Y }

change in the slope of the curve is a representation of (+/-) acceleration in both X and Y axis; from substitution shown in the above table Δ t = t i m e i n t e r v a l o f Δ Y \Delta t\quad =\quad time\quad interval\quad of\quad \Delta Y A Y = V Y 100 Δ t { A }_{ Y }=\quad \frac { { V }_{ Y } }{ 100\quad \Delta t } Velocity of bicycle is constant, net accelerations of bicycle = 0, Ab =0 A B 2 = A X 2 + A Y 2 { { A }_{ B } }^{ 2 }=\quad { { A }_{ X } }^{ 2 }+{ { A }_{ Y } }^{ 2 } A Y = A X A_Y = -A_X

acceleration in Y axis

A Y = Δ V Y Δ t = 250 100 1 250 = 2.50 { A }_{ Y }=\quad \frac { \Delta { V }_{ Y } }{ \Delta t } \quad =\quad \frac { \frac { \sqrt { 250 } }{ 100 } }{ \frac { 1 }{ \sqrt { 250 } } } =\quad 2.50\quad ㎨ Ax =2.50 meters /second^2; acceleration horizontal do to shape of hill

Ay = -2.50 meters /second^2; acceleration verticaldo to shape of hill

acceleration do to gravity g = 10 g=\quad 10\quad ㎨ net acceleration in the vertical axis A t o t a l V = 10.0 2.5 { A }_{ total\quad V }=\quad 10.0-2.5\quad ㎨

acceleration vector on hill vertical and horizontal A a l l = 7.5 2 + 2.5 2 = 62.5 \\ { A }_{ all }=\quad \sqrt { { 7.5 }^{ 2 }+{ 2.5 }^{ 2 } } \quad =\quad \sqrt { 62.5 } ㎨

f = m a f=ma m = 100 2 5 \\ m\quad =\quad 100\quad \sqrt { \frac { 2 }{ 5 } }

f = 100 2 5 62.5 = 500 N e u t o n s \\f\quad =\quad 100\quad \sqrt { \frac { 2 }{ 5 } } \quad \sqrt { 62.5 } =\quad 500\quad Neutons

Jatin Sharma
Jan 28, 2016

Hey sorry, This is not the solution, though i did crack the problem(Answer:500). I just wanted to ask you how did you manage to get a Level 5 rating on your question? Please help. I'll delete this "solution" afterwards. Thanks a Lot

What do you mean?

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 4 months ago

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I posted a problem yesterday.. Try it out by the way. Disc Partitioned 1

I want it to be a level 5 question But it shows a 'level pending' and 100 points. How should I make it a level 5 with 400 points.?

Jatin Sharma - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Problems get rated as they become popular. It depends upon the difficulty of the problem to get appropriate points.

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Aditya Kumar Hmmm, assuming you saw the problem, and its my first one here. just starting out you see. I'd be grateful if you could help me out :). Do you think its good enough for level 5?

Jatin Sharma - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Jatin Sharma It greatly depends on the popularity . My Problem (A classical mechanics ) was initially rated at 90 points when 4 out of 4 people solved it but gradually the rating got increased and it has gained 200 points because it has about 22 attempts and only 5 solvers .

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 4 months ago

Whts d solution

Akarsh Kumar Srit - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Shall I post the solution

Jatin Chauhan - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Yes please

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