Let A B C D be a quadrilateral in which A B ∥ C D and ⊥ to A D and A B = 3 C D And the area of quadrilateral is 4 .If a circle can be drawn touching all the sides of the quadrilateral,find its radius
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The problem states that AB= 3CD.
In your solution you let AB = x and you say CD = 3x.
Therefore by your reasoning you are concluding that x = 9x.
Can you explain this?
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Oh no Guiseppi Butel! My fault. In my notebook, I mislabelled the diagram. All pertinent corrections have been made. Do have a look.
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Your statement 4
"A final note is the observation y = 2r, r being the in radius." is not true.
I challenge you to draw this diagram!
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@Guiseppi Butel – Do challenge this simple fact (diagram or whatever): " A circle touching two distinct parallel lines must have diameter equal to the distance between the two lines" The incircle must touch AB and CD (parallel segments) so, by the above fact y=2r is guaranteed. I post a picture.
Yeas it appeared in RMO 2006
I too did in this way
I miss the problem because of calculation mistake. But it has a different approach so giving it below.
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i didnot get how did u take ad perpendicular to dc... plz explain
Let C D = a and the radius of the circle be r , then the area of the quadrilateral is:
A = 2 r ˙ 2 a + 3 a = 4 a r = 4 ⇒ a = r 1
Now let ∠ A B C = θ , then tan θ = 2 a 2 r = a r = r 2
We note that: tan 2 θ = 3 a − r r = 3 − r 2 r 2 .
Since tan θ = 1 − tan 2 2 θ 2 tan 2 θ ⇒ r 2 = 1 − ( 3 − r 2 r 2 ) 2 3 − r 2 2 r 2
⇒ 1 − ( 3 − r 2 r 2 ) 2 = 3 − r 2 2 ⇒ ( 3 − r 2 ) 2 − r 4 = 2 ( 3 − r 2 )
⇒ 9 − 6 r 2 + r 4 − r 4 = 6 − 2 r 2 ⇒ 4 r 2 = 3 ⇒ r = 2 3
Shouldn't it be tan θ = 3 a 2 r and not 2 a 2 r as you claim ?
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It should be tan θ = 2 a 2 r . See the diagram postd by Aditya Kumar. He used x instead of a .
Well, this is how I solved it without any trigonometry.
Let CD be x and AD be y.
We will construct CE parallel AD. Now, CEAD is a rectangle and hence, area of rectangle CEAD = x y
Area of BEC = 2 1 × 2 x × y
a r ( B E C ) + a r ( C E A D ) = a r ( A B C D )
2 1 × 2 x × y + x y = 4
x y = 2 , y = x 2
In BEC, using Pythagoras Theorem,
x 2 2 + 4 x 2 = B C
As there can be an incircle,
AB + CD = AD + BC
4 x = x 2 + x 2 1 + x 4
2 x 2 − 1 = 1 + x 4
4 x 4 + 1 − 4 x 2 = 1 + x 4
x 2 = 3 4
x = 3 2
Also, A r e a = r s
4 = r ( 2 8 x )
r = 2 3 ≈ 0 . 8 6 6
this question is from crmo 2006! answer is 3^(1/2)/2
let CD=x ; and radius be r join centre of circle O to C and B which will be the angle bisectors; draw perpendicular from O to CD and AB since /CBA+/BCD=180 it implies sum of /OCD and /OBA IS 90 ; from eqating area we will get rx=1 .............i
now tanOCD=r/x-r and tanOBA=r/3x-r since /OCD+/OBA=90; it implies tanOCD×tanOBA=1......ii
solving both eqation r can be found
With that radius the circle touches only 3 of the 4 sides.
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since i m saying that joining centre of circle to B and C will be angle bisector it implies that it will touch fourth side also
there is not any incorrectness in this question think calmly
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@Guiseppi Butel – Such a trapezium exists. You can do the calculations that if it has a height of 3 , and base lengths of 3 2 3 and 2 3 , then the last side will have length of 3 5 3 . You can set up the coordinate geom, to show that there is a circle with radius 2 3 that is tangential to all 4 sides.
We have the following theorem (proof not provided):
The sum of opposite sides of a convex quadrilaterial are equal if and only if we can have a circle that is inscribed within.
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@Calvin Lin – I finally agree. My disputes were with two different statements provided in the solutions given; one that gave a conclusion that resulted in x = 9x, and a statement that " that joining centre of circle to B and C will be angle bisector it implies that it will touch fourth side also"
Here is my solution:
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@Guiseppi Butel – Right. I agree that there is no substantiation in the solution which explain why such a geometric configuration must occur. Assuming that a solution exists, that must be the solution. For completeness, it is good practice to check that such a configuration actually exists, i.e. that the solution is indeed valid.
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@Calvin Lin – in my solution i use rx=1 which shows circle is touching the parallel sides i use tanOCD=r/r-x which shows it touches perpendicular side and the angle bisector thing which shows it touches slant side also
there is no incompleteness in the solution!
@Guiseppi Butel – You have not got the correct trapezium...how can you expect the poor incircle to fit in?! I can easily see the flaw. Had you taken: A D = 3 , A B = 2 3 , C D = 3 2 then you would have gotten it.
I can see clearly your A B is less than double of A D , when a double is expected.
Do go through my construction algorithm posted.
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Let E on A B be such that C E ⊥ A B . Take A B = 3 x and A D = y .
Area of quadrilateral = 2 x y
C D = x . So, using Pitot's Theorem for tangential quadrilaterals, B C = 4 x − y . Also note that C E = y and E B = 2 x .
Apply Pythagoras' theorem on triangle BEC and then : y 2 + ( 2 x ) 2 = ( 4 x − y ) 2
implying, on solving: 3 x = 2 y or x = 3 2 y So, area of quadrilateral = 2 x y = 3 4 y 2 = 4 ,
yielding y = 3
A final note is the observation : y = 2 r , r being the inradius.
Thus r = 2 3
Although, I am sure I h a v e seen this problem before elsewhere!