Archimedean Twins

Geometry Level 3

In the figure there are three semicircles of diameters A B AB , A C AC , B C BC and two circles S 1 S_{1} and S 2 S_{2} which are touching to the line C F CF ( C F CF is perpendicular to A B AB ). Both circles have same radius and are called Archimedean Twins. Now if A B = 10 AB = 10 , A C = 6 AC = 6 and B C = 4 BC = 4 then find the radius of circle S 1 S_{1} .


The answer is 1.2.

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Centers are, M for pink, O for blue, P for outer. T is the foot of the perpendicular line. M T = 3. P T = 1. r is the radius of the blue circle, ON is the perpendicular from O on AB, the diameter of the outer circle. S o N T = r . a n d N P = r 1 . ( 1 ) , M N = M T r = 3 r . . ( 2 ) Distance between centers are O M = 3 + r , O P = 5 r . . . . . . . ( 3 ) F r o m ( 3 ) , ( 1 ) I n O N P , O N 2 = O P 2 N P 2 = ( 5 r ) 2 ( r 1 ) 2 F r o m ( 3 ) ( 2 ) I n O M N , O N 2 = O M 2 M N 2 = ( 3 + r ) 2 ( 3 r ) 2 ( 5 r ) 2 ( r 1 ) 2 = ( 3 + r ) 2 ( 3 r ) 2 . S o l v i n g r = 1.2 \text{ Centers are, M for pink, O for blue, P for outer.} \\ \text{ T is the foot of the perpendicular line.} ~~~~~~~~ MT = 3. ~~~~~~~~ PT=1. \\ \text{ r is the radius of the blue circle, ON is the perpendicular from O} \\ \text{on AB, the diameter of the outer circle. } \\ So ~NT = r. ~~~~and~NP=r - 1….(1),~~~~~MN = MT - r= 3 - r..(2)\\ \text {Distance between centers are } ~~~OM=3+r, ~~~ OP=5-r.......(3)\\ From~(3),(1)~~In~\triangle ONP, ON^2 = OP^2 - NP^2= (5-r)^2 -(r-1)^2\\ From (3)(2)In~\triangle OMN, ON^2 = OM^2 -MN^2=~(3+r)^2 - (3-r)^2\\ \therefore (5-r)^2 - (r-1)^2=~(3+r)^2 - (3-r)^2.\\Solving~r = ~~~\boxed{\Large 1.2}

Beautiful solution! Sir, I have uploaded an image with your point labels. Just append ![Imgur] on left of this and insert in your solution (https://i.imgur.com/hDMuZKb.png)

Ujjwal Rane - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Thanks a lot, Ujjwal. How do you do it. We can come to the same conclusion if the right side semicircle is used. That is better since we do not have N and P so near.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 4 months ago

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My pleasure sir! I used the CAD software - MicroStation - to create that. As for the problem, out of curiosity I solved it symbolically, taking outer circle R, inner circles r1, r2 and the Archimedian circle as r. Did the derivation pretty much like you did and the result was r = r 1 r 2 R r = \frac{r_{1}r_{2}}{R}

Ujjwal Rane - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Ujjwal Rane Yes. This is the formula given for Archimedean circle . You may give the proof so that others can know. That is what I have requested Rifath Rahman.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Niranjan Khanderia Yes, in fact i was in the process of writing it. Only not sure if I should post it as a response to this question or a separate Note. Probably a Note could reach more users?

Ujjwal Rane - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Ujjwal Rane I agree. Note would better serve our purpose.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Niranjan Khanderia Posted a note on Proof of expression for radius of Archimedes's twin circles

Sir, could you please review and give your suggestions?

Ujjwal Rane - 6 years, 4 months ago

Can you tell me how you know N is to the left of P? why can't it be to the right of P? thanks!!!

Willia Chang - 4 years, 11 months ago

where r is the radius of the circle.

awesome way to solve the prob.

Nasif Em - 6 years, 4 months ago

I too was thinking of giving alternate solution from the right side. Can you please give how you generated the file you have down loaded ? I am not able to get this size from M.S. Accessories-Paint. Thanks.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 4 months ago

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I have used a drawing software named Edraw. Which is a very good multi designing software. I will suggest you to use it.

nibedan mukherjee - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Thank you. I will try.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 4 months ago
Rifath Rahman
Feb 2, 2015

Let a=AC=diameter of first inner semi-circle,b=diameter of second inner semi-circle and diameter of Arcimedean circle be d,we know that d={(ab)/(a+b)}={(6 *4)/(6+4)}=24/10=2.4,so radius of Archimedean circle is 2.4/2=1.2

It is much better than mine. We can use Archimedean circle formula dirctly as you have done. But a proof would be welcome.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Actually it came from the way you did it,you can see it in detail in wikipedia,search Archimedian twin circle

Rifath Rahman - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Thanks. I did see it before I wrote my comment. I thought it would help others.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Niranjan Khanderia Welcome,nice thinking

Rifath Rahman - 6 years, 4 months ago

The radius r r of Archimedean twin circles inscribed by three semicircles of radii a a , b b & a + b a+b & having shared diameter, is given by the general formula

r = a b a + b \boxed {r=\frac{ab}{a+b}}

As per given question, setting a = 3 a=3 & b = 2 b=2 in above general formula , radius of twin circles

r = 3 2 3 + 2 = 6 5 = 1.2 r=\frac{3\cdot 2}{3+2}=\frac65=1.2

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