An algebra problem by Aareyan Manzoor

Algebra Level 5

How many zeros does the following function have?

P ( x ) = x P ( 9 ) + x P ( 8 ) + x P ( 7 ) + x P ( 6 ) + x P ( 5 ) + x P ( 4 ) + x P ( 3 ) + x P ( 2 ) + x P ( 1 ) + x P ( x ) P(x)=x^{P(9)}+x^{P(8)}+x^{P(7)}+x^{P(6)}+x^{P(5)}+x^{P(4)}+x^{P(3)}+x^{P(2)}+x^{P(1)}+\dfrac{x}{P(x)}


This question is flagged because it seems like we need to make the assumption that P ( x ) P(x) is a polynomial defined over the complex numbers.


The answer is 0.

This section requires Javascript.
You are seeing this because something didn't load right. We suggest you, (a) try refreshing the page, (b) enabling javascript if it is disabled on your browser and, finally, (c) loading the non-javascript version of this page . We're sorry about the hassle.

3 solutions

U Z
Dec 30, 2014

A polynomial is always continuous,

Given,

P ( x ) = x P ( 9 ) + x P ( 8 ) + x P ( 7 ) + x P ( 6 ) + x P ( 5 ) + x P ( 4 ) + x P ( 3 ) + x P ( 2 ) + x P ( 1 ) + x P ( x ) P(x)=x^{P(9)}+x^{P(8)}+x^{P(7)}+x^{P(6)}+x^{P(5)}+x^{P(4)}+x^{P(3)}+x^{P(2)}+x^{P(1)}+\dfrac{x}{P(x)}

This implies the denominator should not be zero , thus zero solutions


Please comment , Please correct me.

Define denominator.

Julian Poon - 6 years, 5 months ago

Log in to reply

i = 0 n a i x i \displaystyle \sum_{i=0}^{n} a_{i}x^{i}

am I wrong @Julian Poon Sir

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago

Log in to reply

Sorry, I just did not know what do you mean by demominator. And I don't get how non-zero denominators makes you say that there are 0 roots. Btw, im younger than you, dont need to call me sir.

Julian Poon - 6 years, 5 months ago

Log in to reply

@Julian Poon Definition of polynomial says it is continuous over R. thus the given polynomial should also be continuous over R.

Thanks for asking me question , here i may be totally wrong too , so what's your age

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago

Log in to reply

@U Z 14 \text{14}

Julian Poon - 6 years, 5 months ago

Log in to reply

@Julian Poon Do you agree with what I say

Please ask me question, I want to release myself

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago

Log in to reply

@U Z No... I dont agree... sorry... I cant find a proof for that statement. Happy new year!

Julian Poon - 6 years, 5 months ago

Log in to reply

@Julian Poon Thanks , can you give some contradictory statement to that point.

Same to you

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago

Log in to reply

@U Z I don't have a contradictory statement to prove this is wrong and I don't have a proof on why this is correct. I don't know anything! yay. thats why I did not agree

Julian Poon - 6 years, 5 months ago

Log in to reply

@Julian Poon What Megh means is at x = 0 x = 0 , x P ( x ) \frac{x}{P(x)} is of the form 0 0 \frac{0}{0} ; thus, P ( x ) P(x) is discontinuous and not a polynomial.

Jake Lai - 6 years, 5 months ago
Abhishek Sinha
Dec 30, 2014

Clarification : P ( x ) P(x) is assumed to be a Polynomial throughout.

Solution : Simplifying the given expression, we have P 2 ( x ) = P ( x ) i = 1 9 x P ( i ) + x P^2(x)=P(x)\sum_{i=1}^{9}x^{P(i)}+x Let α \alpha be a root of P ( x ) P(x) . Thus P ( α ) = 0 P(\alpha)=0 . Putting x = α x=\alpha in the above, we have 0 = 0 + α 0=0+\alpha i.e., α = 0 \alpha=0 Hence all roots of the polynomial P ( x ) P(x) are zero. Thus P ( x ) P(x) is of the form x d x^d for some positive integer d 1 d\geq 1 ( P ( x ) 0 P(x)\equiv 0 is not allowed). Hence we have the following identity x 2 d x d i = 1 9 x i d + x x^{2d}\equiv x^d\sum_{i=1}^{9}x^{i^d}+x Since 9 d + d > 2 d 9^d +d> 2d , for any d 1 d\geq 1 , the above expression is impossible to satisfy. Hence no such polynomial P ( x ) P(x) is possible. \blacksquare

Omkar Kamat
Dec 30, 2014

We will assume that a nonconstant polynomial exists with n roots and show that this cannot be the case.

Consider any non-zero roots. Let the root be A.(Note: This could be imaginary as well) . So (A)^2= (A^P(9)+.....+A^P(1))P(A)+x. Since P(A) is zero, we see that the LHS gives us 0 and the RHS gives us A. So all roots must be zero. So P(x)= Bx^n where B is the coefficient of x^n.

Repeating the above argument, we can see that n=1. So P(X)=Bx. Setting x=1 gives B=9.109.... or, -0.1097... If we check the 2 values, we see that neither of them work as the degrees of the polynomials are not the same and it is a well known fact that the highest degree term will dominate for very large values of x meaning that the 2 sides cannot be equal.

So no polynomials exist and so the number of roots is 0.

0 pending reports

×

Problem Loading...

Note Loading...

Set Loading...