Alex's test scores

Alex took five math tests and received a distinct integer score from 0 to 100 on each of them. He never scored 95 or higher, and his lowest score was the third test. If his average score, rounded to the nearest integer, is 85, what is the lowest possible score he could have received on the fourth test?

This problem is adapted by Alex P . from Mathcounts.


The answer is 73.

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6 solutions

Josh Gaines
Sep 8, 2013

We know that Alex's average after the 5 tests (after rounding) was an 85 85 (therefore, x 5 = 85 \frac{x}{5} = 85 ), but we would like to know the lowest possible exact average that when multiplied by 5 gives an integer (the sum of his test scores). Since 84.5 × 5 = 422.5 84.5 \times 5 = 422.5 is not an integer, 84.6 84.6 is the lowest possible average, which gives us a test score sum of 423 423 .

In order to get the lowest possible grades on two tests (the 3rd, x, and 4th, y), we must maximize the sum score from the other three tests. Because each score must be distinct and under 95 95 , those three grades are 92 92 , 93 93 , and 94 94 . So now we have the equation x + y + 92 + 93 + 94 = 423 x + y + 92 + 93 + 94 = 423 . We can reduce that to x + y = 144 x + y = 144 .

In order to minimize the fourth grade, y, we must maximize the third grade, x. This gives us x = 72 x = 72 and y = 72 y = 72 but the grades must be distinct so the third grade becomes a 71 71 and the fourth grade becomes a 73 73 ...our answer. =)

Moderator note:

The most common mistake made, was to ignore the given fact that the test scores are distinct .

that was also my mistake

Rey Francis Famulagan - 7 years, 9 months ago

ahahaha I did not saw the word "distinct" hhahahha

Rindell Mabunga - 7 years, 9 months ago

same here :*-/

Bob Yang - 7 years, 9 months ago

Ignore the word 'distinct' on the first time, and correct answer on the second trial.

展豪 張 - 5 years, 2 months ago
Snehdeep Arora
Sep 9, 2013

He never scored 95 or more:

Let us take he scored 94 in first 93 in second and 92 in fifth. Let the scores in third and fourth be x and y. Let us take the average is exactly 85 so the sum of scores of all test must be 85 × 5 = 425 85 \times 5 = 425

94 + 93 + x + y + 92 = 425 x + y = 146 94 + 93 + x + y + 92 = 425 \Rightarrow x + y = 146

the lowest possible value of y is 74 as x less than y but then the average would be exactly 85.

So lowest possible fourth test score is 73

Moderator note:

You cannot assume that "the average is exactly 85", since it could be much lower. In this question, it just so happens that the numerical value was the same.

actually you should not use 85 as the average right especially if they asked what the lowest 3rd test result is you would have gotten the wrong answer?

gerry zhang - 7 years, 9 months ago

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they are asking the lowest possible score in fourth test not third

Snehdeep Arora - 7 years, 9 months ago

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Gerry is pointing out that you have an error in your logic. Using your argument, if we wanted to find the lowest possible score, you would give

85 × 5 94 93 92 91 85 \times 5 - 94-93-92-91 .

However, the true lowest possible score would be

84.6 × 5 94 93 92 91 84.6 \times 5 - 94 - 93 - 92 - 91 .

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 9 months ago

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@Calvin Lin i got (marks in third test + marks in fourth test = 146)by taking average exactly 85

lowest possible marks in fourth test would be 74 if the average is exactly 85 that's why i gave 73 as the answer because then marks in the third test would be less than 73 and their sum would not be exactly 146 so the average would be less than 85.

Snehdeep Arora - 7 years, 9 months ago

not at all happy, just did silly mistake at last, gave the answer 72

Aabhas Mathur - 7 years, 9 months ago
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Sep 8, 2013

Since the scores are integers their sum is also an integer and therefore when we divide the sum by 5 ,we have to get an integer or a real number with with 2,4,6,8 in its first decimal place.since it is given in the problem that the average score was rounded to 85 the average score must be a real number having either 2 or 4 or 6 or 8 in its decimal position.

For minimizing the score of the fourth test we have to maximize the scores of the first,second and fifth test.

Since the scores are distinct and < 95 we the scores must be 94 93 and 92 .Their sum turns out to be 279.

Let his scores in test 3 and 4 be a and b we know that a<b and the average score must be 84.6 , 84.8 , 85.2, 85.4.(in order to round off to 85)

Since a+b should be minimum (since a is least and b should be minimized) a+b = 84.6*5 - 279

a+b = 144

since a<b

implies a=71 and b=73

Chengfang Goh
Sep 10, 2013

Average scores that can be rounded to the nearest integer of 85 included 84.5, 84.6, 84.7, 84.8, 84.9, 85, 85.1, 85.2, 85.3 and 85.4. The total score will be 422.5, 423, 423.5, 424, 424.5, 425, 425.5, 426, 426.5 and 427 respectively.

Let the lowest score of third test be x. To obtain the lowest possible score for the fourth test, assume the score of fourth test is only slightly higher than x, that is x+1. Since all his scores are less than 95 and to get lowest possible score for the fourth test, assume the score for the remaining three tests be 92, 93 and 94.

Total score = 92+93+94+x+x+1=2x+280

Total scores of non integer are eliminated since all scores are integer, so do the total score. The possible total scores are now 423,424,425,426 and 427.Total scores of odd number are eliminated since they will result in non integer x. The possible total scores are now 424 and 426. To get lowest possible score for the fourth test, use the lowest total score, 424.

Total score = 2x+280 =424

x= 72

The fourth test has a score of x+1=72+1=73

Total score should be an integer. 422.5 and others non-integers are not allowed.

Aamir Faisal Ansari - 7 years, 9 months ago
Drew Cummins
Sep 9, 2013

Name the 5 scores A > B > C > D > E A > B > C > D > E . Combining the distinctness ( A B C D E A \neq B \neq C \neq D \neq E ) and upper bound ( A < 95 A < 95 ) constraints with the goal of finding the lowest value for D D , we determine A = 94 , B = 93 A=94, \, B=93 and C = 92 C=92 because for D D to be as low as possible, A , B A, \, B and C C must be as high as possible.

We can write these values into the average equation: 94 + 93 + 92 + D + E 5 = 85 279 + D + E = 425 D + E = 146 \begin{aligned} \frac{94 + 93 + 92 + D + E}{5} &= 85 \\ 279 + D + E &= 425 \\ D + E &= 146 \end{aligned}

The minimum D > E D>E is E + 1 E+1 , which gives us 2 E + 1 = 146 2E + 1 = 146 . Solving shows that D = 73.5 D=73.5 and E = 72.5 E=72.5 . D D and E E must be integers, however. A quick check shows that D = 73 D=73 is the minimum such integer satisfying all the constraints. \square

Saya Suka
May 18, 2019

This is like my own exam results. Half of my best subjects plus another worst half. But my best subjects put 95+ papers on the table so an A average would still be achievable then. Even better when the school changed it into weighted CGPA system. C in History and Biology, but who cares?
If we want to minimize the second lowest marks, we have to push the three good ones as high as can be, and the average down to the lowest possible.
(Highest three) + (Lowest two) ≥ 5x(Lowest possible average).
(94 + 93 + 92) + (n + (n+1)) ≥ 5 * (85 - 0.5).
279 + 2n+1 ≥ 5 * 84.5.
2n + 280 ≥ 422.5.
2n ≥ 142.5, and n is integer.
n ≥ 71.25, so n = 72.
The question asked for the second lowest score, so answer is n+1 = 73.







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