Again stones?

I stand the top of a building 80 m 80\text{m} high and my friend Abhay stands at the ground floor of this building. Then, I drop a stone and Abhay throws a stone vertically upward simultaneously. If it is known that Abhay threw the stone at a velocity of 20 m/s 20\text{m/s} , then after how much time (in seconds) would the two stones meet?


Details and assumptions :-

  • The acceleration due to gravity( g \text{g} ) is 10 m/s 2 10{\text{m/s}}^2 .
  • The motion of the stones are in a straight vertical line perpendicular to the surface.
  • The friction of air is negligible.
  • Give your answer to two decimal places.


The answer is 4.00.

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3 solutions

Ashish Menon
Jun 15, 2016

Let the dropping stone cover a distance of x x m before the collision i.e. the collision happen at ( 80 x ) (80-x) m above ground level.

For the dropping stone :-
S = u t + 1 2 a t 2 x = 0 × t + 1 2 × 10 × t 2 x = 5 t 2 1 \begin{aligned} S & = ut + \dfrac{1}{2}{at}^2\\ \\ x & = 0×t + \dfrac{1}{2} × 10 × t^2\\ \\ x & = 5t^2 \longrightarrow \boxed{1} \end{aligned}

For thrown-up stone :-
S = u t + 1 2 a t 2 80 x = 20 × t 1 2 × 10 × t 2 ( because acceleration here is -g ) 80 x = 20 t 5 t 2 Adding 1 and 2 : 80 = 20 t t = 4.00 \begin{aligned} S & = ut + \dfrac{1}{2}{at}^2\\ \\ 80-x & = 20×t - \dfrac{1}{2}×10×t^2 \left(\text{because acceleration here is -g}\right)\\ \\ 80-x & = 20t - 5t^2\\ \\ \text{Adding} \ \boxed{1} \ \text{and} \ \boxed{2}:-\\ \\ 80 & = 20t\\ \\ t & = \color{#3D99F6}{\boxed{4.00}} \end{aligned}


Alternatively:-
Rotate the figure 90 ° {90}^° left:-

We observe that the relative velocity is 20 0 = 20 m / s 20 - 0 = 20m/s , relative acceleration is 0 m / s 2 0m/s^2 and distance is 80 m 80m .
So, time = distance relative velocity = 80 20 = 4.00 \dfrac{\text{distance}}{\text{relative velocity}} = \dfrac{80}{20} = \color{#3D99F6}{\boxed{4.00}}

You should also state that their relative acceleration in 0 0 .

Akshat Sharda - 5 years ago

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Uhok, modifoed thanks! Sorry for the inconvenience caused till now ;)

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

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Keep posting good problems :-)

Akshat Sharda - 5 years ago

Awesome problem!

Abhiram Rao - 5 years ago

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@Abhiram Rao Thanks! :) :)

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

U r a nice architect :P. Nice question(+1). Nice solution (+1)

Abhay Tiwari - 5 years ago

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Thanks! :)

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

did the same way... Nice one!(+1)

Sparsh Sarode - 4 years, 12 months ago

Nice solution & a nice problem +1!

You can generalise it as :

t = t \ = H u \dfrac {H}{u} ,

where

H H is total height &

u u is the velocity with which the stone from ground is thrown !

Keep posting awesome problems :-)

Rishabh Tiwari - 4 years, 12 months ago

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Thanks, :)

Ashish Menon - 4 years, 12 months ago

Let us first consider the stone that I had dropped. Let x x be its distance above the ground, v v be its velocity, t t be the time elapsed. We have v = g t d x d t = g t d x = 20 g t d t x = g t 2 2 + C = g t 2 2 + 80 v=-gt\\\frac{dx}{dt}=-gt\\\int dx=\int20-gt\space dt\\x=-\frac{gt^2}{2}+C=-\frac{gt^2}{2}+80

Let us now consider the stone that was thrown up. Let x x be its distance above the ground, v v be its velocity, t t be the time elapsed. We have v = 20 g t d x d t = 20 g t d x = 20 g t d t x = 20 t g t 2 2 v=20-gt\\\frac{dx}{dt}=20-gt\\\int dx=\int20-gt\space dt\\x=20t-\frac{gt^2}{2}

Equating the two, we have 20 t g t 2 2 = g t 2 2 + 80 t = 4.00 20t-\frac{gt^2}{2}=-\frac{gt^2}{2}+80\\\therefore t=4.00

Patrick Feltes
Jun 17, 2016

We can model the vertical positions of the stones as functions of time.

My stone is y 1 ( t ) = 80 5 t 2 y_1(t)=80-5t^2

Abhay's stone is y 2 ( t ) = 20 t 5 t 2 y_2(t)=20t-5t^2

We can set them equal to each other and solve for t.

80 5 t 2 = 20 t 5 t 2 80-5t^2=20t-5t^2

t = 4 s t=4 s

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