AGP really?

Geometry Level 4

f ( x ) = sin ( x ) + 1 3 sin ( 3 x ) + 1 3 2 sin ( 5 x ) + \large{f( x ) =\sin( x ) +\dfrac { 1 }{ 3 } \sin ( 3x )+\dfrac { 1 }{ { 3 }^{ 2 } } \sin( 5x )+\ldots }

Define f ( x ) f(x) as of above such that f ( π 3 ) = A B C f\left( \dfrac { \pi }{ 3 } \right) =\dfrac { A\sqrt { B } }{ C } where A , C A,C are co prime integers and B B is square free.

Evaluate the value of A + B + C A+B+C as your answer.


The answer is 22.

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Otto Bretscher
Dec 4, 2015

By Trigonometric Periodicity Identities , we observe that for x = π 3 x =\dfrac \pi3 ,
sin ( x ) = sin ( 7 x ) = sin ( 13 x ) = = 3 2 \sin(x)=\sin(7x)=\sin(13x)=\cdots=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} ,
sin ( 3 x ) = sin ( 9 x ) = = 0 \sin(3x)=\sin(9x)=\cdots=0 , and
sin ( 5 x ) = sin ( 11 x ) = = 3 2 \sin(5x)=\sin(11x)=\cdots=\frac{-\sqrt{3}}{2} .


So the series becomes

3 2 ( 1 + 1 3 3 + 1 3 6 + . . . . . 1 3 2 1 3 5 . . . ) = 3 2 ( 27 26 3 26 ) = 6 3 13 \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\left(1+\frac{1}{3^3}+\frac{1}{3^6}+.....-\frac{1}{3^2}-\frac{1}{3^5}...\right)=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\left(\frac{27}{26}-\frac{3}{26}\right)=\frac{6\sqrt{3}}{13}

The penultimate step can be solved by applying the Geometric Progression Sum with common ratio, r = 1 / 3 3 r = 1/3^3 .

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Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 5 years, 6 months ago

I did the same. Fine solution sir

Shreyash Rai - 5 years, 5 months ago

This is a rather weird approach, but I'll give it a try, anyway....

f ( x ) f(x) is the imaginary component of the complex function g ( x ) = n = 0 e i ( 2 n + 1 ) x 3 n . g(x) = \displaystyle\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \dfrac{e^{i(2n + 1)x}}{3^{n}}.

The terms of this series are in geometric progression, as the common ratio is e i 2 x 3 , \dfrac{e^{i2x}}{3}, the absolute value of which is 1 3 . \dfrac{1}{3}. So treating this series as a "normal" infinite geometric series, its sum will be

g ( x ) = e i x 1 e i 2 x 3 = 3 e i x 3 e i 2 x = 3 3 e i x e i x . g(x) = \dfrac{e^{ix}}{1 - \dfrac{e^{i2x}}{3}} = \dfrac{3e^{ix}}{3 - e^{i2x}} = \dfrac{3}{3e^{-ix} - e^{ix}}.

Plugging in x = π 3 , x = \dfrac{\pi}{3}, we end up with

g ( π 3 ) = 3 3 ( cos ( π 3 ) i sin ( π 3 ) ) ( cos ( π 3 ) + i sin ( π 3 ) ) = g(\frac{\pi}{3}) = \dfrac{3}{3(\cos(\frac{\pi}{3}) - i*\sin(\frac{\pi}{3})) - (\cos(\frac{\pi}{3}) + i*\sin(\frac{\pi}{3}))} =

3 3 2 i 3 3 2 1 2 i 3 2 = 3 1 i 2 3 1 + i 2 3 1 + i 2 3 = 3 + i 6 3 13 . \dfrac{3}{\frac{3}{2} - i*\frac{3\sqrt{3}}{2} - \frac{1}{2} - i*\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}} = \dfrac{3}{1 - i*2\sqrt{3}} * \dfrac{1 + i*2\sqrt{3}}{1 + i*2\sqrt{3}} = \dfrac{3 + i*6\sqrt{3}}{13}.

Since f ( x ) f(x) is the imaginary component of g ( x ) , g(x), we see that f ( π 3 ) = 6 3 13 , f(\frac{\pi}{3}) = \dfrac{6\sqrt{3}}{13}, and so

A + B + C = 6 + 3 + 13 = 22 . A + B + C = 6 + 3 + 13 = \boxed{22}.

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Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 8 months ago

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Is there any other way to find general term i.e for any x other than complex numbers

baljeet dhanoa - 5 years, 8 months ago

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The general term is 1 3 k sin ( ( 2 k + 1 ) x ) \frac{1}{3^k}\sin((2k+1)x) ... what else do we need? ;)

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Otto Bretscher I meant summation of that , for any x.

baljeet dhanoa - 5 years, 8 months ago

@Otto Bretscher Sir Kindly See My Solution . I Have Found A General Solution For Any x . Is It Correct? i will be grateful to you

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 7 months ago
Prakhar Bindal
Oct 23, 2015

Here is my calculus free approach

Call the summation to be S

S 1 = sin x 1 + sin 3 x 3 \dfrac{S}{1} = \dfrac {\sin x}{1}+\dfrac{\sin 3x}{3} \cdots

We Use The Traditional Method Of Shifting Terms in AGP

S 3 = sin x 3 + sin 3 x 9 \dfrac{S}{3} = \dfrac{\sin x}{3}+\dfrac{\sin 3x}{9} \cdots

Subtracting These We Get

2 S 3 = sin x + s i n 3 x s i n x 3 + s i n 5 x s i n 3 x 9 \dfrac{2S}{3} = \sin x+\dfrac{sin 3x - sin x}{3}+\dfrac{sin 5x-sin 3x}{9} \cdots

Applying The Relevant Trigonometric Identity

2 S 3 = sin x + 2 × s i n x × c o s 2 x 3 + 2 × s i n x × c o s 4 x 9 \dfrac{2S}{3} = \sin x+ \dfrac{2\times sin x \times cos 2x}{3} +\dfrac{2\times sinx\times cos 4x}{9} \cdots

Now From Every Term We Take 2sinx Common

2 S 3 = sin x + 2 × sin x ( c o s 2 x 3 + c o s 4 x 9 + \dfrac{2S}{3}= \sin x + 2\times \sin x (\dfrac{cos 2x}{3} + \dfrac{cos 4x}{9} + \cdots )

Now i will evaluate the cosine series separately

Let

Z 1 = c o s 2 x 3 + c o s 4 x 9 + c o s 6 x 27 + \dfrac{Z}{1} = \dfrac{cos 2x}{3}+\dfrac{cos 4x}{9}+\dfrac{cos 6x}{27}+\cdots

Again we apply the method of shifting the terms

Z 3 = c o s 2 x 9 + c o s 4 x 27 + \dfrac{Z}{3} = \dfrac{cos 2x}{9} +\dfrac{cos 4x}{27}+\cdots

Subtracting

2 Z 3 = c o s 2 x 3 + c o s 4 x c o s 2 x 9 + c o s 6 x c o s 4 x 27 + \dfrac{2Z}{3} = \dfrac{cos 2x}{3} + \dfrac{cos 4x - cos 2x}{9} + \dfrac{cos 6x -cos 4x}{27}+\cdots

Again applying the relevant trigonometric identity

2 Z 3 = c o s 2 x 3 2 × s i n 3 x × s i n x 9 2 × s i n 5 x × s i n x 27 + \dfrac{2Z}{3} = \dfrac{cos 2x}{3} - \dfrac{2\times sin 3x\times sin x}{9} - \dfrac{2\times sin 5x\times sin x}{27}+\cdots

Multiplying by 3 And taking 2sinx common

2 Z 1 = cos 2 x 2 × s i n x ( s i n 3 x 3 + s i n 5 x 9 + \dfrac{2Z}{1} = \cos 2x - 2\times sin x(\dfrac{sin 3x}{3}+\dfrac{sin5x}{9}+\cdots

And to our suprise the series inside the bracket is the series asked to us (S)

So we can write

2 Z 1 = cos 2 x 2 × s i n x × ( S sin x ) \dfrac{2Z}{1} = \cos 2x - 2\times sin x\times(S-\sin x)

Also we have the relation

2 S 3 = sin x + 2 × s i n x × Z \dfrac{2S}{3} = \sin x + 2\times sin x\times Z

Solving the system of equations above simultaneously we get the value of S

Finally on simplification and applying identities

We get

S 1 = 3 × s i n x 1 + 3 × s i n 2 x \dfrac{S}{1} = \dfrac{3\times sin x}{1+3\times\ sin^2 x}

You need to show that they form an AGP, which is not obvious.

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 6 months ago

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I never said that they form an AGP . I only tried to evaluate the sum using shifting of terms method as there is no restriction in mathematics that we use a particular method only if they form an AGP .

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Oh sorry, misread. Was confused by your phrasing. Can you type it in LaTeX? I think your solution is great too (albeit a slightly longer one).

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Well i dont know anything about latex! . can you help me?

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Prakhar Bindal You can start with this one !

For example, your line of "S/3 = sinx/3+ sin3x/9 ............" can be converted into

S 3 = sin x 3 + sin 3 x 9 + \dfrac {S}{3} = \dfrac{\sin x}{3} +\dfrac{\sin 3x}{9} + \cdots

Here's the code:

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\ [ \dfrac {S}{3} = \dfrac{\sin x}{3} +\dfrac{\sin 3x}{9} + \cdots \ ]

Remove the space between " \ " and " [ ", same goes for " \ " and " ] ".

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Let Me try i will surely ask you for help if i face any problem

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Prakhar Bindal sure no problem!! It's super easy to learn LaTeX \LaTeX . Extra tip: click your profile picture, then click "toggle latex" to disable the LaTeX display, so you can see how to type them out manually.

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Hey i have tried to edit solution a bit . please see it ! and suggest something

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Prakhar Bindal Haha so far so good! This is already very good for a beginner! Great work!

A few advice: it should be "\sin" and not "sin". And you don't need to write × \times for 2 × sin 2 x × sin x 2\times \sin2x \times \sin x , 2 sin 2 x sin x 2\sin2x \sin x should be sufficient.

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Its Already 11:30 pm here i should sleep now will complete it tomorrow. yeah i will follow the advice

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Prakhar Bindal Haha no problem!

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh hey can you help me? i am not able to write sin^2 (x) in latex?

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Prakhar Bindal \ [ \sin^2 x \ ]

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Thanks Done!

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Prakhar Bindal Wow! Great Thankyou thankyouuu

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 6 months ago

@Pi Han Goh Yeah i love solving series problems from algebra only . (reason being i have not learnt that much calculus i only know how to differentiate and integrate :P)

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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