An algebra problem by K. J. W.

Algebra Level 4

Let f f be a real-valued function so that f ( x ) = a x 2 + b x + c f(x) = a{ x }^{ 2 } + bx + c for any real x x , where a a , b b and c c are distinct non-zero real numbers. If f ( a ) = b f(a) = b , f ( b ) = c f(b) = c , and f ( c ) = a f(c) = a , what is a + b + c ? a + b + c?


The answer is 1.5.

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2 solutions

@K. J. W. Just to let you know, there are actually two possible solutions. We can have a = -1, b = 1/2 and c = 2, giving us a + b + c = 3/2 = 1.5, but we can also have a = b = c = -1, giving us a + b + c = -3, (which is what I plugged in on my first attempt).

In order for there to be a unique solution, you may want to specify that a, b and c must be unequal. Otherwise, good question. :)

EDIT: O.k., now for an actual solution.

Plugging in a, b and c in turn, we have the following three equations:

(i) a 3 + a b + c = b a^{3} + ab + c = b , (ii) a b 2 + b 2 + c = c ab^{2} + b^{2} + c = c , and (iii) a c 2 + b c + c = a ac^{2} + bc + c = a .

From (ii) we see that ( a + 1 ) b 2 = 0 (a + 1) * b^{2} = 0 . Since we are given that the numbers must be non-zero we can conclude that a = 1 a = -1 .

Now (i) becomes 1 b + c = b -1 - b + c = b , and so c = 2 b + 1 c = 2b + 1 .

Next, (iii) becomes c 2 + b c + c = 1 -c^{2} + bc + c = -1 . Now plug c = 2 b + 1 c = 2b + 1 into this last equation and simplify to find that 2 b 2 b + 1 = 0 -2b^{2} - b + 1 = 0 , which has solutions b = 1 b = -1 and b = 1 / 2 b = 1/2 .

Since a, b and c must be distinct we can rule out b = 1 b = -1 . This leaves us with b = 1 / 2 b = 1/2 , and c = 2 b + 1 = 2 c = 2b + 1 = 2 .

Finally, we have a + b + c = 1 + ( 1 / 2 ) + 2 = 1.5 a + b + c = -1 + (1/2) + 2 = \boxed{1.5} .

Thanks for the feedback. I added the word 'distinct'.

K. J. W. - 6 years, 11 months ago

I understand the fact that since its a quadratic, you do have two solutions...but could you be a bit more clear? Method of solving?

Jayakumar Krishnan - 6 years, 11 months ago

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@Jayakumar Krishnan My initial post was to assist K.J.W. in wording the question so that there would be a unique solution. I've now edited my post to include a proper solution. I hope that it makes sense. :)

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 11 months ago

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Ah! Yes. Thank you so much @brian charlesworth - I'd almmost gotten it, just made a mistake in finding out "b" :(

Jayakumar Krishnan - 6 years, 11 months ago

Thank you sir for this solution

Sunny Raj - 6 years, 11 months ago

i disagree. put x=0 in the eqn and u will find that f(0)=c. and we already have f(b)=c. that means b=0. now put b=0 in the remaining eqn and one finds tha a=+-1.15, 0. and c=-a^3. solving these, we get a+b+c=2.67, 0.37, 0...............therefore i got three answers.

Rishi Hazra - 6 years, 11 months ago

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That's an interesting point, but the fact that f(0) = f(b) = c would imply that b=0 only if f(x) were a bijection. However, f(x), being a quadratic, is not a bijection, so we can have f(0) = f(b) without requiring that b = 0. Note also that I have the equation (a + 1)*b^2 = 0 as part of my solution, but ruled out b = 0 because we are told that a, b and c must be non-zero real numbers.

If we were allowed to have b = 0, then that would lead to 3 solutions as you point out, (I actually get -2.67, -0.37, 0), in addition to the 2 solutions I found initially, namely 1.5 and -3, for a total of 5 solutions. However, when K.J.W. first posted the question he did specify that a, b and c had to be non-zero, which meant that the solutions could only be 1.5 and -3. Once he added the word "distinct", we could then conclude that the unique solution was 1.5. I hope that my logic makes sense. :)

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 11 months ago

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WHAT IS BIJECTION?

math man - 6 years, 11 months ago

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@Math Man A bijection, (also called a bijective function), is just a function that exhibits a one-to-one correspondence between sets. This would then imply that if f(a) = f(b) then a must equal b. Now a quadratic function is not a one-to-one correspondence, so the fact that f(0) = f(b) does not necessarily imply that b = 0.

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 11 months ago

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@Brian Charlesworth not just one one but onto correspondence also sir....

Akshay Bhatia - 6 years, 8 months ago

f(x)=f(y) does not imply x=y

Himadri Mukherjee - 6 years, 10 months ago

It is mentioned "distinct non-zero ", I missed it !

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 11 months ago
Gian Mark Pulgar
Jul 24, 2014

After substituting a,b, and c to the equation; it will arrive at three equations:

a^3 + ba + c = b <----- 1

ab^2 + b^2 + c = c <-----2

ac^2 + bc + c = a <-----3

Start solving on eqn no. 2;

ab^2 + b^2 + c = c

ab^2 + b^2 = 0

Factor:

b^2(a+1) = 0

b = 0 and a = -1, but b is absurd since the condition is nonzero.

Substitute a = -1 to eqn no. 1,

-1 - b + c = b

this becomes c = 2b + 1, then substitute this to equation no. 3;

-4b^2 - 4b - 1 + 2b^2 + b + 2b + 1 = -1

Combine like terms then rearrange:

-2b^2 - b + 1 = 0

Factor this trinomial,

(1-2b)(b+1) = 0

values for b are 1/2 and -1, but -1 is absurd since the condition is distinct.

Substitute b = 1/2 to c = 2b + 1, you'll get c = 2. Last, get their sum;

-1 + 1/2 + 2 = 3/2 or 1.5

Just a thought, but couldn't a, b, and c all equal -1 and still make the equations true?

Michael Toriyama - 6 years, 10 months ago

a,b and c are distinct after my last edit in early July

K. J. W. - 6 years, 10 months ago

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