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Is 351491 prime ?


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If we have some number, say 1734187 1734187 , and we can put some 'splittings' in between some of digits like so

17 ¦ 34 ¦ 187 \color{#3D99F6}{17}¦\color{#D61F06}{34}¦\color{#20A900}{187} where each new number within some split is divisible by a prime (in this case 17 17 ) then the number itself cannot be a prime. This is because we can write

1734187 = ( 17 ) 1 0 5 + ( 34 ) 1 0 3 + ( 187 ) 1734187 = (\color{#3D99F6}{17})10^5 + (\color{#D61F06}{34})10^3 + (\color{#20A900}{187} )

and each term in the right-hand side is divisible by 17 hence the number itself is.

This generalises nicely to all natural numbers.

Using this idea we can look at splitting the given number 351491 351491 into splits with a common prime factor.

One way we can do this 35 ¦ 14 ¦ 91 \color{#3D99F6}{35}¦\color{#D61F06}{14}¦\color{#20A900}{91} and since 7 7 divides all the splits it must be a divisor!

So 351491 351491 itself is not prime!

Nice observation :)

Eli Ross Staff - 5 years, 2 months ago

it's nice solution

sri lakshmi topella - 5 years, 2 months ago

Super observation sir

Akhil Sreelakam - 5 years, 2 months ago
Kay Xspre
Mar 21, 2016

I slice them into 35 14 91 35|14|91 . The three number in each slice has GCD at 7, but in different "hundreds" scale, so I conclude it NOT a prime. To prove that, expand the number to ( 35 × 1 0 4 ) + ( 14 × 1 0 2 ) + 91 (35×10^4)+(14×10^2)+91 Or, in an incomplete factorization, which proves the number is NOT a prime 7 × ( ( 5 × 1 0 4 ) + ( 2 × 1 0 2 ) + 13 ) 7×((5×10^4)+(2×10^2)+13)

汶良 林
Mar 26, 2016

491 - 351 = 140 is divisible by 7 hence the number itself is.

1001 = 7×11×13

351491 = 351351 + 140 = 351×1001 + 140

This is great :)

Roberto Nicolaides - 5 years, 2 months ago
Jeremy Ho
Mar 26, 2016

If asked a question like this (and expected to solve without a computer), the most likely solution is no. :)

Showing a number is prime is harder than showing that it is not.

Warren Cowley
Mar 21, 2016

351491's prime factorization is: 7 * 149 * 337.

Therefore, 351491 is not a prime number.

I feel sorry to you, you didn't get the maximum enjoyment :p

Resha Dwika Hefni Al-Fahsi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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True - not this time . Don't feel sorry for me though. :-) I get maximum enjoyment out of music and other math problems that are not easily solved by a computer.

Warren Cowley - 5 years, 2 months ago

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Haha, glad to hear it, Warren!

Roberto Nicolaides - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Roberto Nicolaides Thinking about this problem a little more deeply now. could it be proved that is not prime by a brute force - division - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 .. until you hit 7. That would take much longer then your solution -though?. Also wondering if the method that you used to discover if this is a prime is broadly applicable?

Warren Cowley - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Warren Cowley Wow, good question - deep thinking indeed!

The brute force method will certainly work, it would just be a bore to do by hand in this case, you're right.


As for applying it elsewhere, this is a great idea!

One thing to notice is that, unfortunately, the converse is not true. In other words, just because something is divisible by some prime p p that we can use this method (assuming that we have some non-trivial splitting) to check if its prime.

For example

91 = 7 13 91 = 7*13 but we can't split 91 91 into smaller parts that are divisible 7 7 .


One relatively cool thing it is useful for is for creating massive multiples of primes easily by "gluing" lots of multiples of primes next to eachother.

For example we can put get a load of multiples of 13 13 such as 13 , 39 , 143 13,39,143 and glue them together how ever we want, eg 1433913 1433913 and we know that that is prime.


It could be very interesting find out a formula for the maximum amounts of splits each number can have given a prime divisor of itself and see if this follows a cool pattern?

I expect maybe there are some really cool applications that we can use this for that I don't have the imagination to see right now (perhaps into checking if polynomials or knots are irreducible too?).

If you have any cool ideas, be sure to send them my way!

Roberto Nicolaides - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Roberto Nicolaides This is maximum enjoyment! I like the idea of creating massive multiples of primes by gluing them together. Seems like a formula for this might be useful in cryptography in some way? I will be thinking about this now and I will post my discoveries. I am thinking - something can be programmed if it can be reduced to a formula and an algorithm. It might be reinventing the wheel in some way, though- as I do not have a lot of expertise in this area.

Warren Cowley - 5 years, 2 months ago

@Roberto Nicolaides Actually maybe not cryptography but discovering large primes? I don't know- my breadth of knowledge in this area is minuscule and I am pretty sure someone in the past has already tread this ground. Warrants further inspection though.

Warren Cowley - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Warren Cowley "Warrants further inspection though." Agreed, sounds like you're full of good ideas and a great imagination. Be sure to keep me updated :)

Roberto Nicolaides - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Roberto Nicolaides Thank you for the compliment, Roberto! I will keep you updated. Thanks for the problems on your account here at Brilliant as well.

Warren Cowley - 5 years, 2 months ago

Nice, how did you get the prime factorisation?

Roberto Nicolaides - 5 years, 2 months ago

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Using a computer - lol :-)

Warren Cowley - 5 years, 2 months ago
Munem Shahriar
Jun 28, 2017

No , 351491 isn't a prime number , it is divisible by 7 .

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