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Algebra Level 4

If a , b , c , d a,b,c,d be four integers such that a d ad is odd and b c bc is even, determine the type of rots the equation a x 3 + b x 2 + c x + d = 0 ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d=0 has.

It has at least one irrational root It has all three integral root None of these choices It has all three rational root

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Let us assume that there are three rational roots of f ( x ) f(x) , namely p 1 q 1 , p 2 q 2 \dfrac{p_1}{q_1},\dfrac{p_2}{q_2} and p 3 q 3 \dfrac{p_3}{q_3} where we have WLOG q 1 , q 2 , q 3 > 0 q_1,q_2,q_3\gt 0 and gcd ( p i , q i ) = 1 1 i 3 \gcd(p_i,q_i)=1~\forall~1\leq i\leq 3

Now, by Vieta's formulas, we have,

\displaystyle\frac{p_1}{q_1}+\frac{p_2}{q_2}+\frac{p_3}{q_3}=-\frac ba\implies a(p_1q_2q_3+p_2q_3q_1+p_3q_1q_2)=-bq_1q_2q_3\tag 1

\displaystyle\frac{p_1p_2}{q_1q_2}+\frac{p_2p_3}{q_2q_3}+\frac{p_2p_2}{q_1q_2}=\frac ca\implies a(p_1p_2q_3+p_2p_3q_1+p_3p_1q_2)=cq_1q_2q_3\tag 2

Now, since a d ad is odd, both a , d a,d must be odd and since b c bc is even, either b b or c c is even.

By the rational root theorem and since both a , d a,d are odd, we know that all the p i p_i 's and q i q_i 's are odd and hence any product involving the p i p_i 's and the q i q_i 's will be odd.

If b b is even, we consider ( 1 ) (1) for which the LHS is odd × \times odd = = odd and the RHS is even × \times odd = = even which is a contradiction since LHS and RHS cannot have different parity.

If c c is even, we consider ( 2 ) (2) and use a similar argument to show that the parity of the LHS and the RHS is different which is a contradiction.

Hence, in both cases, we arrive at a contradiction and hence our assumption that f ( x ) f(x) has all rational roots was wrong.

Therefore, f ( x ) f(x) cannot have all rational roots.

What if we have 1 rational root and 2 imaginary roots? You have clearly proved that all of the roots cannot be rational.

For example a=1, b=2, c=2, d=1 has only 1 integral root and rest are imaginary.(Root is -1)

Ajinkya Shivashankar - 4 years, 3 months ago

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We can't have all the roots rational at the same time, and we are done. A cubic equation has either 1 rational root or 3 because irrational or imaginary occur in paris. What's the doubt here ?

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Are imaginary numbers irrational? If yes then answer is correct and if no then answer must be none of these.

Archit Agrawal - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Archit Agrawal No imaginary numbers are complex numbers with real part zero and the imaginary part might be irrational too. So the expression can not have all rational roots. So the statement "has exactly one rational rooot" would have been the best option

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 4 years, 3 months ago

A cubic equation has atleast one real root. The real root can be rational or irrational root. In this question, the real root need not be rational/integral all the time, it can be irrational as well as mentioned in the counter example. Also it is not guaranteed that there is atleast one irrational real root, if it must then it has two irrational real roots and one rational root. I think the question can be reframed to show that the equation has two {irrational + real} roots or two {imaginary + irrational} roots. Given how the question is framed the answer must be, none of the choices. Or if we ignore the real/imaginary tag, we can say the equation has two irrational roots, and one rational real root.

Siva Bathula - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Siva Bathula The question is well stated to be "Doesn't have all rational roots" and of course is an ISI entrance exam question. So we need not investigate further but we do guarantee it doesn't have 3 rational roots. I don't see why we are gonna investigate the possibilities

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Aditya Narayan Sharma The only option that fits is, it has atleast one irrational root. It actually has two irrational roots as you proved, both real real or both imaginary. Nothing wrong in laying it out clearly. The confusion around the options was maybe supposed to be tricky, given that it is some entrance exam question.

Siva Bathula - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Siva Bathula Not necessarily it has one irrational root, the options are changed I c. I m repeating that It doesn't have all rational roots was the original question and the author has modified it , not all rational roots means it may have a rational and two complex roots, two rational and one irrational root of the a b a\sqrt{b} where b is square-free.

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Aditya Narayan Sharma Irrational roots need not appear in pairs, it is definitely possible that a cubic can have two imaginary(both rational or both irrational conjugate) and one irrational. The single irrational real root need not have an irrational conjugate as a root, so the option 'It has at least one irrational root' is actually correct.

Siva Bathula - 4 years, 3 months ago

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