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How many integer values of y y are there such that 5 y 2 9 2 y + 6 \dfrac{5y^2 - 9}{2y+6} is also an integer?


The answer is 6.

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Dragan Marković
Apr 27, 2016

Since the denominator is even, this means that the numerator must be even, which tells us that y is odd. 5 y 2 9 2 y + 6 \frac{5y^{2}-9}{2y+6} = 5 y 2 45 + 36 2 y + 6 \frac{5y^{2}-45+36}{2y+6} = 5 ( y 2 9 ) + 36 2 ( y + 3 ) \frac{5(y^{2}-9)+36}{2(y+3)} = 5 ( y + 3 ) ( y 3 ) + 36 2 ( y + 3 ) \frac{5(y+3)(y-3)+36}{2(y+3)} = 5 ( y + 3 ) ( y 3 ) 2 ( y + 3 ) \frac{5(y+3)(y-3)}{2(y+3)} + 36 2 ( y + 3 ) \frac{36}{2(y+3)} = 5 ( y 3 ) 2 \frac{5(y-3)}{2} + 18 y + 3 \frac{18}{y+3} Because y is odd 5 ( y 3 ) 2 \frac{5(y-3)}{2} and 18 y + 3 \frac{18}{y+3} are integers (y+3)|18 so y could be:±1,±2,±3,±6,±9 and ±18
We know that y is odd so y+3 is even so
y+3=2
y+3=-2
y+3=6
y+3=-6
y+3=18
y+3=-18
Finally we get six values of y:{-21,-9,-5,-1,3,15}. So there are 6 such ys.


I disagree that if A + B A+B is a whole number, then we must have A A and B B are individually whole numbers. Can you fill in the gap in the solution?

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 1 month ago

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Sir, I agree just I do not think that applies to this kind of problem, because in that case we would need y+3 to be a multiple of 2(in fact 2) and in that case we would get only one solution,and that's not we are looking for.

Dragan Marković - 5 years, 1 month ago

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For completeness, you have to explain why it doesn't apply. For example, one approach is to say

Since the denominator 2 y + 6 2y+6 is even, this means that the numerator 5 y 2 9 5y^2 -9 must be even, which tells us that y y is odd. Hence, 5 ( y 3 ) 2 \frac{ 5 ( y-3) }{2} is an integer and thus 18 y + 3 \frac{18}{y+3} must also be an integer.

But otherwise, it's could be possible to construct a scenario where the partial fraction terms need not be integers. As an explicit example, if we tried this problem with 5 y 2 + 5 y 24 2 y + 8 = 5 ( y 3 ) 2 + 18 y + 4 \frac{ 5y^2 + 5y - 24 }{2y+8} = \frac{ 5 (y-3)}{2} + \frac{18}{y+4} (the only change I made is using y + 4 y+4 instead of y + 3 y+3 in the denominator), then we have a solution of y = 40 y = - 40 while 18 y + 4 \frac{18}{y+4} is not an integer.


Note: I do like this problem, and think it's great. Esp since it can be used to highlight a common oversight made by people.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Calvin Lin Oh i see your point! I should've said it at the start! Thank you sir!

Dragan Marković - 5 years, 1 month ago

@Calvin Lin I never thought this at first. But with your comment, I have given the solution I think is complete.

Niranjan Khanderia - 5 years, 1 month ago
Otto Bretscher
May 11, 2016

Clearly, y y must be odd, y = 2 x + 1 y=2x+1 , so that 5 y 2 9 2 y + 6 = 5 x 5 + 9 x + 2 \frac{5y^2-9}{2y+6}=5x-5+\frac{9}{x+2} . Thus x + 2 = ± 1 , ± 3 x+2=\pm 1, \pm 3 or ± 9 \pm 9 . There are 6 \boxed{6} solutions for x x and y y .

Nicely done.!

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

I got first answer from TI -83 PLUS and then confirmed by method below.

5 y 2 9 2 y + 6 = 1 2 ( ( 5 y 2 + 15 y ) ( 15 y + 45 ) + 36 y + 3 ) = 1 2 ( 5 y 15 ) ) + 18 y + 3 . I f y i s e v e n , 5 y 15 2 = o d d 2 , s o 18 y + 3 m u s t a l s o b e = o d d 2 . 18 y + 3 = 3 2 o r 9 2 . 36 = 3 ( y + 3 ) O R 36 = 9 ( y + 3 ) . B o t h n o t p o s s i b l e w i t h e v e n y . S o y i s n o t e v e n . I f y i s o d d , 5 y 15 2 is an integer. ............ So (y+3) |18 with odd y. ( y+3) is even. And 18=2*odd. So only odd factors of 18 to be considered. Odd Factors of 9:- {-9, -3. -1, 1, 3, 9} Corresponding y:- -5, -9, -21, 15, 3, -1 6 v a l u e s o f y . \dfrac{5y^{2}-9}{2y+6}= \frac 1 2 \left (\dfrac{(5y^{2}+15y) - (15y+45) +36}{y+3} \right ) = \frac 1 2 \left (5y - 15) \right )+\dfrac {18}{y+3}.\\ If\ y\ is\ even,\\ \therefore \ \dfrac{5y- 15} 2=\dfrac{odd} 2,\ so\ \dfrac {18}{y+3} \ must\ also\ be\ =\dfrac{odd} 2.\\ \implies\ \dfrac {18}{y+3}= \ \frac 3 2\ \ or\ \ \ \frac 9 2.\\ \implies\ 36=3(y+3) \ \ OR\ \ 36=9(y+3). \ \ Both \ not\ possible\ with \ even\ y.\ So\ y\ is\ not\ even.\\ If\ y\ is\ odd,\\ \therefore \ \dfrac{5y-15} 2 \text{ is an integer. ............ So (y+3) |18 with odd y.} \\ \implies\ \text{( y+3) is even. And 18=2*odd. So only odd factors of 18 to be considered.}\\ \text{Odd Factors of 9:- \{-9, -3. -1, 1, 3, 9\}}\\ \text{Corresponding y:- {-5, -9, -21, 15, 3, -1} }\\ {\Large \color{#D61F06}{6} } \ \ values\ of\ y.

Tay Yong Qiang
May 6, 2016

After Long Division,

5 y 2 9 2 y + 6 = 5 2 ( y 3 ) + 18 y + 3 \frac{5y^2-9}{2y+6}=\frac{5}{2}(y-3)+\frac{18}{y+3}

2 y + 6 2y+6 is even 5 y 2 9 \Rightarrow 5y^2-9 is even 5 y 2 \Rightarrow 5y^2 is odd y \Rightarrow y has to be odd.

Since y y is odd, 5 2 ( y 3 ) \frac{5}{2}(y-3) is an integer 18 y + 3 \therefore \frac{18}{y+3} is an integer as well. y + 3 \therefore y+3 is an even integer factor of 18, since y y is odd as stated above.

18 = 1 × 18 = 2 × 9 = 3 × 6 \because 18=1\times 18=2\times 9=3\times6

We have ± 2 , ± 6 , ± 18 \pm 2,\pm 6,\pm 18

6 \therefore\boxed{6} integer solutions of y y correspondingly.

Well explained +1!!

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago
William Isoroku
May 11, 2016

Using partial fractional decomposition, the expression becomes; 5 ( y 3 ) 2 + 36 2 y + 6 \frac { 5(y-3) }{ 2 } +\frac { 36 }{ 2y+6 }

Thus, y y has to be odd and the rest could be done by simple substitution of integers.

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