An Old Sangaku Problem

Geometry Level 5

In an isosceles triangle A B C \triangle ABC , two equal right triangles B C D \triangle BCD and B D E \triangle BDE are drawn. Three identical circles of radius 1 1 are inscribed inside the triangles as shown:

The area of the isosceles A B C \triangle ABC can be expressed as a b \dfrac{a}{b} , where a a and b b are coprime positive integers. Find the sum a + b a+b .


The answer is 157.

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7 solutions

David Vreken
Jan 16, 2020

Method 1:

Let F F be the point of tangency between A A and E E , G G be the point of tangency between E E and B B , H H be the point of tangency between B B and C C , J J be the point of tangency between A A and C C , I 1 I_1 be the center of the incircle in A E C \triangle AEC , I 2 I_2 be the center of the incircle in B E D \triangle BED , and I 3 I_3 be the center of the incircle in B D C \triangle BDC .

Also let θ = D B C = D B E \theta = \angle DBC = \angle DBE . Then A B C = A C B = 2 θ \angle ABC = \angle ACB = 2\theta and B E D = B C D = 90 ° θ \angle BED = \angle BCD = 90° - \theta , which means A C E = 3 θ 90 ° \angle ACE = 3\theta - 90° and C E A = 90 ° + θ \angle CEA = 90° + \theta .

By properties of an incircle, H B I 3 = 1 2 θ \angle HBI_3 = \frac{1}{2}\theta , since the incircle has a radius of 1 1 , H I 3 = 1 HI_3 = 1 . Then by trigonometry on B H I 3 , B H = cot 1 2 θ \triangle BHI_3, BH = \cot \frac{1}{2}\theta . By a similar argument and letting t = cot 1 2 θ t = \cot \frac{1}{2} \theta , B G = cot 1 2 θ = t BG = \cot \frac{1}{2}\theta = t , G E = cot ( 45 ° 1 2 θ ) = t + 1 t 1 GE = \cot (45° - \frac{1}{2}\theta) = \frac{t + 1}{t - 1} , E F = cot ( 45 ° + 1 2 θ ) = t 1 t + 1 EF = \cot (45° + \frac{1}{2}\theta) = \frac{t - 1}{t + 1} , A F = A J = cot ( 90 ° 2 θ ) = 4 t ( t 2 1 ) ( t 2 2 t 1 ) ( t 2 + 2 t 1 ) AF = AJ = \cot (90° - 2\theta) = \frac{4t(t^2 - 1)}{(t^2 - 2t - 1)(t^2 + 2t - 1)} , and J C = cot ( 3 2 θ 45 ° ) = t 3 3 t 2 + 3 t + 1 t 3 3 t 2 3 t + 1 JC = \cot (\frac{3}{2}\theta - 45°) = \frac{-t^3 - 3t^2 + 3t + 1}{t^3 - 3t^2 - 3t + 1} . Since A B C \triangle ABC is an isosceles triangle, A B = A C AB = AC , so that:

t + t + 1 t 1 + t 1 t + 1 = t 3 3 t 2 + 3 t + 1 t 3 3 t 2 3 t + 1 t + \frac{t + 1}{t - 1} + \frac{t - 1}{t + 1} = \frac{-t^3 - 3t^2 + 3t + 1}{t^3 - 3t^2 - 3t + 1}

which simplifies to:

( t 3 ) ( t 2 + 1 ) ( t 2 + 2 t 1 ) = 0 (t - 3)(t^2 + 1)(t^2 + 2t - 1) = 0

so that t = 3 t = 3 or t = 2 1 t = \sqrt{2} - 1 for t > 0 t > 0 , but only t = 3 t = 3 leads to a positive solution for G E = t 1 t + 1 GE = \frac{t - 1}{t + 1} .

Therefore t = 3 t = 3 , so B C = t + t + 1 t 1 = 3 + 3 + 1 3 1 = 5 BC = t + \frac{t + 1}{t - 1} = 3 + \frac{3 + 1}{3 - 1} = 5 and A C = A B = 4 t ( t 2 1 ) ( t 2 2 t 1 ) ( t 2 + 2 t 1 ) + t 3 3 t 2 + 3 t + 1 t 3 3 t 2 3 t + 1 = 4 3 ( 3 2 1 ) ( 3 2 2 3 1 ) ( 3 2 + 2 3 1 ) + 3 3 3 3 2 + 3 3 + 1 3 3 3 3 2 3 3 + 1 = 125 14 AC = AB = \frac{4t(t^2 - 1)}{(t^2 - 2t - 1)(t^2 + 2t - 1)} + \frac{-t^3 - 3t^2 + 3t + 1}{t^3 - 3t^2 - 3t + 1} = \frac{4 \cdot 3(3^2 - 1)}{(3^2 - 2 \cdot 3 - 1)(3^2 + 2 \cdot 3 - 1)} + \frac{-3^3 - 3 \cdot 3^2 + 3 \cdot 3 + 1}{3^3 - 3 \cdot 3^2 - 3 \cdot 3 + 1} = \frac{125}{14} , so that the area by Heron's Formula is A A B C = 150 7 A_{\triangle ABC} = \frac{150}{7} , and 150 + 7 = 157 150 + 7 = \boxed{157} .


Method 2:

Let a = D C = D E a = DC = DE , b = B D b = BD , c = B C = B E c = BC = BE , d = A C = A B d = AC = AB , and θ = D B C = D B E \theta = \angle DBC = \angle DBE .

Since A B C \triangle ABC is an isosceles triangle, A B C = A C B = 2 θ \angle ABC = \angle ACB = 2\theta and B A C = 180 ° 4 θ \angle BAC = 180° - 4\theta .

From B D C \triangle BDC , sin θ = a c \sin \theta = \frac{a}{c} , cos θ = b c \cos \theta = \frac{b}{c} , and

a 2 + b 2 = c 2 a^2 + b^2 = c^2

From the double angle formulas, sin 2 θ = 2 a b c 2 \sin 2\theta = \frac{2ab}{c^2} and cos 2 θ = b 2 a 2 c 2 \cos 2\theta = \frac{b^2 - a^2}{c^2} and sin 4 θ = 4 a b ( b 2 a 2 ) c 4 \sin 4\theta = \frac{4ab(b^2 - a^2)}{c^4} .

By the law of sines on A B C \triangle ABC , sin ( 180 ° 4 θ ) c = sin 2 θ d \frac{\sin (180° - 4\theta)}{c} = \frac{\sin 2\theta}{d} , which after substitution and rearranging simplifies to:

d = c 3 2 ( b 2 a 2 ) d = \frac{c^3}{2(b^2 - a^2)}

Since A = s r A = sr for the area A A , semiperimeter s s , and inradius r r of a triangle, and the inradius of D B C \triangle DBC and A E C \triangle AEC is r = 1 r = 1 , A = s A = s . Then for D B C \triangle DBC ,

1 2 a b = 1 2 ( a + b + c ) \frac{1}{2}ab = \frac{1}{2}(a + b + c)

and for A E C \triangle AEC , 1 2 d ( d c ) sin 4 θ = 1 2 ( d c + d + 2 a ) \frac{1}{2}d(d - c) \sin 4\theta = \frac{1}{2}(d - c + d + 2a) , which after substitution and rearranging simplifies to:

2 a b ( d c ) = c ( 2 a + 2 d c ) 2ab(d - c) = c(2a + 2d - c)

These four equations simplify to:

( a 3 ) ( a 2 2 ) ( 3 a 2 6 a + 2 ) = 0 (a - 3)(a^2 - 2)(3a^2 - 6a + 2) = 0

so that a = 3 a = 3 , a = 2 a = \sqrt{2} , or a = 1 ± 3 3 a = 1 \pm \frac{\sqrt{3}}{3} for a > 0 a > 0 , but only a = 3 a = 3 leads to a positive solution for b = 2 ( a 1 ) a 2 b = \frac{2(a - 1)}{a - 2} .

Therefore, a = 3 a = 3 , b = 4 b = 4 , c = 5 c = 5 , and d = 125 14 d = \frac{125}{14} , and the area of A B C \triangle ABC is A A B C = 1 2 d 2 sin ( 180 ° 4 θ ) = 1 2 d 2 4 a b ( b 2 a 2 ) c 4 = 150 7 A_{\triangle ABC} = \frac{1}{2}d^2 \sin (180° - 4\theta) = \frac{1}{2} d^2 \cdot \frac{4ab(b^2 - a^2)}{c^4} = \frac{150}{7} , and 150 + 7 = 157 150 + 7 = \boxed{157} .

Nice solution Sir!

nibedan mukherjee - 1 year, 4 months ago

For the sake of plurality, let’s see a solution that bypasses trigonometry, using exclusively Euclidean geometry tools.

First notice that Δ B C D = Δ B E D \Delta \,BCD = \Delta \,BED .

Let F , G , H , K , L , Q , S , T F,\;G,\;H,\;K,\;L,\;Q,\;S,\;T be points of tangency and I 1 , I 2 , I 3 {I_1},\;{I_2},\;{I_3} the centres of the three circles, C N = h CN = h ( C N A B ) \left( {CN \bot AB} \right) , a as seen in the picture.
Label B F = B H = B G = a BF = BH = BG = a , C F = C K = E G = E L = b CF = CK = EG = EL = b , A S = A T = c AS = AT = c , E Q = E S = x EQ = ES = x (groups of equal tangent segments).

E I 1 E{I_1} and E I 2 E{I_2} are angle bisectors of A E C \angle AEC and B E C \angle BEC , thus θ + φ = 9 0 \theta + \varphi = 90^\circ . Consequently, Δ E I 2 L \Delta \,E{I_2}L and Δ E I 1 Q \Delta \,E{I_1}Q are similar right-angled triangles, hence

x 1 = 1 b x = 1 b ( 1 ) \frac{x}{1} = \frac{1}{b} \Rightarrow x = \frac{1}{b} \ \ \ \ \ (1) By Pythagorean theorem on Δ B C D \Delta \,BCD , ( a + b ) 2 = ( a + 1 ) 2 + ( b + 1 ) 2 {\left( {a + b} \right)^2} = {\left( {a + 1} \right)^2} + {\left( {b + 1} \right)^2} and this leads to a b = a + b + 1 ( 2 ) ab = a + b + 1 \ \ \ \ \ (2) Moreover, A B = A C B S = C T B S = C Q a + b + x = b + 1 + 1 + b x AB = AC \Rightarrow BS = CT \Rightarrow BS = CQ \Rightarrow a + b + x = b + 1 + 1 + b - x \Rightarrow 2 x = b a + 2 ( 3 ) 2x = b - a + 2 \ \ \ \ \ (3) Combining ( 1 ) (1) , ( 2 ) (2) and ( 3 ) (3) , we get to the equation b 3 5 b + 2 = 0 {b^3} - 5b + 2 = 0 which can be written as ( b 2 ) ( b + 1 + 2 ) ( b + 1 2 ) = 0 \left( {b - 2} \right)\left( {b + 1 + \sqrt 2 } \right)\left( {b + 1 - \sqrt 2 } \right) = 0 Thus, b = 2 b = 2 , or b = 2 1 b = \sqrt 2 - 1 ( b b is positive). But the last solution leads to a negative value for a a , therefor it is rejected.

Hence, b = 2 \boxed{b = 2} , so ( 2 ) (2) gives a = 3 \boxed{a=3} and ( 1 ) x = 1 2 \left( 1 \right) \Rightarrow \boxed{x = \frac{1}{2}} .

This means that triangles Δ B C D \Delta \,BCD and Δ B E D \Delta \,BED are 3-4-5 right-angled triangles .
(It is so gratifying how often we come across this triangle in Sangaku Problems!)

Now, we move to the calculations of areas.

By Heron’ s formula, for Δ B C E \Delta \,BCE , which has B C = B E = 5 BC = BE = 5 and C E = 6 CE = 6 , we get a r e a o f Δ B C E = 12 {\rm{area \ of \ }}\Delta BCE = 12 .

Alongside, we have a r e a o f Δ B C E = 1 2 B E h 12 = 1 2 × 5 × h h = 24 5 {\rm{area \ of \ }}\Delta BCE = \frac{1}{2}BE \cdot h \Rightarrow 12 = \frac{1}{2} \times 5 \times h \Rightarrow h = \frac{{24}}{5} .

For the area of Δ A E C \Delta \,AEC we use both formulae: A = r s A=rs , where r r is the inradius, s s is the semierimeter and A = 1 2 A E h A = \frac{1}{2}AE \cdot h .

s = A E + E C + C A 2 = 2 A S + 2 E S + 2 C Q 2 = c + x + ( C E x ) = c + 6 s = \frac{{AE + EC + CA}}{2} = \frac{{2AS + 2ES + 2CQ}}{2} = c + x + \left( {CE - x} \right) = c + 6 .

A r e a o f Δ A E C = 1 ( c + 6 ) = c + 6 {\rm{Area \ of \ }}\Delta \,AEC = 1 \cdot \left( {c + 6} \right) = c + 6

On the other hand, a r e a o f Δ A E C = 1 2 ( c + x ) h = 1 2 ( c + 1 2 ) 24 5 = 12 5 c + 6 5 {\rm{area \ of \ }}\Delta \,AEC = \frac{1}{2}\left( {c + x} \right) \cdot h = \frac{1}{2}\left( {c + \frac{1}{2}} \right) \cdot \frac{{24}}{5} = \frac{{12}}{5}c + \frac{6}{5} .

Hence, 12 5 c + 6 5 = c + 6 c = 24 7 \frac{{12}}{5}c + \frac{6}{5} = c + 6 \Rightarrow c = \frac{{24}}{7} .

Finally, a r e a o f Δ A B C = 1 2 A B h = 1 2 ( a + b + c + x ) h = 150 7 {\rm{area \ of \ }}\Delta \,ABC = \frac{1}{2}AB \cdot h = \frac{1}{2}\left( {a + b + c + x} \right) \cdot h = \frac{150}{7} and 150 + 7 = 157 150+7=\boxed{157}

Impeccable approach Sir!

nibedan mukherjee - 1 year, 4 months ago

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Thanks a lot. I'm still trying to understand your solution though... Can you, please, elaborate on it a little more?

Thanos Petropoulos - 1 year, 4 months ago

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Sir which portion of my solution? how I got BD = 4 , I reckon?

nibedan mukherjee - 1 year, 4 months ago

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@Nibedan Mukherjee Yes, but to begin with: How does a "Lateral inversion of Square KDJM along its side JM" result to square FG'LJ'?

Thanos Petropoulos - 1 year, 4 months ago

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@Thanos Petropoulos Consider triangles BED & BDC. Both are congruent. Since BE= BC, taking the mirror image of triangle BDC and placing it on triangle BDE along it's hypotenuse BE, results to rectangle FEDB, with FB = ED & FE = BD

nibedan mukherjee - 1 year, 4 months ago

Nice solution! By the way, do you have a Euclidean solution to your problem A small red segment and an angle ? I was able to find a trigonometric one but not a Euclidean one.

David Vreken - 1 year, 4 months ago

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Thank you David! In fact I do have one. I'll post it in a few days, as soon as I find the time. It's not a very short one.

Thanos Petropoulos - 1 year, 4 months ago

Hi David! I finally posted a Euclidean solution to A small red segment and an angle . I hope you like it.

Thanos Petropoulos - 1 year, 4 months ago

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Thanks, I'll take a look at it!

David Vreken - 1 year, 4 months ago

The only way I know how to solve this. Planned to post, but online games got in the way.

Saya Suka - 1 year, 4 months ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Jan 18, 2020

Let E B D = D B C = θ \angle EBD = \angle DBC = \theta and t = tan θ 2 t = \tan \dfrac \theta 2 . Then D B = 1 t + 1 = 1 + t t DB = \dfrac 1t + 1 = \dfrac {1+t}t ; E D = D B × tan θ = 1 + t × 2 t 1 t 2 = 2 1 t ED = DB \times \tan \theta = \dfrac {1+t} \times \dfrac {2t}{1-t^2} = \dfrac 2{1-t} ; and E C = 2 × E D = 4 1 t EC = 2 \times ED = \dfrac 4{1-t} . But also E C = 1 tan A E D 2 + 1 tan A C D 2 EC = \dfrac 1{\tan \frac {\angle AED}2} + \dfrac 1{\tan \frac {\angle ACD}2} . Then we have:

1 tan ( 4 5 + θ 2 ) + 1 tan ( 3 2 θ 4 5 ) = 4 1 t 1 t 1 + t + 3 t t 3 1 3 t 2 + 1 3 t t 3 1 3 t 2 1 = 4 1 t 1 t 1 + t 1 + 3 t 3 t 2 t 3 1 3 t 3 t 2 + t 3 = 4 1 t 1 t 1 + t ( 1 t ) ( 1 + 4 t + t 2 ) ( 1 + t ) ( 1 4 t + t 2 ) = 4 1 t 8 t ( t 1 ) ( 1 + t ) ( 1 4 t + t 2 ) = 4 1 t 2 t + 4 t 2 2 t 3 = 1 3 t 3 t 2 + t 3 3 t 3 7 t 2 t + 1 = 0 ( 3 t 1 ) ( t 2 2 t 1 ) = 0 t = 1 3 , 1 + 2 , 1 2 For acute θ t = tan θ 2 = 1 3 \begin{aligned} \frac 1{\tan \left(45^\circ + \frac \theta 2\right)} + \frac 1{\tan \left(\frac 32 \theta - 45^\circ \right)} & = \frac 4{1-t} \\ \frac {1-t}{1+t} + \frac {\frac {3t-t^3}{1-3t^2}+1}{\frac {3t-t^3}{1-3t^2}-1} & = \frac 4{1-t} \\ \frac {1-t}{1+t} - \frac {1+3t-3t^2-t^3}{1-3t-3t^2+t^3} & = \frac 4{1-t} \\ \frac {1-t}{1+t} - \frac {(1-t)(1+4t+t^2)}{(1+t)(1-4t+t^2)} & = \frac 4{1-t} \\ \frac {8t(t-1)}{(1+t)(1-4t+t^2)} & = \frac 4{1-t} \\ - 2t+4t^2 - 2t^3 & = 1-3t-3t^2+t^3 \\ 3t^3 - 7t^2 - t + 1 & = 0 \\ (3t-1)(t^2-2t-1) & = 0 \\ t & = \frac 13, 1 + \sqrt 2, 1 - \sqrt 2 & \small \blue{\text{For acute }\theta} \\ \implies t = \tan \frac \theta 2 & = \frac 13 \end{aligned}

Then B D = 1 t + 1 = 4 BD = \dfrac 1t + 1 = 4 and E D = D B = 2 1 t = 3 ED=DB = \dfrac 2{1-t} = 3 . Therefore, E B = B C = 5 EB=BC = 5 . The area of A B C = 1 2 × B C × B C 2 × tan ( 2 θ ) = 25 4 × 2 tan θ 1 tan 2 θ = 25 4 × 24 7 = 150 7 \triangle ABC = \dfrac 12 \times BC \times \dfrac {BC}2 \times \tan (2\theta) = \dfrac {25}4 \times \dfrac {2\tan \theta}{1-\tan^2 \theta} = \dfrac {25}4 \times \dfrac {24}7 = \dfrac {150}7 . Therefore a + b = 150 + 7 = 157 a+b = 150 + 7 = \boxed{157} .

Nibedan Mukherjee
Jan 18, 2020

It seems to me that your are assuming that the line G G GG' through G G parallel to E C EC is tangential to the two incircles. In other words, you are assuming that B D = 4 BD = 4 , rather than proving it...

Mark Hennings - 1 year, 4 months ago
Mark Hennings
Jan 14, 2020

The (3,4,5) triangle notoriously has inradius 1 1 .

Suppose that triangles D C B DCB and D E B DEB are both (3,4,5) triangles. It is a bit of easy trigonometry to deduce that B A = C A = 125 14 BA = CA = \tfrac{125}{14} , and that A E = 55 14 AE = \tfrac{55}{14} . Thus triangle A E C AEC has semiperimeter 66 7 \tfrac{66}{7} .

On the other hand triangle A B C ABC has area 150 7 \tfrac{150}{7} , so that A E C AEC has area 66 7 \tfrac{66}{7} . Thus A E C AEC also has inradius 1 1 , which means that these are the correct dimensions for this sangaku. Thus the desired answer is 150 + 7 = 157 150 + 7 = \boxed{157} .


For a more analytic solution, suppose that the smaller acute angle in D B C DBC is α \alpha , so that D B C = D B E = α \angle DBC = \angle DBE = \alpha . Suppose also that B C = B E = R BC = BE = R . Then triangle B D C BDC has area 1 2 R 2 sin α cos α = 1 4 R 2 sin 2 α \tfrac12R^2\sin\alpha\cos\alpha= \tfrac14R^2\sin2\alpha and semiperimeter 1 2 R ( 1 + sin α cos α \tfrac12R(1+\sin\alpha\cos\alpha , and hence both D B C DBC and D B E DBE have inradius r 0 = R sin 2 α 2 ( 1 + sin α + cos α ) r_0 \; = \; \frac{R\sin2\alpha}{2(1 + \sin\alpha + \cos\alpha)} On the other hand A B + A C = 1 2 R sec 2 α AB + AC = \tfrac12R\sec2\alpha , so that A E = 1 2 R ( sec 2 α 2 ) AE = \tfrac12R(\sec2\alpha - 2) . Also A B C ABC has area 1 4 R 2 tan 2 α \tfrac14R^2\tan2\alpha , and hence A E C AEC has area 1 4 R 2 ( tan 2 α 2 sin 2 α ) \tfrac14R^2(\tan2\alpha - 2\sin2\alpha) . Moreover A E C AEC has semiperimeter 1 2 R ( sec 2 α 1 + 2 sin α ) \tfrac12R(\sec2\alpha - 1 + 2\sin\alpha) , and hence A E C AEC has inradius r 1 = R 2 sin 2 α ( 1 2 cos 2 α ) 2 ( 1 cos 2 α + 2 sin α cos 2 α ) r_1 \; = \; \frac{R^2\sin2\alpha(1 - 2\cos2\alpha)}{2(1 - \cos2\alpha + 2\sin\alpha\cos2\alpha)} Since r 0 = r 1 r_0=r_1 we deduce that 1 cos 2 α + 2 sin α cos 2 α = ( 1 2 cos 2 α ) ( 1 + sin α + cos α ) ( 4 cos 2 α 1 ) sin α = ( 1 2 cos 2 α ) ( 1 + cos α ) + cos 2 α 1 \begin{aligned} 1 - \cos2\alpha + 2\sin\alpha\cos2\alpha & = \; (1 - 2\cos2\alpha)(1 + \sin\alpha + \cos\alpha) \\ (4\cos2\alpha - 1)\sin\alpha & = \; (1 - 2\cos2\alpha)(1 + \cos\alpha) + \cos2\alpha - 1 \end{aligned} Thus ( 4 cos 2 α 1 ) 2 cos 2 α + [ ( 1 2 cos 2 α ) ( 1 + cos α ) + cos 2 α 1 ] 2 = ( 4 cos 2 α 1 ) 2 (4\cos2\alpha - 1)^2\cos^2\alpha + \big[(1 - 2\cos2\alpha)(1 + \cos\alpha) + \cos2\alpha - 1\big]^2 \; = \; (4\cos2\alpha - 1)^2 which leads us to the sextic equation 80 cos 6 α + 16 cos 5 α 164 cos 4 α 12 cos 3 α + 114 cos 2 α 24 = 0 2 ( 4 cos 2 α 3 ) ( 2 cos 2 α 1 ) ( 5 cos α 4 ) ( cos α + 1 ) = 0 \begin{aligned} 80\cos^6\alpha + 16\cos^5\alpha - 164\cos^4\alpha - 12\cos^3\alpha + 114\cos^2\alpha - 24 & = \; 0 \\ 2(4\cos^2\alpha - 3)(2\cos^2\alpha - 1)(5\cos\alpha - 4)(\cos\alpha + 1) & = \; 0 \end{aligned} Since α \alpha is acute, we see that either cos α = 1 2 3 \cos\alpha = \tfrac12\sqrt{3} or cos α = 1 2 \cos\alpha = \tfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}} or cos α = 4 5 \cos\alpha = \tfrac45 . However, in the first case we must have α = 3 0 \alpha = 30^\circ and the above equation relating sin α \sin\alpha and cos α \cos\alpha would imply that sin α = 1 2 \sin\alpha = -\tfrac12 , which is impossible. Similarly, in the second case we would have to have α = 4 5 \alpha = 45^\circ , and the above equation would again tell us that sin α \sin\alpha had to be negative. Thus the only possiblility is that cos α = 4 5 \cos\alpha = \tfrac45 , and so the (3,4,5) solution is the only one.

Let's see how many others have a hunch as good as yours.

Michael Mendrin - 1 year, 4 months ago

I'm going to remember that the inradius of the 3-4-5 is 1. Now as for the circumradius....

Razzi Masroor - 1 year, 4 months ago

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The circumradius is 5 2 \tfrac52 , since the hypotenuse is a diameter.

Mark Hennings - 1 year, 4 months ago

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Thats the joke

Razzi Masroor - 1 year, 4 months ago

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@Razzi Masroor Don’t give up the day job.

Mark Hennings - 1 year, 4 months ago

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@Mark Hennings I actually knew that the perimeter was double the area( as a neat fact) though I honestly didn't consider that this makes the inradius 1.

Razzi Masroor - 1 year, 4 months ago

Niranjan Khanderia - 1 year, 3 months ago
Vinod Kumar
Apr 16, 2020

Write expressions of radius of inscribed circle for right triangle and general upper triangle in term of sides. Further, sum the areas of two right and one general triangle to large isosceles triangle. Solve the system of equations with WolframAlpha to get base of isosceles triangle as 5 and other two sides equal to 5+(55/14) each.

Area=(150/7)

Answer=157

Zaid Ahmed
Jan 26, 2020

Lots of good solutions here.

I found the best way for me to visualise the problem was to make the line EDC horizontal with the circles below ED and DC fixed. Let's call the circle below ED '1' and the circle below DC '2'.

Then imagine the third inscribed circle as a boulder being pushed along the EDC line. Because the other two circles are fixed the location of the third circle (or boulder) determines the length of AB and AC and ED and DC. With the midpoints of circle 1 and circle 2 fixed therefore the line connecting the midpoint of circle 1 to the midpoint of the boulder is parallel to the line AB. And with the information provided we can use trigonometry to work out the various angles and lengths and where the boulder needs to be located so that ABC is isosceles.

And knowledge that a 345 triangle has an inscribed circle of radius 1 is helpful (yet can lead to a miscalculation due to complacency :)) but not necessary for those without knowledge and the above is one way of looking at the problem.

Zaid Ahmed - 1 year, 4 months ago

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