Almost AIME 2

Algebra Level 4

If P P is the product of nonreal roots of the quartic x 4 4 x 3 + 6 x 2 4 x 2015 x^4 - 4x^3 + 6x^2 - 4x - 2015 , then find the integer part of P P .

44 45 42 2015 46

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Jared Low
Oct 9, 2015

We have: x 4 4 x 3 + 6 x 2 4 x + 1 2016 = ( x 1 ) 4 2016 = 0 x^4-4x^3+6x^2-4x+1-2016=(x-1)^4-2016=0

( x 1 ) 4 = 2016 \Rightarrow (x-1)^4=2016

Nonreal solutions are thus 1 ± 2016 4 i 1\pm\sqrt[4]{2016}i , their product being 1 + 2016 1+\sqrt{2016} .

So our answer is 1 + 2016 = 45 \lfloor1+\sqrt{2016}\rfloor=\boxed{45}

exactly same solution

Department 8 - 5 years, 8 months ago

Please correct the typo (3rd line).

Abhishek Sharma - 5 years, 8 months ago

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What typo?

Jared Low - 5 years, 8 months ago

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It should be 4th root of 2016, not square root.

Abhishek Sharma - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Abhishek Sharma Thanks, the typo has been corrected now.

Prasun Biswas - 5 years, 7 months ago

44 square is 1936.question should have 1935 instead of 2015

Jaskeerat Singh - 5 years, 8 months ago

How can you assume that the answer has to be floor(P)?

Jonas Katona - 5 years, 7 months ago

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Nothing has been "assumed" here.

The question says "Find the integer part of P P ", i.e., the answer is the integral part of P P . Now, P = 1 + 2016 P=1+\sqrt{2016} is clearly a non-negative real. Hence, by definition of floor function, the answer is P \lfloor P\rfloor .

Here's an brief explanation: Consider a non-negative real x = k + t x=k+t where k k is the integral part of x x and t t is the fractional part [ 0 , 1 ) \in [0,1) . Then, from basic properties of floor function, we have x = k + t = k + t \lfloor x\rfloor = \lfloor k+t\rfloor=k+\lfloor t\rfloor . Since t [ 0 , 1 ) t\in [0,1) by construction, t = 0 \lfloor t\rfloor = 0 and hence k = x k=\lfloor x\rfloor . Recall that k k was defined to be the integral part of non-negative x x and hence, the integral part of a non-negative real is x \lfloor x\rfloor .

Note: Notice that for negative x x , the integral part is given by x \lceil x\rceil (try to prove this one on your own, use a method similar to the above).

Prasun Biswas - 5 years, 7 months ago

shouldnt we take the nearest integer and not the floor? otherwise it would be nice if you specifically added the floor notation, thanks

Edgar Wang - 5 years, 6 months ago

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