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Algebra Level 2

x y z + 13 x + 13 y + 13 z = 0 xyz + 13x + 13y + 13z = 0

x y z + 13 x 13 y + 13 z = 0 xyz + 13x - 13y + 13z = 0

x y z + 13 x 13 y 13 z = 0 xyz + 13x - 13y - 13z = 0

x y z 13 x 13 y 13 z = 0 xyz - 13x - 13y - 13z = 0

x y z 13 x + 13 y 13 z = 0 xyz - 13x + 13y - 13z = 0

x y z 13 x + 13 y + 13 z = 0 xyz - 13x + 13y + 13z = 0

y = 0 y = 0

x = z x = -z

Solve for x , y , z x, y, z

Enter either 1 -1 for no solution or 1 1 for a solution


The answer is 1.

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4 solutions

Since y = 0 y = 0 , we can eliminate the y y variable:

x z + 13 x + 13 z = 0 xz + 13x + 13z = 0

x z + 13 x + 13 z = 0 xz + 13x + 13z = 0

x z + 13 x 13 z = 0 xz + 13x - 13z = 0

x z 13 x 13 z = 0 xz - 13x - 13z = 0

x z 13 x 13 z = 0 xz - 13x - 13z = 0

x z 13 x + 13 z = 0 xz - 13x + 13z = 0

Now, since all 6 6 equations are the same, we can eliminate 3 3 of them to create 3 3 simultaneous equations:

x z 13 x 13 z = 0 xz - 13x - 13z = 0

x z 13 x + 13 z = 0 xz - 13x + 13z = 0

x z + 13 x 13 z = 0 xz + 13x - 13z = 0

Now, since x = z x = -z , this must mean that z = x z = -x . We will now take two routes:

Route 1 1 - x = z x = -z :

Substitute x = z x = -z into the simultaneous equations:

z ( z ) 13 ( z ) 13 z = 0 -z(z) - 13(-z) - 13z = 0

z ( z ) 13 ( z ) + 13 z = 0 -z(z) - 13(-z) + 13z = 0

z ( z ) + 13 ( z ) 13 z = 0 -z(z) + 13(-z) - 13z = 0

Simplify:

z + 13 z 13 z = 0 -z + 13z - 13z = 0

z + 13 z + 13 z = 0 -z + 13z + 13z = 0

z 13 z 13 z = 0 -z - 13z - 13z = 0

Simplify even further:

z = 0 -z = 0

z + 26 z = 0 -z + 26z = 0

z 26 z = 0 -z - 26z = 0

Simplify the second equation even further:

25 z = 0 25z = 0 , z = 0 z = 0

Simplify the third equation even further:

27 z = 0 -27z = 0 , z = 0 z = 0

Since x = z x = -z , x = 0 x = 0

Route 2 2 - z = x z = -x :

Substitute z = x z = -x into the simultaneous equations:

x ( x ) 13 x 13 ( x ) = 0 x(-x) - 13x - 13(-x) = 0

x ( x ) 13 x + 13 ( x ) = 0 x(-x) - 13x + 13(-x) = 0

x ( x ) + 13 x 13 ( x ) = 0 x(-x) + 13x - 13(-x) = 0

Simplify:

x 13 x + 13 x = 0 -x - 13x + 13x = 0

x 13 x 13 x = 0 -x - 13x - 13x = 0

x + 13 x + 13 x = 0 -x + 13x + 13x = 0

Simplify even further:

x + 26 x = 0 -x + 26x = 0

x 26 x = 0 -x - 26x = 0

x = 0 -x = 0

Simplify the second equation even further:

25 x = 0 25x = 0 , x = 0 x = 0

Simplify the third equation even further:

27 x = 0 -27x = 0 , x = 0 x = 0

Since z = x z = -x , z = 0 z = 0

In both routes x = z = 0 x = z = 0 . Now since y = 0 y = 0 , x = y = z = 0 \fbox{x = y = z = 0} . We have a solution!

Therefore, the answer is 1 \fbox 1 .

If y=0, xyz would've equal 0 and not necessarily equal xz

Kenny O. - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

If x y z xyz and y = 0 y = 0 , usually the accepted answer for the whole equation will be 0, thereby the whole expression x y z xyz will be eliminated

@Yajat Shamji

Great solution though

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

Most solved problem in my profile! 26 26 and upwards... @Hamza Anushath

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

Only from the last three equations: x = y = z = 0 x=y=z=0

Nice! Wait for my solution, I guess? I was typing it...

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

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Okay! Are we going another round in the evening? With more time...

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

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Sure! Why not...

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

I just forgot, you need to do it in the Out of Hours Comment Room

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A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

What do you think of my solution, @Páll Márton ?

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

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Your solution is very long, but correct. My way: y = 0 ; x = z y=0;x=-z , therefore the last x y z xyz equation: 0 13 x + 0 13 x = 0 0-13x+0-13x=0 . So x = y = z = 0 x=y=z=0 . This means that we can eliminate the variables: 0 ± 0 ± 0 ± 0 = 0 0 \pm 0 \pm 0 \pm 0 = 0 .

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Nice, but you need to prove that for all equations. Hence why my solution is very long.

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Ok! Now go to solve the daily problem. 1 minute...

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@A Former Brilliant Member And my problem was bad, so I have deleted that and uploaded a new.

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@A Former Brilliant Member C - answer was A...

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

x =y=z=0 and a suggestion brilliant gives you three chances and there are only two possibility :-P lol

As y = 0 y = 0 , we can eliminate some expressions from the list of equations

13 x + 13 z 13x + 13z

13 x 13 z 13x - 13z

13 z 13 x 13z - 13x

13 z 13 x -13z - 13x

Replacing x x with z -z

13 x 13 x 13x - 13x

13 x + 13 x 13x + 13x

13 x 13 x -13x - 13x

13 x 13 x 13x - 13x

The double of a number will never be equal to zero unless the number itself is zero

As x x is zero, we have also proved that z = 0 z = 0 , as x = z x = -z

@Yajat Shamji , looks like I made your question too easy, with mathematical working applied. Tell me if there is any flaw in my working, okay?

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

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You mean z z with x -x , no? @Hamza Anushath

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

@Yajat Shamji , I think you must see this...

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

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What are you trying to say?

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

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Your title says "A possible problem...?" The link says "An impossible problem"

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Oh. I renamed it after the link was made.

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 4 weeks ago

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