An algebra problem by nikhil jaiswal

Algebra Level 3

How many solutions are there to

x + 2 + x 5 = 7 ? | x+2| + |x-5| = 7?

8 5 none of these 0

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4 solutions

For x 2 x \le -2 we have

x + 2 = ( x + 2 ) = x 2 |x + 2| = -(x + 2) = -x - 2 and x 5 = ( x 5 ) = x + 5 |x - 5| = -(x - 5) = -x + 5 .

Thus for x 2 x \le -2 we have that

x + 2 + x 5 = 7 x 2 x + 5 = 7 |x + 2| + |x - 5| = 7 \Longrightarrow -x - 2 - x + 5 = 7

2 x = 4 x = 2 \Longrightarrow -2x = 4 \Longrightarrow x = -2 ,

which lies on the interval x 2 x \le -2 and hence is a valid solution.

For 2 x 5 -2 \le x \le 5 we have

x + 2 = x + 2 |x + 2| = x + 2 and x 5 = ( x 5 ) = x + 5 |x - 5| = -(x - 5) = -x + 5 .

Thus for 2 x 5 -2 \le x \le 5 we have that

x + 2 + x 5 = 7 x + 2 x + 5 = 7 7 = 7 |x + 2| + |x - 5| = 7 \Longrightarrow x + 2 - x + 5 = 7 \Longrightarrow 7 = 7 ,

which is a tautology and hence valid for all x x on this interval, i.e. there are an infinite number of solutions on this interval.

For x 5 x \ge 5 we have that

x + 2 = x + 2 |x + 2| = x + 2 and x 5 = x 5 |x - 5| = x - 5 .

Thus for x 5 x \ge 5 we have that

x + 2 + x 5 = 7 x + 2 + x 5 = 7 2 x = 10 x = 5 |x + 2| + |x - 5| = 7 \Longrightarrow x + 2 + x - 5 = 7 \Longrightarrow 2x = 10 \Longrightarrow x = 5 ,

which lies on the interval x 5 x \ge 5 and hence is a valid solution.

Thus the solution set is the interval [ 2 , 5 ] [-2,5] , i.e., an infinite number of solutions, making "none of these" the correct option.

i'd derived the same closed interval but i made the mistake of counting the integer solutions and went for 8 not even checking the fractional values...lol

Somesh Singh - 6 years, 8 months ago

given equation should have 4 solution.. I think

Poulomi Mukherjee - 6 years, 8 months ago
Nikhil Jaiswal
Oct 4, 2014

there are infinetely many solutions to this equation

how to prove it?

Felipe Magalhães - 6 years, 8 months ago

I found just 8

[-2; +5]

Victor Porto - 6 years, 8 months ago

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try 2.1. that will add one more solution, making it none of these

Abi Krishnan - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Thanks @Abi Krishnan !

Victor Porto - 6 years, 8 months ago
Sherif Mohamed
Oct 8, 2014

Just 2 solutions .... It will be made with guessing At first time we will guess both of them are +ve .. then the answer will be :

x+2 + x-5 =7; 2x-3=7; 2x = 10 => x=5

At the second time we will guess both of them are -ve ... then the answer will be :

-x-2-x+5 = 7; -2x + 3 = 7; -2x = 4 => x = -2

When we guess The first abs is +ve and the second is -ve the equation will be 7 = 7 A useless equation abd the first abs is -ve and the second is +ve the eqn. will be -7 = 7 A wrong eqn.

so the answer is... 2 solutions

But your 'useless equation' tells you that there are in fact an infinite number of solutions!

J Thompson - 6 years, 8 months ago

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How ? "infinite number of sln." and no variables?

Sherif Mohamed - 6 years, 8 months ago

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There are variables - they cancel out!

If we assume x + 2 x+2 is positive and x 5 x-5 is negative, then the equation becomes x + 2 x + 5 = 7 x+2-x+5=7 . Whatever value of x x we use, this simplifies to 7 = 7 7=7 - so all values of x x (an infinite number of them!) solve this equation!

Of course, our initial assumption is only true for 2 < x < 5 -2 < x <5 , but this still leaves an infinite number of solutions.

J Thompson - 6 years, 8 months ago

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@J Thompson Well try and substitute any value for x like you say and see if it works. The case here is that For whatever value of X you get the other modulus function cant get a negative of that X so both Xs must have the same sign basically. So they are either both positive or both negative.

Farouk Yasser - 6 years, 8 months ago

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@Farouk Yasser We're not saying that the x x values have different signs, we're saying that the expressions inside the modulus functions have different signs.

If x = 1 x = 1 , then x + 2 = 3 x + 2 = 3 (which is positive), and x 5 = 4 x - 5 = -4 (which is negative).

What the modulus function does is turn negative values into positive ones. Still using x = 1 x = 1 : x + 2 = 3 = 3 |x + 2| = |3| = 3 (positive) and x 5 = 4 = 4 |x -5| = |-4| = 4 (positive).

The sum of these two values is obviously 7 7 .

As I said above, this will work for any x [ 2 , 5 ] x \in [-2,5] .

J Thompson - 6 years, 8 months ago

@J Thompson you are right but 7=7 means there exist infinitly many solvs

Umar Habib - 6 years, 8 months ago

how come there are 8 solution when I get -2 and 5 as answers???

Tanvir Mahtab - 6 years, 8 months ago

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just 2 solutions...I think so

Sherif Mohamed - 6 years, 8 months ago

this is the best solution, i mean the 1st solution

Natasha Saha - 6 years, 8 months ago
M.S. Tej
Oct 8, 2014

The answer is 2 solutions ie., -2 and 5 ==> None of these for the given options.

what about all other x R 2 x 5 x\in\mathbb{R} \mid 2\leqslant x\leqslant 5 ? infinite solutions

Brett Hartley - 6 years, 8 months ago

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