Adventitious Quadrangle 2

Geometry Level 3

What is the measure of angle x x (in degrees)?


The answer is 40.

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17 solutions

Albert Yiyi
Jun 16, 2018

This solution will be attempted without trigonometry.

First, some simple angle chasing. Also its not hard to see there is an isosceles triangle. Now, it seems like we are stucked. But If we look long enough, the 80°, 100° supplementary angles are looking more and more suspicious.

The first trick: what if we "move" two of the triangles such that two of the equal sides coincides? A cyclic quadrilateral is formed. (Why cyclic?)

Next, draw another diagonal and hunt down all angles. (Inscribed angle theorem.) But what is the use of this cyclic quadrilateral?

The second trick is to realise there is a pair of congruent triangle hidden. The purple triangles are congruent. (Why so?)

x = 4 0 \therefore x = 40^\circ

You also obtain the same cyclic quadrilateral upon intersecting the 2 sides of the quadrilateral.

Hans Gabriel Daduya - 2 years, 11 months ago

I feel so dumb after seeing this. I used trig, cause all my construction failed.

Devansh Sehta - 2 years, 11 months ago

How do you find the angles after drawing in a second diagonal?

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 11 months ago

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use the fact that it is cyclic. construct a circle passing through all 4 vertex and use inscribe angle theorem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inscribed_angle#Theorem

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Ohh, I see. Thank you!

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 11 months ago

Could you explain the cyclic part, like why is it a cyclic quadrilateral?

Edit: Oh I got it. The opposite angles are supplementary i.e. sums to 180. That is enough to prove they are cyclic!

Lance Kuanwu - 2 years, 11 months ago

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yes thats correct.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

Yep, both necessary and sufficient conditions (that is to say, if one condition fits then so does the other).

Black Mephistopheles - 2 years, 11 months ago

how do you get the results of angles of your second step?

Peter Kipfstuhl - 2 years, 11 months ago

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use the fact that it is cyclic. construct a circle passing through all 4 vertex and use inscribe angle theorem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inscribed_angle#Theorem

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Albert Lau Isn't it more helpful to say that you're using the subtended angle property of the arc, not specifically the inscribed angle theorem?

Black Mephistopheles - 2 years, 11 months ago

wow great - Tnks

Dav iD RT - 2 years, 11 months ago

wow indeed!

Mihaela Florica - 2 years, 11 months ago

i did the same thing. taking reflections works well sometimes.

Srikanth Tupurani - 2 years, 11 months ago

sorry it is rotation not reflexion.

Srikanth Tupurani - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Sorry, it is not reflexion but reflection.

James Kim - 2 years, 11 months ago

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thank you.

Srikanth Tupurani - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Srikanth Tupurani You're welcome.

James Kim - 2 years, 11 months ago

What an elegant solution!

Hemant Kejriwal - 2 years, 11 months ago

After you swing those two triangles what makes you sure that they don't overlap?

Seyed Seyedy - 2 years, 11 months ago

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we can choose how much we rotate each triangle, and make sure they dont overlap.

for example, since the angle between the equal sides is 120 deg, we rotate each by 60 degree.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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I wash you had alphabetically marked the vertices so I could tell you that we need to prove that those triangles will fit next to each other.

Seyed Seyedy - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Seyed Seyedy

starting from left, we will fix the red triangle and rotate blue triangle by 120 degrees around point A. to do this,

  1. construct line A D 2 AD_2 such that C A D 2 = 6 0 \angle CAD_2=60^{\circ} .

  2. construct line C D 2 CD_2 such that A C D 2 = 2 0 \angle ACD_2=20^{\circ} .

  3. intersect the two lines at point D 2 D_2 , Δ A C D 2 \Delta ACD_2 and Δ A C 2 D \Delta AC_2D are congruent by ASA.

  4. A B C D 2 ABCD_2 is cyclic quadrilateral that is used in following steps.

is this rigorous enough?

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Albert Yiyi Yes thank you. It is clear now.

Seyed Seyedy - 2 years, 11 months ago

You can't rotate each by 60 degree, if you look closely you will see that you have rotated the blue triangle by 80 degree and the red one by 40 degree.

Seyed Seyedy - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Seyed Seyedy i can rotate both triangles about the intersection point of diagonals, red 60deg counterclockwise, blue 60deg clockwise, such that the equal sides coincides.

besides 80+40 = 120, which is still valid, the triangle wont overlap, the cyclic quadrilateral will be formed regardless.

im not sure i fully understand what's your doubt, can you elaborate more?

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

@Seyed Seyedy Short answer: we are sure the triangles do not overlap, because the sides of each corresponding triangle that we are putting together are the same length. We know they are the same length, because they (the two sides) form an isosceles triangle in the original figure.

Black Mephistopheles - 2 years, 11 months ago

How would you know that the purple triangle are congruent?

IR J - 2 years, 11 months ago

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hint SAS

let me know if u need more hints.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Owhhh thanks!

IR J - 2 years, 11 months ago

What is SAS?

Steve Cau - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Steve Cau it is one way to proof 2 triangles are congruent. there are 5 ways in total. (SSS, SAS, ASA, AAS, RHL)

here's a link if u need more info:

https://www.mathsisfun.com/geometry/triangles-congruent-finding.html?ref=binfind.com/web

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

I'd say that is just telling, not really a "hint"...but Mr. Steve Cau has convinced me otherwise

Black Mephistopheles - 2 years, 11 months ago

This is beautiful

Grant Stenger - 2 years, 11 months ago

how did u think of this? this is sexy

David Zhu - 2 years, 11 months ago

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thanks! i use computer program to generate 4 given angles and check if x is rational (using trig). after it output, i try to solve it without using trig, i post only those i can solve it. most i cant (without trig), but here is another one i did solve (without trig), u might like it.

https://brilliant.org/problems/hard-easy-geometry-problem/?ref_id=1509851

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

hats off to the thinking level

Sanjoy Roy - 2 years, 11 months ago

how do you draw diagonal and know the angle?

Sanjoy Roy - 2 years, 11 months ago

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we know that quadrilateral is cyclic (why?) , we can draw a circle that passes all 4 vertices, and apply inscribed angle theorem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inscribed_angle

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

Hi guys, I’m confused on why Albert chose to make the angles 20 and 40 when drawing the diagonal and doing the angle bisect theorem. I know that the theorem states that a central angle is twice the inscribed angle subtending the same arc, but I don’t understand how that’s applied here. Why was that diagonal drawn that way?

matthew WESSLER - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Look at the 40 and 20-degree angles at the bottom of the quadrilateral.

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 11 months ago

the theorem has another usage: 2 inscribed angles which subtends the same arc are equal. 20,40 deg came from bottom.

since alot of ppl are asking this, i add a circle to help visualize it. hopefully that helps.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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The diagram helped a lot. Thank you!

matthew WESSLER - 2 years, 11 months ago

This is nice. However, I was wondering whether might be any shorter way of doing this. If you let the other angle (the one that turned out to be 20°) be y, then x + y = 60. Right way I was thinking that x : y = 40 : 20, the same as the ratio of the known angles in the respective triangles. Is there any deeper reason as to why?

Ilirjan Cane - 2 years, 11 months ago

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that does not always hold. rotate the digram and view from other 3 directions, the ratios are not equal.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

The problem should be under "Advanced." If it had only involved "angle chasing" and the like, then this would have been the appropriate category.

Dennis Rodman - 2 years, 8 months ago

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it is done only involved "angle chasing", some of the solution below gives more such solution, as long as no trigonometry is used.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 8 months ago
David Vreken
Jun 23, 2018

First, fill in the angles that can be determined by triangle sum and straight angles, and also label the vertices A A , B B , C C , D D , and E E as follows:

Since E A D = E D A = 30 ° \angle EAD = \angle EDA = 30° , E A D \triangle EAD is an isosceles triangle, and E A E D EA \cong ED .

Next, construct equilateral triangle F E D \triangle FED , with C C on E F EF , and fill in the angles:

Since F D E D FD \cong ED by equilateral triangle sides, and E D E A ED \cong EA (from above), F D E A FD \cong EA . Since B E A = C F D = 60 ° \angle BEA = \angle CFD = 60° and B A E = C D F = 40 ° \angle BAE = \angle CDF = 40° , D F C A E B \triangle DFC \cong \triangle AEB by ASA congruence. Therefore, B E C F BE \cong CF .

Finally, construct equilateral triangle E C G \triangle ECG , with G G on E D ED , and fill in the angles:

Since E C E G EC \cong EG by equilateral triangle sides, and E F E D EF \cong ED by equilateral triangle sides, E F E C E D E G EF - EC \cong ED - EG , or C F G D CF \cong GD . From above, B E C F BE \cong CF , so B E G D BE \cong GD . Since C E C G CE \cong CG by equilateral triangle sides, and C E B = C G D = 120 ° \angle CEB = \angle CGD = 120° , B E C D G C \triangle BEC \cong \triangle DGC by SAS congruence. Therefore, B C E = D C G = 40 ° \angle BCE = \angle DCG = 40° , which means x = 40 ° x = \boxed{40}° .

awesome solution!

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

awesome use of construction!

Satyabrata Dash - 2 years, 11 months ago

The solution that I understand more, though.

Aldiputera Laksamana - 2 years, 11 months ago

Nice work!

Mihaela Florica - 2 years, 11 months ago

amazing construction. i tried in this way. but did not have confidence to continue. then changed and tried other way and solved it. in this problem we can see lot of equilateral triangles.

Srikanth Tupurani - 2 years, 11 months ago

this solution i like. here we are looking at side length and use congruence theorems.

Srikanth Tupurani - 2 years, 11 months ago

Solution using trigonometry.

Consider isosceles A D E \triangle ADE . Let A E = E D = 1 AE=ED=1 . Apply cosine law.

( A D ) 2 = ( A E ) 2 + ( E D ) 2 2 ( A E ) ( E D ) ( cos 120 ) (AD)^2=(AE)^2+(ED)^2-2(AE)(ED)(\cos 120)

( A D ) 2 = 1 + 1 2 ( cos 120 ) (AD)^2=1+1-2(\cos 120)

A D 1.73 AD \approx 1.73

Consider A B D \triangle ABD . Apply sine law.

A B sin 30 = A D sin 80 \dfrac{AB}{\sin 30}=\dfrac{AD}{\sin 80}

A B = sin 30 sin 80 ( 1.73 ) 0.88 AB=\dfrac {\sin 30}{\sin 80}(1.73) \approx 0.88

Consider A C D \triangle ACD . Apply sine law.

A C sin 50 = A D sin 100 \dfrac{AC}{\sin 50}=\dfrac{AD}{\sin 100}

A C = sin 50 sin 100 ( 1.73 ) 1.35 AC = \dfrac{\sin 50}{\sin 100} (1.73) \approx 1.35

Consider A B C \triangle ABC . Apply cosine law.

( B C ) 2 = ( 0.88 ) 2 + ( 1.35 ) 2 2 ( 0.88 ) ( 1.35 ) ( cos 40 ) (BC)^2=(0.88)^2+(1.35)^2-2(0.88)(1.35)(\cos 40)

B C 0.88 BC \approx 0.88

Since B C = A B BC = AB , A B C \triangle ABC is isosceles. Therefore,

x = B A C = 4 0 x=\angle BAC = \boxed{40^\circ}

exactly my way haha

Woody Tse - 2 years, 11 months ago

This solution gets you to x is approximately 40 degrees. Is there a way to refine the trigonometry--maybe playing around with the sine and cosine laws--to prove equality?

Ryan Stones - 2 years, 11 months ago

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working it out without approximating the lengths, i.e. using surd and trigonometric notation, we get to the point where BC is exactly equal to AB

Joseph Giri - 2 years, 11 months ago

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I worked it out as well, but following those steps outlined in this proof you need to use the trig facts that sin(50) = cos(40), sin(80) = sin(100), and sin(30)=1/2 .

Ryan Stones - 2 years, 11 months ago
Nishant Sharma
Jun 25, 2018

Some solutions really opened up my vision towards Geometry. I will give a rather mundane approach, which I exploit in most of the angle-chasing problems.

@David Vreken forgive me for using your image. I totally forgot how to draw these neat images online.

Considering A B C \triangle ABC , we have from sine-formula, sin x A B = sin 40 B C \dfrac{\sin x}{AB} = \dfrac{\sin 40}{BC} .

Again, in D B C \triangle DBC , we have sin 20 B C = sin ( 100 + x ) B D \dfrac{\sin 20}{BC} = \dfrac{\sin (100 + x)}{BD} .

Finally, in A B D \triangle ABD , we have sin 70 B D = sin 30 A B \dfrac{\sin 70}{BD} = \dfrac{\sin 30}{AB} .

We see that, on multiplying the above relations likewise, the denominators cancel out. That is the motivation to use this approach.

So we get,

sin x sin 20 sin 70 = sin 40 sin ( 100 + x ) sin 30 \sin x \cdot \sin20 \cdot \sin70 = \sin 40 \cdot \sin(100+x) \cdot \sin30

sin x sin 20 sin 70 = ( 2 sin 20 cos 20 ) sin ( 100 + x ) 1 2 \Rightarrow \sin x \cdot \sin20 \cdot \sin70 = (2 \cdot \sin20 \cdot \cos20) \cdot \sin(100+x) \cdot \dfrac{1}{2}

Remembering, sin 70 = cos 20 \sin70 = \cos20 and cancelling common terms on both sides, we are left with

sin x = sin ( 100 + x ) \sin x = \sin(100+x)

sin x sin ( 100 + x ) = 0 \Rightarrow \sin x - \sin(100+x) = 0

2 cos ( x + 50 ) sin ( 50 ) = 0 \Rightarrow 2 \cdot \cos(x+50) \cdot \sin(-50) = 0

cos ( x + 50 ) = 0 \Rightarrow \cos(x+50) = 0 ( ( Since sin 5 0 0 \sin50^\circ \neq 0 ) )

x = 4 0 . \Rightarrow x = \boxed{40^\circ} .

Stephen Brown
Jun 28, 2018

By creating a symmetrical triangle based on ADC, reflected along AD, angle x can be ascertained from resulting triangle ABC'.

we cant be certain that B D 1 C BD_1C is a straight line. it must be proven first.

in fact if we can prove it, we can use whatever the prove method is, to show A D 1 B + A D 1 C = 18 0 \angle AD_1B + \angle AD_1C = 180^{\circ} , x will be trivial to find from here.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Then we can't be sure any of the lines are straight which is a bit silly because it is fair to imply that they all are even if it isn't stated.

BD1C is forced to be a straight line (not least by construction) because if it is not the triangles do not reflect.

Roger Willis - 2 years, 11 months ago

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im sorry i dont think u understand, what i mean straight line, i mean collinear. reflecting A D 1 C AD_1C has nothing to do with point B B or D 1 B D_1B , they are not forced to be a straight line.we cant imply that they are collinear.

in fact are u suggesting that for any position B B we can be certain C 1 D 1 B C_1D_1B is always a straight line?

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Albert Yiyi or lets assume ur method is valid. i have a similar problem here.

https://brilliant.org/problems/hard-easy-geometry-problem/?ref_id=1509851

i have oriented ur solution appropriately so that it align with this problem.

by ur method, i reflect ADC to ADC', and found a=80, x=100, but the correct answer is x=80.

in fact we can see visually ADC' isnt congruent to ADC at all, a true reflection would make C'DB obviously not collinear.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Albert Yiyi Eloquently put, Sir.

Stephen Brown - 2 years, 11 months ago

Beautiful.

Roger Willis - 2 years, 11 months ago

I concur with @Albert Lau , how do you know that C'D aligns with BD ?

Your solution seems to be independant of C B D \angle{CBD} . What if we increase it, preserving A B D \triangle{ABD} and B A C \angle{BAC} ? then AC increases in length without changing direction, x decreases, and both A D C \angle{ADC} and A D C \angle{ADC'} increase, but A D B \angle{ADB} does not change. That should make clear C', D and B are not necessary aligned ?

What am I missing in your proof here ?

Maxime Augier - 2 years, 11 months ago

That's beautiful

Biswajit Bhowmick - 2 years, 11 months ago

Let E = A C B D E=AC \cap BD and P = A D B C P=AD\cap BC . D P C E DPCE is a cyclic quadrilateral, then D C E = D P E \angle DCE=\angle DPE . By Ceva's Theorem sin B A E sin E A P sin A P E sin E P B sin P B E sin E B A = 1 \frac{\sin \angle BAE}{\sin \angle EAP}\cdot\frac{\sin \angle APE}{\sin \angle EPB}\cdot\frac{\sin \angle PBE}{\sin\angle EBA}=1 sin 3 0 sin 4 0 sin A P E sin E P B sin 2 0 sin 3 0 = 1 \frac{\sin 30^{\circ}}{\sin 40^{\circ}}\cdot\frac{\sin \angle APE}{\sin EPB}\cdot\frac{\sin 20^{\circ}}{\sin 30^{\circ}}=1 Finally A P E + E P B = 6 0 \angle APE+\angle EPB=60^{\circ} and sin A P E sin 4 0 = sin E P B sin 2 0 \frac{\sin \angle APE}{\sin 40^{\circ}}=\frac{\sin\angle EPB}{\sin 20^{\circ}} implies A P E = 4 0 \angle APE=40^{\circ} .

this can be done without trig. continue from ur solution at ∠DCE = ∠DPE:

∠AEB = 2∠APB, by inscribe angle theorem AE=PE=BE, so in isosceles ΔAEP we have ∠DPE = 40°. therefore ∠DCE = 40°.

this construction is actually pretty clean.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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You are right, finally is only see that E is the circumcenter of APB and we are done.

Ricardo Largaespada - 2 years, 11 months ago

This is not texting. Spell out "your."

Dennis Rodman - 2 years, 8 months ago
Edward Hou
Jun 26, 2018

This will be another way to construct auxiliary lines. After looking long enough at the diagram, it feels very tempting to show somehow that A=F or B=F, and proving either of these will give the value of the angle.

So the natural goal is to produce as many isosceles or equilateral triangles as possible, using side lengths the length of either A, B, or F. Here's how I did:

First construct C. Now the triangles between C-D and E-B are identical, so C=B. The 80° angles give A=C, therefore A=B. Next, move B closer to A, creating a parallelogram BFB'F' and an equilateral triangle AB'G. ( A B = A B = 18 0 7 0 5 0 = 6 0 ) (\angle AB'=\angle AB=180^{\circ}-70^{\circ}-50^{\circ}=60^{\circ})

By the inscribed angle theorem, B', F', and G form a set of radii of a same circle, thus B'=F'.

Immediately A=B=F, where the pair A=F can give the desired x = 40 ° \boxed{x=40°} .

nice solution. however i believe there is something need to be cleared.

"move B closer to A" by creating parallelogram, we dont have degree of freedom to choose 60 deg between A and B', the fact that angle is 60 deg needs to be proven.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Very true. I have edited my solution.

Edward Hou - 2 years, 11 months ago

Not sure why this is not upvoted but im pretty sure this is my favourite

Lance Kuanwu - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Thank you. E.G.

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Sự Trần
Jun 27, 2018

Geometry solution:

Draw equilateral triangle ABE . See sketch below for the positions of points D,F,C,G,E and values of angles ∠ (DAE)= 10, ∠(CBE)=10, ∠(ACB)=100,∠(DCE) =60,∠ (ADB)=80 Since AC and BD are angle bisector of ∠(BAE) and ∠(ABE) so AC is the perpendicular bisector of BẸ Triangle ACE congruent to triangle ACB ( case SAS) so ∠(ACB)= ∠(ACE)= 100 degrees and x= 100-60= 40 degrees

Tom Cowperthwaite
Jun 25, 2018

Answer using trig:

Firstly, I used the properties of an isosceles triangle to take both AE and BE as 1 unit in length. I then used basic angle rules to obtain all angles labelled.

Using the sine rule twice to find some useful side lengths:

E C s i n ( 20 ) = 1 s i n ( 100 ) \frac{EC}{sin(20)}=\frac{1}{sin(100)}

E C 0.347 EC \approx 0.347

D E s i n ( 60 ) = 1 s i n ( 80 ) \frac{DE}{sin(60)}=\frac{1}{sin(80)}

D E 0.653 DE \approx 0.653

Using the cosine rule to find the final side length:

( C D ) 2 = ( E D ) 2 + ( E C ) 2 ( 2 × E D × E C × cos 120 ) (CD)^{2}=(ED)^2+(EC)^2-(2\times ED \times EC \times \cos 120)

C D 0.879 CD \approx 0.879

Then used the sine rule once more to find angle x:

s i n ( x ) 0.653 = s i n ( 120 ) 0.879 \frac{sin (x)}{0.653}=\frac{sin (120)}{0.879}

x = 4 0 \therefore x = 40^{\circ}

Johanan Paul
Jun 25, 2018

Like everyone else, I started with angle hunting.

First note that 120 + x + α = 180 120 + x + \alpha = 180 and thus, x + α = 60 x + \alpha = 60

Using the sine law in triangles DMA and CMB,

A M = D M sin ( 80 ) sin ( 40 ) AM = DM \frac{\sin (80)}{\sin (40)}

B M = C M sin ( 100 ) sin ( 20 ) BM = CM \frac{\sin(100)}{\sin(20)}

Since triangle AMB is isoceles, A M = B M AM = BM

D M sin ( 80 ) sin ( 40 ) = C M sin ( 100 ) sin ( 20 ) DM \frac{\sin (80)}{\sin (40)} = CM \frac{\sin(100)}{\sin(20)}

D M C M = sin ( 100 ) sin ( 40 ) sin ( 20 ) sin ( 80 ) \frac{DM}{CM} = \frac{\sin(100) \sin(40)}{\sin(20) \sin(80)}

80 and 100 are complementary angles, so sin 80 = sin 100 \sin 80 = \sin 100 and they cancel out in the fraction.

Resulting: D M C M = sin ( 40 ) sin ( 20 ) \frac{DM}{CM} = \frac{\sin(40)}{\sin(20)}

Using the sine law again but in triangle CMD,

D M sin x = C M sin α \frac{DM}{\sin x} = \frac{CM}{\sin \alpha}

D M C M = sin x sin α \frac{DM}{CM} = \frac{\sin x}{\sin \alpha}

sin x sin α = sin ( 40 ) sin ( 20 ) \frac{\sin x}{\sin \alpha} = \frac{\sin(40)}{\sin(20)}

At this point it looks like we're stuck. It's going to be impossible to guess a solution from this.

However, the solution has been right there before our eyes the whole time. Remember x + α = 60 x + \alpha = 60 ? Well, apparently 40 + 20 = 60 40 + 20 = 60

And that also a solution to sin x sin α = sin ( 40 ) sin ( 20 ) \frac{\sin x}{\sin \alpha} = \frac{\sin(40)}{\sin(20)} , so...

Therefore, x = 4 0 x = 40^{\circ}

Michael Mendrin
Jul 3, 2018

Use a 18-gon for this one. Start by drawing lines R T RT , P A PA and Q C QC , so that triangle Δ R P C \Delta RPC is an equilateral triangle, and therefore triangle Δ Q R C \Delta QRC is isosceles, with base angles 40 40 degrees. Next, we draw lines C B CB , P B PB and A B AB , so that angle A P B = 80 \angle APB = 80 degrees, and angle A B P = 70 \angle ABP = 70 degrees. From this we determine that angle C B P = 20 \angle CBP = 20 degrees, and finally that angle P C B = 80 \angle PCB = 80 degrees, so that not only triangle Δ B C P \Delta BCP is isosceles, line segments Q C QC and C B CB are colinear.

Therefore A D = P T = C T = D C AD = PT = CT = DC . From this, we see that triangle Δ A D C \Delta ADC is isosceles, and that angle D C A = 40 \angle DCA = 40 .

This proof requires showing that lines R T , P A , Q B , S D RT, PA, QB, SD intersect at the same point C C . See the following:

Here, we'll only look at the question of the concurrency of lines A D AD , B E BE , C F CF , all meeting (or not) at point Q Q . Those lines, as well as line A B AB , are drawn in the 18-gon as follows:

First we draw the symmetrical kite A B C Q ABCQ , formed by reflection of triangle Δ A B C \Delta ABC which has angles 10 , 140 , 30 10, 140, 30 degrees. Thus, we know that not only both triangles Δ A B Q \Delta ABQ , Δ B C Q \Delta BCQ are isosceles, Δ B C Q \Delta BCQ is equilateral.

Then if lines B Q BQ and B E BE both make the same angle 60 60 from line B C BC , then both lines are colinear.

Likewise for lines C Q CQ and C F CF for the same reason.

Finally, if lines A Q AQ and A D AD both make the same angle 20 20 from line A B AB , then they are colinear as well.

This establishes the concurency of lines B E BE , C F CF , and A D AD , meeting at point Q Q .

am i missing something? how do i prove the blue chord is concurrent with other 2 chords? (green and orange)

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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also i think one of your 80 degree angle should be 100 degree

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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typo fixed

Michael Mendrin - 2 years, 11 months ago

I don't know yet, it's late here right now. I'll have a closer look at it tomorrow, and maybe add some more lines.

Michael Mendrin - 2 years, 11 months ago

Okay, the extra lines have been added and proof completed.

Michael Mendrin - 2 years, 11 months ago

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i must have missed something obvious... without A C AC , how can i prove either P = 8 0 \angle P=80^{\circ} or B P = B C BP=BC ? i can see that granting any one will complete the proof, which might give some insight on how to tackle the 42-gon problem.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Albert Yiyi (under construction)

Yes, a 42-gon would be the way to go to try to handle the "What's the 7 doing in there?" problem. A 21-gon would not be sufficient.

Michael Mendrin - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Michael Mendrin i still dont get it, is there a typo somewhere?

  1. C Q P = P Q C = 6 0 \angle CQP = \angle PQC = 60^{\circ} , both are pointing at the same angle. P Q C 4 0 \angle PQC \neq 40^{\circ}

  2. how do i prove P C B = 8 0 \angle PCB = 80^{\circ} ? In Δ B C P \Delta BCP only 20 degree is known. the other two are unknown?

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Albert Yiyi It's 4th of July here.. but let me look at it once again

Michael Mendrin - 2 years, 11 months ago

@Albert Yiyi Okay, 3rd time around.. how does it look now?

Michael Mendrin - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Michael Mendrin thanks for your patience with my constant questions. unfortunately i feel like that doesnt work too.

both C B P = 2 0 \angle CBP = 20^{\circ} or T C B = 4 0 \angle TCB = 40^{\circ} cannot be justified because Q C B QCB has not proven to be collinear yet (marked different color).

Therefore, in Δ C B P \Delta CBP only one angle is known.

12-gon works because the kite ensures 3 lines concurrent at 90 degrees vertex. but in general, im inclined to believe that proving 3 lines concurrent is as hard as finding the required angle itself.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Albert Yiyi Okay, see my added comments in my solution about that.

Michael Mendrin - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Michael Mendrin thanks! what a journey.

albert yiyi - 2 years, 11 months ago
Ariijit Dey
Jul 1, 2018

I feel writing this solution as this one is really incredible!!! credits : Dong Kwan Choo

We have, A B A D B C A B C D C B D A C D = 1 \frac{AB}{AD}\frac{BC}{AB}\frac{CD}{CB}\frac{DA}{CD}=1 so by sine rule, sin 40 sin x sin ( 60 x ) sin 20 sin 100 sin 30 sin 30 sin 80 = 1 \frac{\sin40}{\sin x}\frac{\sin(60-x)}{\sin20}\frac{\sin100}{\sin30}\frac{\sin30}{\sin80}=1 o r or sin ( 60 x ) sin x = 1 2 sec 20 \frac{\sin(60-x)}{\sin x}=\frac{1}{2} \sec20 o r or , cot x = 3 1 + sec 20 \cot x=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{1+\sec20} from above equation sove for x x to get x = 40 x=40

Jon Treby
Jun 28, 2018

Draw an accurate diagram.

Bo Jacoby
Jun 27, 2018

I used brute force. The lower left corner is (0,0) and the lower right corner is (1,0). The upper left corner is (x1,y1) and the upper right corner is (x2,y2). The equations are y1/x1=tan 70° , y1/(1-x1)=tan 30° ; y2/x2=tan 30° ; y2/(1-x2)=tan 50° ; The slope of the upper line is (y2-y1)/(x2-x1), The angle is -10°. So x=40°. The J-code is this.

't3 t5 t7'=.3 o. o. 180%~ 30 50 70

y1=.t7*x1=.%1+t7%t3

y2=.t3*x2=.%1+t3%t5

(30+30)-30+t^:_1 (y2-y1)%x2-x1

40

Andrei Bengus
Jun 26, 2018

It's about thinking outside the box: A B C ABC is an equilateral triangle (the side length doesn't matter since everything can be scaled to 1) with bisectors C D CD and A E AE . Now consider the affine transformation that rotates 10° clockwise and scales to B G : B E BG:BE . This maps E E to G G and D D to F F . Thus the segment F E FE forms a 10 ° 10° angle to D E DE . Now our original configuration is simply A F G C AFGC and the angle x x is just the (clockwise oriented) angle formed by E A EA to G F GF , thus we get

x = ( E A , G F ) ^ = ( E A , E D ) ^ + ( E D , G F ) ^ = 30 ° + 10 ° x=\widehat{(EA,GF)}=\widehat{(EA,ED)}+\widehat{(ED,GF)}=30°+10°

x = 40 ° x=40°

I'm guessing there are a lot more nice relationships that follow from this type of strategy

Fergus Babb
Jun 30, 2018

I found what could be coincidental, but if not is just an extremely simple solution.

Lets call the centre O, the point of angle 50° we shall call A, and the point of angle 70° will be called B (therefore for example (here (<) denotes an angle O A B = 3 0 = O B A \angle OAB = 30 ^ \circ = \angle OBA ).We will also call angle x <CDO (top left=C, top right=D, centre=O, bottom left=B and bottom right=A.

So, with simple geometry rules w find that: <OAB = 30 = <OAB (making OAB an isosceles triangle)

<BOA = 120 = <COD (Vertically opposite angles are equal (VO))

<COB = 60 = <DOA (((360 -(120*2))/2 = 60) and therefore VO)

<BCO = 80 ( Angles in a two dimensional triangle add to 180° (AT))

<ODA = 100 (AT)

Therefore we get that 180 - 120 = <OCD + <ODC, (or x° + y° = 60°)

We can also get that 360 - ( <ODA + <DAB + <ABC + <BCO (100+50+70+80 = 300) = 60.

This is where I made my (likely coincidentally correct) assumption. Based on the fact that ABCD would be a regular trapezium (internal angle = 360), it is almost as if point A has been stretched until <CBO is double <OAD (we can ignore the triangle OBA as they (<CBA and <DAB) share the common angle of 30°). From this I said that because <CBO = 2*<OAD, then x = 2y (I don't quite know how to explain my thought process but it seemed to make sense) so, as x+y = 60, then 3y=60 and y=20, therefore 2(20) = x = 40.

Hence \I found what could be coincidental, but if not is just an extremely simple solution.

Lets call the centre O, the point of angle 50° we shall call A, and the point of angle 70° will be called B (therefore for example (here (<) denotes an angle <OAB = 30° = <OBA).We will also call angle x <CDO (top left=C, top right=D, centre=O, bottom left=B and bottom right=A.

So, with simple geometry rules w find that: <OAB = 30 = <OAB (making OAB an isosceles triangle)

<BOA = 120 = <COD (Vertically opposite angles are equal (VO))

<COB = 60 = <DOA (((360 -(120*2))/2 = 60) and therefore VO)

<BCO = 80 ( Angles in a two dimensional triangle add to 180° (AT))

<ODA = 100 (AT)

Therefore we get that 180 - 120 = <OCD + <ODC, (or x° + y° = 60°)

We can also get that 360 - ( <ODA + <DAB + <ABC + <BCO (100+50+70+80 = 300) = 60.

This is where I made my (likely coincidentally correct) assumption. Based on the fact that ABCD would be a regular trapezium (internal angle = 360), it is almost as if point A has been stretched until <CBO is double <OAD (we can ignore the triangle OBA as they (<CBA and <DAB) share the common angle of 30°). From this I said that because <CBO = 2*<OAD, then x = 2y (I don't quite know how to explain my thought process but it seemed to make sense) so, as x+y = 60, then 3y=60 and y=20, therefore 2(20) = x = 40.

Hence x = 40°

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