If 2 x = 3 y = 6 , then which of the following statements is true?
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2 x = 2 ∗ 3 ∴ 3 = 2 x − 1 S o a l s o 2 = 3 y − 1 3 1 = 2 x − 1 = { 3 x − 1 } y − 1 = 3 x y − x − y + 1 ⟹ 1 = x y − x − y + 1 . ∴ x y = x + y .
simple approach
seems interestingly correct in mathematical way........ but what are the values of X and Y practically ..... as x+y=xy only in the condition where x=2 and y=2 but this solution doesn't satisfy the given equation as 2^2=4 instead of 6 and 3^2=9 instead of 6 ...........
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You are thinking in terms of solution with INTEGERS only. However x=2.584962501, and y=1.630929754 will satisfy the equations.
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Hi! Sir may you tell me plz how did you calculate?
Wow and how do you calculate that
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@Jet Sirilim – x L o g 2 = L o g 2 + L o g 3 ⟹ x = 1 + L o g 2 L o g 3 = 2 . 5 8 4 9 6 2 5 0 1 So also y.
It's not a sufficient condition, it's just a necessary condition..
Well x and y are irrational numbers so I'm not sure if that makes it possible for x+y=xy
Anything to the power of 0 is 1 so 0+0=0×0
Where 6^1 = 6^1/x + 1/y, Why is the sum of 1/x and 1/y taken?
Nice approach. Congratulations.
That exactly is X and Y, ???????? The maximum value, I could find is 0.25
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M u l t i p l y 2 x = 6 a n d 3 y = 6 ⇒ 2 x × 3 y = 6 2 ⇒ 2 x × 3 y = ( 2 × 3 ) 2 ⇒ 2 x × 3 y = 2 2 × 3 2 ⇒ x = 2 a n d y = 2 From this xy = x + y 2 × 2 = 2 + 2 ⇒ 4 = 4
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(x = 2 and y = 2) is wrong: you assumed that 2^x = 2^2 and 2^y = 2^3 which is not necessary.
2 x = 3 y = 6 ⇒ x lo g 2 = y lo g 3 ⇒ y x = lo g 2 lo g 3
x lo g 2 = lo g 6 = lo g 2 + lo g 3 ⇒ x = 1 + lo g 2 lo g 3
⇒ x = 1 + y x ⇒ x y = y + x ⇒ x + y = x y
I also used the same trick !!!
I think this is best formate to solve this que. Congratulations!
Very good yaaar...excellent...
similar approach
Nice short solution.
that's very elegant
buay hiow leh. Log si simi?
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If y = 1 0 0 = 1 0 2 , then lo g 1 0 y = 2 .
Sir, Are there any integral solutions to the equation which you have solved and which also satisfies the original question condition?
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I don't get what you mean. x and y are not integral.
2^x=6 ====>x=log6/log2
3^y=6 ===>y=log6/log3 now, xy=(log 6)^2/(log 3*log 2)
x+y=log6((1/log 3)+(1/log 2)) ===>x+y=log 6((log 3+log 2)/(log 3 log 2)) ====>x+y=log 6((log 6)/(log 3 log 2)) ===>x+y=(log 6)^2/(log 3 log 2)) now (log 6)^2/(log 3 log 2)=x+y=xy so proved!!!!!!
ithink mine one is a long process isnt it???? @Chew-SeongCheong
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2 x = 6 , ⟹ x = l o g 2 l o g 6 3 y = 6 , ⟹ y = l o g 3 l o g 6 ∴ x y = ( l o g 3 ∗ l o g 2 ) ( l o g 6 ) 2 A n d x + y = l o g 6 ( l o g 3 1 + l o g 2 1 ) ⟹ x + y = l o g 6 ( l o g 3 ∗ l o g 2 l o g 3 + l o g 2 ) ⟹ x + y = l o g 6 l o g 3 ∗ l o g 2 l o g 6 = x + y = l o g 3 ∗ l o g 2 ( l o g 6 ) 2 ∴ l o g 3 ∗ l o g 2 ( l o g 6 ) 2 = x + y = x y p r o v e d ! ! ! ! ! !
I have Latexed your solution so that I may understand clearly what you mean.
nice solution
Firstly, multiply each of the exponents by x such that 6 x = 2 x × 3 x = 6 × 3 x = 3 x y ( 1). Then create another equation by multiplying the exponents of the original equation by y such that: 6 y = 2 y × 3 y = 6 × 2 y = 2 x y (2 ). Multiplying equations ( 1) and (2 ) together gives: 6 x + y = 6 x y ∴ x + y = x y
I'm probably missing something really obvious here but how did you get from 6 × 3 x = 3 x y ?
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6 x = 6 × 3 x and 6 x = ( 3 y ) x = 3 x y , so 6 × 3 x = 3 x y
Good thinking.
I did it in my head. The only way the fourth option works is if x any y are both 1 or -1. Not possible because 2^x =6
y-x = xy also eliminated as x must be larger than y and this would cause xy to be a negative number. Both exponents must be positive to satisfy the equation.
x-y=xy also no good. Both exponents must be greater than 1 and both positive to satisfy the equation. Since x>y >1 xy=x-y has no solution.
Since this is a legit problem not a trick question the only remaining solution x+y=xy is therefore the correct one.
Not a rigorous or elegant solution I admit but sound reasoning producing the correct answer. Took a lot longer to type than to work out.
This approach was workable only because it is a multiple choice question. If the question had been asked give the relationship between x and y I would have had to find a piece of paper.
Absolutely correct method. I liked it.
Same approach I took as I didn't have paper and it was the only approach I could do in my head. I also realised that x had to be between 2 and 3 and y hand to be between 1 and 2 which also helped me to eliminate answers quickly
2 x = 6 = > x = lo g 2 6 = lo g 2 ( 2 ∗ 3 ) = lo g 2 2 + lo g 2 3 = 1 + lo g 2 3 . 3 y = 6 = > y = lo g 3 6 = lo g 3 ( 3 ∗ 2 ) = lo g 3 3 + lo g 3 2 = 1 + lo g 3 2 . x y = ( 1 + lo g 2 3 ) ( 1 + lo g 3 2 ) = 1 + lo g 2 3 + lo g 3 2 + lo g 2 3 ∗ lo g 3 2 = 2 + lo g 2 3 + lo g 3 2 . I u s e d t h e f a c t t h a t lo g a b ∗ lo g b a = 1 . x + y = 1 + lo g 2 3 + 1 + lo g 3 2 = 2 + lo g 2 3 + lo g 3 2 . T h e c o n c l u s i o n i s : x + y = x y
If one is trying to find the correct one out of the alternatives given then x+y=xy is correct. However, if one substitutes these values in the given equation, it will not hold good as 2^2 is 4 and 3^2 is 9 both are quite different and also not equal to 6. Hence there appears some error in the given equation itself.
( 2 x ) y = 6 y and ( 3 y ) x = 6 x . So 2 x y 3 x y = 6 x 6 y , that is, 6 x y = 6 x + y = . Equate exponents.
Let us assume that 2 x = 3 y = 6 1 = k
So
2 1 = k 1 / x a n d 3 1 = k 1 / y
Now,
6 = 2 1 × 3 1
So
x 1 + y 1 = 1
So
x + y = x × y
The other authors have good explanations of the formal mathematical solution. This solution discusses answering the multiple choice question quickly, such as on a timed, standardized exam such as an SAT or GRE.
First, by looking at the equation, we know that x and y must be positive real numbers, both greater than 1, with x > y. Therefore the statements y - x = xy; xy = x / y; and x - y = xy must all be false, leaving x + y = xy the best choice.
y - x will be negative, xy must be positive.
For two numbers greater than 1, x / y must be closer to 1 than xy (this logic holds true for y / x = xy being false as well - it does not matter whether "closer to 1" is greater or less than 1, it is still less than xy).
Likewise, x - y must be closer to 0 than xy (again, same logic for y - x = xy being false).
So, on an exam, select x + y = xy, possibly marking it for a more rigorous check at the end if time permits.
So I used process of elimination. X and y must both be greater than 1 since 2^x and 3^y both equal six. Therefore, xy is greater than either x or y so subtracting these two variables in any order does not work since that will give a number less than either of them. Also, xy=x/y does not work since y would have to be one. That leaves only one answer.
I'm not sure with my solution but I got it right by doing this : 2^x = 6 -> log6 base 2 = x (1) 3^y = 6 -> log6 base 3 = y (2)
Then, we need to change the bases of eq 1 and 2 so they have same base, which is 10 [that's what I want XD] so [using a theorem wherein I forgot what it is called XD ]
x = log6/log2 and y = log6/log3
try adding them and you'll see that it is true that
log6/log2 + log6/log3 = log6(log3+log2)/log2*log3
note that log3+log2 = log6 [using a rule in addition of logs]
so log6(log3+log2) = log6*log6
try muliplying the two of them and you'll see that
log6/log2 * log6/log3 = log6(log6)/log2*log3
which is the same as the first one :-D
Hope it helped somebody to understand the problem :-D
2^x=6 and 3^y=6, therefor x>1 and y>1; xy>x/y (xy=x/y is not correct); x-y<xy (x-y=xy is not correct); 2<3, therefor x>y; y-x<0 and xy>0 (y-x=xy is not correct); x+y>x and x+y>y and xy>x and xy>y, so x+y=xy has to be correct answer (assuming that one answer is correct)
without solving, option x+y=xy is the only simetric equation and the original equations cannot bring a-simetric ones
2^x=6 => 2^(x-1)=3 and
3^x=6 it result that
2^((x-1)
y)=6 it result that
2^((x-1)
y)=2^x therefore (x-1)
y=x and x
y=x+y
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2 x = 6 ⟹ 2 = 6 x 1 . . . ( 1 )
3 y = 6 ⟹ 3 = 6 y 1 . . . ( 2 )
Multiplying the RHS's of eqs (1) and (2):
6 1 = 6 x 1 + y 1
So, 1 = x 1 + y 1 ⟹ x + y = x y